**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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You need war rating to bootstrap the process, otherwise tier 1 alliances will be matching against tier 18 alliances randomly in round one.
This: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/741678/#Comment_741678 is my version of this idea.
It is a piece of a larger idea I've tossed around periodically since maybe season three or four: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/665551/#Comment_665551.
forced to tank???
really???
someone held a gun to ur head and told you they would shoot u if you didnt tank???
you need to play lower alliance than where you currently sit to get the rewards you are supposed to get????
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that makes no sense.
to ge tthe rewards you are supposed to get you will compete in the competition in a fair manner that the competition is designed to be played in. and you will be able to beat some alliances and lose to some others around you.
you will get the rewards you are supposed to get by playing wars as you are supposed to.
you are manipulating the system to your advantage to also manipulate the rewards you will obtain.
if you cant fight alliances why MMXIV and NYCC then you understand why they are at the top and deserve to be there.
with an attitude like this you dont deserve to be there with them
That makes no sense whatsoever for starting a new alliance
If these are problems. They are smaller ones than what we have currently.
Why should alliances be allowed to improve their ratings during the normal 1 week offseason? Most are saving items when the matches count. Just like games out of season in other leagues. Makes most sense to improve your rating only during in season matches.
If players are unproven they can move up step by step by joining gold/platinum alliances to improve their rating. Currently you need have proven experience to join higher ranked alliances in the form of references and videos of previous AW experience. A personal war rating may even help recruitment in verifying the necessary skill/experience.
As far as I'm aware, most rating manipulations don't seek to drop rating by a lot, just enough so that the rewards and multiplier are still the same but the competition is weaker. This sounds like it could itself be manipulated into lowering rating by exactly the amount desired by just sitting out a few wars in the off season. Then you wouldn't even need shells anymore.
So you're now admitting that your suggestion does in fact harm alliances, just alliances you don't mind harming.
remove/reduce the win bonus.
that way a loss in t2 will still net more points than a win in t3.
add a bonus for when you beat an alliance with a higher WR.
that way there is an incentive to beat stronger alliances instead of facing lower ones.
How does it ‘harm’ anyone?
A new alliance has 0 rating in the current system. Each week you can reasonably gain 150 rating. One week offseason freeze won’t matter much much.
Not really bc they'd be losing rating for an entire season instead of holding a war rating while in a shell and then being able to reduce the previous rating during the next offseason.
If an alliance started dropping rating after 3 missed wars that's essentially 9 losses during the season. That's FAR more than anyone wants to tank
If you force matching to maintain rating, then it's pretty much 12 losses in a season let alone 9.
It doesn't matter much to you but I'm sure it does to them.
Freezing ratings just does more harm than good. Making alliance prestige more important in matching would do more for equal matches than trying to deal with tanking itself.
I wish my current and last few alliances didn't tank to some extent in offseason but as group that was decided. I don't agree with or like it but it's still a legitimate strategy and I don't personally think it makes much of a beneficial difference from what I've seen
An alliance can not enlist the first war of the season and drop back a tier. The next week or two, they’ll face “easier” alliances and be right where they started at the beginning of the season with a week left to use items to push for a higher tier.
My point is there are plenty of ways to strategize within the terms of service.
by the time it shows up it ends up buried under alot of other posts.
so annoying.
(which is why i am quoting myself here)
https://www.learning-mind.com/sandbagging-tactic/
“Sandbagging is used in competitive sports, careers and even social situations. It’s a form of manipulation used to gain the upper hand, and it’s subtly devious.
I became familiar with sandbagging some years ago. This form of manipulation is unlike any other tactic used by narcissists and toxic individuals. In fact, this act of dominance is seen in the ranks of reputable people, just the same as what you might call the “low-life”. It’s used as a normal way to gain control of any given situation.
Sandbagging is a marked characteristic of high and low Machs (Machiavellians). Nicollo Machiavelli, author of The Prince, in 1513, brought the act of sandbagging into the light. In his book, he promotes the idea of rising in pollical power, to eliminating those who would deem to be stronger, thus, gaining in strength among the weak, using all possible means.”
Your logic contradicts itself. You’re saying no one is forcing an alliance to tank, which is true. On the other hand, who is forcing alliances to spend to maintain their AW level/rating (to keep facing MMXIV and NYCC)??
he doesnt say it is in TOS.
but that does not mean it is not a form of cheating.
it is by definition MANIPULATION.
manipulating the system to gain an unfair advantage is cheating.
even if you want to argue it is not against the rules,
it is clearly unsportsman like behavior and against the spirit of the contest.
I haven’t said it’s not a form of cheating/manipulation. I’m pointing out that alliances are still in the right to do this tactic since it doesn’t violate TOS.
In other words, it might not be ethical but it’s not illegal so how can kabam hand out punishment?
nothing at all contradicts anything.
noone is forcing anyone to do anything.
these are all choices one makes because they want a particular result.
My alliance is happy with t6 wars cus it is not to hard, does not require spending to maintain and the rewards of gold1 are enough for us to be happy with
that is infact good sportsmanship.
but they do not intentionally lose.
they put in less effort but still try and win.
each player on the field still puts in maximum effort.
it is a coaching descsion to try new things.
this would be akin to an alliance trying out different defence and different attack teams.
i understand kabam may not be able to hand out punishment.
but as it is against the spirit of the game they could and should,
and infact are looking at ways to prevent it happening in the future.