Seatin's double-Cyclops video....

gannicus0830

Further proof that Kabam is either grossly out of touch with the community, enjoys pissing us off, or both.

https://youtu.be/H_A5LjCbPWk

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chunkyb

Cyclops level youtuber doing Cyclops video is some inception style stuff imo

Hmmm, might be giving too much credit

Tasty_Yum_Yums

MaatMan wrote: »

in all seriousness cyclops is far from the most useless champ out there.
maybe HB or Colossus get that trophy.

Cyclops is useful. He just pales in comparison to other options.
My partner has a r3 Cyclops blue team and uses him all the time in her questing team with much more success than one would use a HulkBuster.

not trying to say he is amazingly great,
but he can get the job done,
and is better than alot of others.

for those haters and ones who dont believe my opinion but instead listen to the word of a youtuber rather than form their own opinion.
even Seatin ranks atleast 19 champs below cyclops.

In what monthly event quest or game mode is cyclops a top 50 option? Maybe Variant chapter 1 because there aren’t 50 mutant champs, but point is he’s got little to no utility and offers no type of advantage over 85% of the champs. Where does he shine? AW attack, defense, monthly quest, end game content.... none of the above.

Each champ doesn’t have to be the best in a certain game mode, but they need to bring something to the table other than arena points. And we certainly don’t need two variations of a champ which do the same thing. Where’s the roster diversity in that?

XxLoganTDCxX

Cyclops (90's) looks like a can of WD-40.
Red Cyclops is effective but looks constipated

G0311

I agree , one 6* Cyclops is enough. As a show of good will to the players , Kabam should remove one or buff both of them.

VanillaCoke

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Don't knock my boy Cyclops...

Can you 5/65 him and show us that sweet effectiveness in AW (Plat 1 or above) and map 7 please? 😁😂

ThatGrootGroot

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Losspik

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Well considering Youtube is his job, as a business owner I will say that you have to put some profits back into your business to keep it growing this is all he is doing. self serving? but of wouldnt you do the same if it meant you earned a salary end of the month.

On the Cyclopsgate I say remove 1 and add in another average Mutant theres plenty of them

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ThatGrootGroot

Losspik wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Well considering Youtube is his job, as a business owner I will say that you have to put some profits back into your business to keep it growing this is all he is doing. self serving? but of wouldnt you do the same if it meant you earned a salary end of the month.

On the Cyclopsgate I say remove 1 and add in another average Mutant theres plenty of them

What I meant to say is that he'll talk out of both sides of his mouth. He'll sh!t on Kabam in one sentence, and then in the next he'll praise the game and spend money instead of taking a real stand. Too many people blindly follow what the guy says.

BigPoppaCBONE

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

ThatGrootGroot

BigPoppaCBONE wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

That's not at all what I said. Nice try. About what I'd expect from someone with a name like that. I don't watch Seatin anymore. I stopped a long time ago because he's quick to go from criticizing Kabam to spending on Featured crystals just for views. He could actually be a voice for the playerbase and push for real change, but doesn't actually take a real stand.

MaatMan

Tasty_Yum_Yums wrote: »

MaatMan wrote: »

in all seriousness cyclops is far from the most useless champ out there.
maybe HB or Colossus get that trophy.

Cyclops is useful. He just pales in comparison to other options.
My partner has a r3 Cyclops blue team and uses him all the time in her questing team with much more success than one would use a HulkBuster.

not trying to say he is amazingly great,
but he can get the job done,
and is better than alot of others.

for those haters and ones who dont believe my opinion but instead listen to the word of a youtuber rather than form their own opinion.
even Seatin ranks atleast 19 champs below cyclops.

In what monthly event quest or game mode is cyclops a top 50 option? Maybe Variant chapter 1 because there aren’t 50 mutant champs, but point is he’s got little to no utility and offers no type of advantage over 85% of the champs. Where does he shine? AW attack, defense, monthly quest, end game content.... none of the above.

Each champ doesn’t have to be the best in a certain game mode, but they need to bring something to the table other than arena points. And we certainly don’t need two variations of a champ which do the same thing. Where’s the roster diversity in that?

Never said he was good.
Never said he was top 50.
Just said there was worse.

If my options for a fight were hb, cyclops, colossus,
I would take cyclops everytime.

People gotta stop taking wat i am sayin outta context.
All i have been sayin is there are worse champs.
You can quest with cyclops and get the job done easier than you can with hb

GriZzLyRoD

I got 6 star cylops, so m4th 6 star, nebula daredevil and blackbolt. all this waste money and time, yesterday CYCLOPS ... really kabam ?

Disgruntled_User_123

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

BigPoppaCBONE wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

That's not at all what I said. Nice try. About what I'd expect from someone with a name like that. I don't watch Seatin anymore. I stopped a long time ago because he's quick to go from criticizing Kabam to spending on Featured crystals just for views. He could actually be a voice for the playerbase and push for real change, but doesn't actually take a real stand.

Man, I have to defend @Seatin here. His tutorial videos are great, his tier list is absolutely useful, and his featured crystal videos are fun. I think he’s not only a positive voice for the community, I think he’s the definitive one. Seatin is the LeBron of the MCOC YouTubers.

It’s logically consistent for him to legitimately criticize a Kabam decision while also supporting the company overall. I mean, we’re all fans but we’re not blind to a poor decision by the company. Seatin is fair and his videos are informative and humorous.

Liss_Bliss_

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Don't knock my boy Cyclops...

Miike uses comeback, it’s quite effective

VanillaCoke

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

BigPoppaCBONE wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

That's not at all what I said. Nice try. About what I'd expect from someone with a name like that. I don't watch Seatin anymore. I stopped a long time ago because he's quick to go from criticizing Kabam to spending on Featured crystals just for views. He could actually be a voice for the playerbase and push for real change, but doesn't actually take a real stand.

Do you think somebody can support a company, but not agree with all of their decisions? A lot of us here are like that. We may not spend money, but the fact that we are playing MCOC is a sign we're supporting the game. At the same time, we do not always agree with Kabam's decisions about the game. Also, Seatin was one of the advocates for the big changes/issues in the game such as 12.0, the the overheating/disconnection, etc.

ThatGrootGroot

Siliyo wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

BigPoppaCBONE wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

That's not at all what I said. Nice try. About what I'd expect from someone with a name like that. I don't watch Seatin anymore. I stopped a long time ago because he's quick to go from criticizing Kabam to spending on Featured crystals just for views. He could actually be a voice for the playerbase and push for real change, but doesn't actually take a real stand.

Do you think somebody can support a company, but not agree with all of their decisions? A lot of us here are like that. We may not spend money, but the fact that we are playing MCOC is a sign we're supporting the game. At the same time, we do not always agree with Kabam's decisions about the game. Also, Seatin was one of the advocates for the big changes/issues in the game such as 12.0, the the overheating/disconnection, etc.

But he doesn't stick to a position. If I remember correctly, he was non-committal on sticking with a position when there were overheating issues last year. He initially talked about a boycott, then switched and said a boycott would be a waste.

Also, you can't compare general players of the game to someone who is profiting by creating content about the game. Maybe I'm being overly critical, but I think any remote sincerity from him is just to get clicks. The guy calls it a cash grab and a gamble, but he's happy to join the COW train and spend other people's money on crystal openings to benefit himself.

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ThatGrootGroot

Haji_Saab wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

Worknprogress wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

BigPoppaCBONE wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

That's not at all what I said. Nice try. About what I'd expect from someone with a name like that. I don't watch Seatin anymore. I stopped a long time ago because he's quick to go from criticizing Kabam to spending on Featured crystals just for views. He could actually be a voice for the playerbase and push for real change, but doesn't actually take a real stand.

The guy is a Youtuber not a civil rights activist. Jesus.

Those are not the two choices here, but thanks for playing. Jesus.

What stand do you want him to take?

At this point, it doesn't matter. I don't watch him anymore because he was spineless and only out for clicks. In an ideal world, if he'd take a position on something and want positive changes in the game, he'd stop dropping money every week or every other week as a statement. That's the only way this company has ever gotten the hint that players are pissed. With his subscriber base, he could probably mobilize people to vote with their wallets. Instead, it doesn't matter to him as long as he's getting clicks.

Someone like Dorky Dave is good about saying there's a problem with the game or he sees something that's not quite right. He sticks to a position.

peasant

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

Haji_Saab wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

Worknprogress wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

BigPoppaCBONE wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

That's not at all what I said. Nice try. About what I'd expect from someone with a name like that. I don't watch Seatin anymore. I stopped a long time ago because he's quick to go from criticizing Kabam to spending on Featured crystals just for views. He could actually be a voice for the playerbase and push for real change, but doesn't actually take a real stand.

The guy is a Youtuber not a civil rights activist. Jesus.

Those are not the two choices here, but thanks for playing. Jesus.

What stand do you want him to take?

At this point, it doesn't matter. I don't watch him anymore because he was spineless and only out for clicks. In an ideal world, if he'd take a position on something and want positive changes in the game, he'd stop dropping money every week or every other week as a statement. That's the only way this company has ever gotten the hint that players are pissed. With his subscriber base, he could probably mobilize people to vote with their wallets. Instead, it doesn't matter to him as long as he's getting clicks.

Someone like Dorky Dave is good about saying there's a problem with the game or he sees something that's not quite right. He sticks to a position.

Seatin isn't wishy washy as you make him out to be. He loves this game, and it's his job, so it makes sense he spends while pointing out the flaws. There's a huge difference between pointing out the bad points/decisions of the game vs. outright leading a movement/spending strike against the company.

So you say you like people who stick to their position? Sounds like you more like people who would respond as you'd like them to.

"Mobilize people to not spend". Just because he has a platform doesn't mean he shares the same view as people who want to boycott spending.

chunkyb

@ThatGrootGroot you can't win this battle nor change minds, man. It's impossible. Its just kinda how it is. It is a good yardstick for knowing who's opinion to put value in tho lmao

ThatGrootGroot

peasant wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

Haji_Saab wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

Worknprogress wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

BigPoppaCBONE wrote: »

ThatGrootGroot wrote: »

In typical Seatin fashion, he'll criticize Kabam's decision but won't hesitate to drop money on the game for views on his video. He's self-serving.

Exactly. He should be you-serving, apparently. When your job is critiquing a game, and the game company makes a decision you don’t agree with you should shut everything down and give up your income source. Good point.

That's not at all what I said. Nice try. About what I'd expect from someone with a name like that. I don't watch Seatin anymore. I stopped a long time ago because he's quick to go from criticizing Kabam to spending on Featured crystals just for views. He could actually be a voice for the playerbase and push for real change, but doesn't actually take a real stand.

The guy is a Youtuber not a civil rights activist. Jesus.

Those are not the two choices here, but thanks for playing. Jesus.

What stand do you want him to take?

At this point, it doesn't matter. I don't watch him anymore because he was spineless and only out for clicks. In an ideal world, if he'd take a position on something and want positive changes in the game, he'd stop dropping money every week or every other week as a statement. That's the only way this company has ever gotten the hint that players are pissed. With his subscriber base, he could probably mobilize people to vote with their wallets. Instead, it doesn't matter to him as long as he's getting clicks.

Someone like Dorky Dave is good about saying there's a problem with the game or he sees something that's not quite right. He sticks to a position.

Seatin isn't wishy washy as you make him out to be. He loves this game, and it's his job, so it makes sense he spends while pointing out the flaws. There's a huge difference between pointing out the bad points/decisions of the game vs. outright leading a movement/spending strike against the company.

So you say you like people who stick to their position? Sounds like you more like people who would respond as you'd like them to.

"Mobilize people to not spend". Just because he has a platform doesn't mean he shares the same view as people who want to boycott spending.

"So you say you like people who stick to their position? Sounds like you more like people who would respond as you'd like them to."

If that's how you read it, then you're not worth the effort. That's absurd and not at all what I said, implied or even feel.

Tasty_Yum_Yums

MaatMan wrote: »

Tasty_Yum_Yums wrote: »

MaatMan wrote: »

in all seriousness cyclops is far from the most useless champ out there.
maybe HB or Colossus get that trophy.

Cyclops is useful. He just pales in comparison to other options.
My partner has a r3 Cyclops blue team and uses him all the time in her questing team with much more success than one would use a HulkBuster.

not trying to say he is amazingly great,
but he can get the job done,
and is better than alot of others.

for those haters and ones who dont believe my opinion but instead listen to the word of a youtuber rather than form their own opinion.
even Seatin ranks atleast 19 champs below cyclops.

In what monthly event quest or game mode is cyclops a top 50 option? Maybe Variant chapter 1 because there aren’t 50 mutant champs, but point is he’s got little to no utility and offers no type of advantage over 85% of the champs. Where does he shine? AW attack, defense, monthly quest, end game content.... none of the above.

Each champ doesn’t have to be the best in a certain game mode, but they need to bring something to the table other than arena points. And we certainly don’t need two variations of a champ which do the same thing. Where’s the roster diversity in that?

Never said he was good.
Never said he was top 50.
Just said there was worse.

If my options for a fight were hb, cyclops, colossus,
I would take cyclops everytime.

People gotta stop taking wat i am sayin outta context.
All i have been sayin is there are worse champs.
You can quest with cyclops and get the job done easier than you can with hb

Who’s taking things out of context?? I never claimed you said he was good or top 50. I claimed you stated he is useful. I then inquired where he’s useful which you danced around and said 2 other champs are worse. Just because those champs are worse still doesn’t mean he’s useful.

Show me some videos in LoL, act 5, or variant where he’s useful. I’ll go grab a snickers while I wait.

Kabam Miike

Alright everybody, I'm gonna shut this down because it's getting kind of personal. Everybody is entitled to their opinions on which Content Creators they do and don't enjoy, and for their own reasons, but let's remember that we're still talking about people. I've cleaned up some of the more rude comments, and will be closing this thread now.