I’ve noticed a crystal rolling pattern and why it’s rigged

I tried rolling at least 40 of these the champion crystals over the last 2 days or so to see what happens.

I’ve noticed that 35/40 roughly were 3 stars which isn’t surprising, but I noticed that in 30/40 cases after the roll, the champ to the right of the 3* I got was a 5*

Odd isn’t it. I think it’s Kabams physiological way of saying to us. You are close. Roll again.

Comments

CoatHang3r

Yawn, do your research, your full of it and bloated like your opinion. YouTube is full of actual verifiable crystal openings (unlike your unverifiable opinion) of fmgcs verifying the OP’s finding. You’d have to be willfully blind to not see it. In fact it’s so bloated there isn’t even a need to catalog it.

I don’t consider uniformed opinion as a valid argument.

GroundedWisdom

Make a wheel with 10 colors. Include your favorite color. Spin the wheel. Notice what color you count more than the others.

CoatHang3r

What? Watch a couple fmgc openings rather than relying on what you think. Honestly, At this point I doubt you even know what you’re aguing against and for.

GroundedWisdom

This is getting nowhere. You're not even hearing what I'm saying because "YouTube says so.". The reel is not rigged to land next to what you want. It doesn't happen all the time, and I doubt very highly they have some kind of deceptive RNG reel to disguise the actual RNG, which pops up a certain amount of time and intices people. We're going to have to disagree on this one. It's just conspiracy. That's my opinion.

CoatHang3r

Uh come off it this isn’t an idea this is a verifiable fact, that’s not a conspiracy. It’s not YouTube its people spinning crystals on Kabam’s servers on real time, not some edited and doctored storyline.

Yeah you disagree with water being wet and that’s your opinion, great you’re still wrong and willfully blind.

Jaffacaked

It's simple psychology to appeal to gambler to spend more thinking I was so close to s great champ, next spin I will get it.

We all know websnatcher is no uncollected so can't open fgmc, again another worthless opinion based on nothing except his delusions of grandeur

Hamin

My own anecdotal experience will confirm that near misses are many times 4/5*s; but, as aforementioned, it's moot because my RNG was already determined.

It's an animation to get people to spend more. There isn't anything wrong with this. It makes good business sense.

There's no conspiracy. Nothing is rigged. All you're seeing is a carrot on a string.

Kabam Spice

Hey All,

It is fine to have a difference of opinion, but a few posts have started to lean towards insults. Let's remember to keep things constructive. If you're interested in participating in the discussion, keep it focused on the spirit and intent behind the activity.

Hamin

Kabam Spice wrote: »

Hey All,

It is fine to have a difference of opinion, but a few posts have started to lean towards insults. Let's remember to keep things constructive. If you're interested in participating in the discussion, keep it focused on the spirit and intent behind the activity.

Thanks for letting us actually have a discussion and not closing the thread.

MrMaat

Ahitlaw wrote: »

The only pattern I've noticed is within the entire alliance and myself. Whenever a champion is n the arena there's a higher chance of pulling that champion.

simply because that is when more and more people buy more and more featured crystals trying to get particular champs.
it is not so much of an increased drop rate as ans exploded sample size.

normally 10 crystals get opened.
noone gets anything good.
Good champ in arena peeps buy 1000 featured crystals. of course there will be more peeps getting them.

Ahitlaw

MrMaat wrote: »

Ahitlaw wrote: »

The only pattern I've noticed is within the entire alliance and myself. Whenever a champion is n the arena there's a higher chance of pulling that champion.

simply because that is when more and more people buy more and more featured crystals trying to get particular champs.
it is not so much of an increased drop rate as ans exploded sample size.

normally 10 crystals get opened.
noone gets anything good.
Good champ in arena peeps buy 1000 featured crystals. of course there will be more peeps getting them.

No, these drops are from basic crystals. I've pulled many that were n arena when they were in arena and almost every new champ in the arena someone in the ally will pull them. From basics, not featured.

New_Noob168

You guys aren't understanding the point here... My point is when you roll and when 87.5% of the time, the champ to the right is a 5*, i think there is a problem with the way their system works.

And I did get 1 5* so there you go out of the 5 and the other 4 were 4*.... And yes, I know it's just for looks, but the fact that Kabam teases you with this, just shows you how bad they are. Seriously, it's like saying...you got real close, try again.

Hamin

New_Noob168 wrote: »

You guys aren't understanding the point here... My point is when you roll and when 87.5% of the time, the champ to the right is a 5*, i think there is a problem with the way their system works.

And I did get 1 5* so there you go out of the 5 and the other 4 were 4*.... And yes, I know it's just for looks, but the fact that Kabam teases you with this, just shows you how bad they are. Seriously, it's like saying...you got real close, try again.

So Pokemon cards are bad because on the pack it shows a rare card you could get. But, since you didn't... Buy another pack!

Do you understand how ridiculous you sound?

New_Noob168

Hamin wrote: »

New_Noob168 wrote: »

You guys aren't understanding the point here... My point is when you roll and when 87.5% of the time, the champ to the right is a 5*, i think there is a problem with the way their system works.

And I did get 1 5* so there you go out of the 5 and the other 4 were 4*.... And yes, I know it's just for looks, but the fact that Kabam teases you with this, just shows you how bad they are. Seriously, it's like saying...you got real close, try again.

So Pokemon cards are bad because on the pack it shows a rare card you could get. But, since you didn't... Buy another pack!

Do you understand how ridiculous you sound?

You are so dumb.. and you missed the point......go play your pokemon cards

Hamin

New_Noob168 wrote: »

Hamin wrote: »

New_Noob168 wrote: »

You guys aren't understanding the point here... My point is when you roll and when 87.5% of the time, the champ to the right is a 5*, i think there is a problem with the way their system works.

And I did get 1 5* so there you go out of the 5 and the other 4 were 4*.... And yes, I know it's just for looks, but the fact that Kabam teases you with this, just shows you how bad they are. Seriously, it's like saying...you got real close, try again.

So Pokemon cards are bad because on the pack it shows a rare card you could get. But, since you didn't... Buy another pack!

Do you understand how ridiculous you sound?

You are so dumb.. and you missed the point......go play your pokemon cards

Besides ad homs, do you have an actual counter to the argument? How am I dumb?

GroundedWisdom

You think they do that intentionally to tease people. I disagree. Let's look past that. If you know it has nothing to do with the outcome, why does it bother you?

RichiesDad79

The champ you get is determined when the crystal comes out from the side and goes to where it sits until you drag it into the spinner. Whether you spin it or pop it, the result is the same. I believe you can change what you are going to get by leaving and then coming back. There is no way of knowing what you will actually get, or changing the outcome, other than what I just described.

RagamugginGunner

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This is getting nowhere. You're not even hearing what I'm saying because "YouTube says so.". The reel is not rigged to land next to what you want. It doesn't happen all the time, and I doubt very highly they have some kind of deceptive RNG reel to disguise the actual RNG, which pops up a certain amount of time and intices people. We're going to have to disagree on this one. It's just conspiracy. That's my opinion.

Wrong.

Seriously, google slot machines. It's pretty standard practice to show top prizes as |near misses" to get people to spend more.

GroundedWisdom

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This is getting nowhere. You're not even hearing what I'm saying because "YouTube says so.". The reel is not rigged to land next to what you want. It doesn't happen all the time, and I doubt very highly they have some kind of deceptive RNG reel to disguise the actual RNG, which pops up a certain amount of time and intices people. We're going to have to disagree on this one. It's just conspiracy. That's my opinion.

Wrong.

Seriously, google slot machines. It's pretty standard practice to show top prizes as |near misses" to get people to spend more.

It's not a Slot Machine. It's not even Gambling.

Whododo872

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This is getting nowhere. You're not even hearing what I'm saying because "YouTube says so.". The reel is not rigged to land next to what you want. It doesn't happen all the time, and I doubt very highly they have some kind of deceptive RNG reel to disguise the actual RNG, which pops up a certain amount of time and intices people. We're going to have to disagree on this one. It's just conspiracy. That's my opinion.

Wrong.

Seriously, google slot machines. It's pretty standard practice to show top prizes as |near misses" to get people to spend more.

It's not a Slot Machine. It's not even Gambling.

I disagree with that. Spending money at a chance to get something desirable, whatever that chance may be, is indeed a gamble

New_Noob168

Yes. we know the percentages.... The issue I have is why show lies in the spin... If 100 champs pass by in the spin, shouldn't it show only 1 5*, I see like probably 1/3 or 40% 5* spinning around...then, like I said, what are the chances ...lands right next to a 5* on the right? 90% of the time? lol point is, spins and what you see are not reflective of reality..it should be.

GroundedWisdom

Whododo872 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This is getting nowhere. You're not even hearing what I'm saying because "YouTube says so.". The reel is not rigged to land next to what you want. It doesn't happen all the time, and I doubt very highly they have some kind of deceptive RNG reel to disguise the actual RNG, which pops up a certain amount of time and intices people. We're going to have to disagree on this one. It's just conspiracy. That's my opinion.

Wrong.

Seriously, google slot machines. It's pretty standard practice to show top prizes as |near misses" to get people to spend more.

It's not a Slot Machine. It's not even Gambling.

I disagree with that. Spending money at a chance to get something desirable, whatever that chance may be, is indeed a gamble

Taking a gamble at something, perhaps. It's not Gambling. Not in the Legal sense. In this case, we don't get anything out of it. Once we spend, there's no return.

GroundedWisdom

New_Noob168 wrote: »

Yes. we know the percentages.... The issue I have is why show lies in the spin... If 100 champs pass by in the spin, shouldn't it show only 1 5*, I see like probably 1/3 or 40% 5* spinning around...then, like I said, what are the chances ...lands right next to a 5* on the right? 90% of the time? lol point is, spins and what you see are not reflective of reality..it should be.

No, it shouldn't be. It's not meant to be a reflection of the drop rates. There isn't even enough passes to reflect that, as far as I can see. It doesn't matter. The rates are posted, they've been upfront about the reel being a visual effect, and we're aware of this. I think it's being way too overanalyzed.

New_Noob168

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

No, it shouldn't be. It's not meant to be a reflection of the drop rates. There isn't even enough passes to reflect that, as far as I can see. It doesn't matter. The rates are posted, they've been upfront about the reel being a visual effect, and we're aware of this. I think it's being way too overanalyzed.

Can you honestly say what you see spinning around is reflective of drop rates. I can honestly say no. I see lots more 5* spinning around than the less than 1% reality

GroundedWisdom

New_Noob168 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

No, it shouldn't be. It's not meant to be a reflection of the drop rates. There isn't even enough passes to reflect that, as far as I can see. It doesn't matter. The rates are posted, they've been upfront about the reel being a visual effect, and we're aware of this. I think it's being way too overanalyzed.

Can you honestly say what you see spinning around is reflective of drop rates. I can honestly say no. I see lots more 5* spinning around than the less than 1% reality

No I can't. I just said it's not supposed to. The reel is not a reflection of the rates. It's just a mix of some of the things you could win. The rates are posted. There's no real need for it to reflect in the reel. What you're suggesting would result in nothing but 3*s spinning by.

Rap

The sage doesn't work! I tried it!

Rap

It got rid of my poltergeists but i still cracked 2s!

RagamugginGunner

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This is getting nowhere. You're not even hearing what I'm saying because "YouTube says so.". The reel is not rigged to land next to what you want. It doesn't happen all the time, and I doubt very highly they have some kind of deceptive RNG reel to disguise the actual RNG, which pops up a certain amount of time and intices people. We're going to have to disagree on this one. It's just conspiracy. That's my opinion.

Wrong.

Seriously, google slot machines. It's pretty standard practice to show top prizes as |near misses" to get people to spend more.

It's not a Slot Machine. It's not even Gambling.

Wrong.

GroundedWisdom

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

This is getting nowhere. You're not even hearing what I'm saying because "YouTube says so.". The reel is not rigged to land next to what you want. It doesn't happen all the time, and I doubt very highly they have some kind of deceptive RNG reel to disguise the actual RNG, which pops up a certain amount of time and intices people. We're going to have to disagree on this one. It's just conspiracy. That's my opinion.

Wrong.

Seriously, google slot machines. It's pretty standard practice to show top prizes as |near misses" to get people to spend more.

It's not a Slot Machine. It's not even Gambling.

Wrong.

Sorry you disagree, but there's no payout involved.

DarthPhal

If the “almost got a 5*” illusion is too overwhelming, you could just open crystals instead of spinning.