Hawkeye and the Masochism Mode

I was using my 5* Hawkeye in act 5 chapter 2 quest 4 and the Masochism nodes takes both of his abilities on his Special 1 and it wont trigger his power drain or bleed instead of just eating 1 of them and the other triggering.

Any help on this would be great

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  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    Who else can you use? SL is good for it.
  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    Quake too
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  • DannyRandomDannyRandom Member Posts: 12
    Either this is a bug or the description of masochism needs to be revamped. Would like to see someone from Kabam weigh in on this. Is masochism working as intended versus Hawkeye?
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,405 ★★★★★
    That’s how it works with everyone that procs debuffs at the same time.
  • DannyRandomDannyRandom Member Posts: 12
    You work for Kabam? If not, my request remains. Would like to see a Kabam employee weigh in.
  • AdiMukh555AdiMukh555 Member Posts: 756 ★★★
    Same with Starkey's taunts
    Sometimes the system counts them as debuffs sometimes they don't
  • Mirage_TurtleMirage_Turtle Member Posts: 1,868 ★★★★

    Either this is a bug or the description of masochism needs to be revamped. Would like to see someone from Kabam weigh in on this. Is masochism working as intended versus Hawkeye?

    I have noticed in the past that Hawkeye's power drain from his SP1 inexplicably counts as a debuff despite behaving like an instantaneous effect with no symbol (similar to Vision's power drain). You could test this easily by going into the Road to the Labyrinth and using Hawkeye against the debuff-immune Rhino. The power drain from the L1 would be ineffective. This was a bug.

    I have not tested it in recent months, so I don't know if it's been addressed, though I don't remember seeing anything in the changelog about it.

    To answer your question, if two debuffs trigger simultaneously, masochism will treat them as a single debuff and remove both of them if it's not in cooldown. Many have made the case for Blade's parry, which will inflict stun and bleed at the same time. Masochism consumes both.

    In short, masochism consumes more than 1 debuff if they trigger at the same time (working as intended) and in my last testing, Hawkeye's power drain is being counted as a debuff an not working against debuff-immune champs/nodes (bug).
  • BirdReynoldsBirdReynolds Member Posts: 527 ★★★
    @Mirage_Turtle it has not. Kingpin is still able to immediately shrug off the power drain.
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