Green Goblin as a Tech Champion [Merged Threads]

Spig_Newton

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Joe77

Wow, darkest destroyer is arguing for kabam? Weird. Lol

Cayko

They want science to be terrible since MD is their cash cow. I mean, in the great nerf they claimed to be "balancing the game".
What did they do to the OP mastery, namely MD?
Nothing. Why?
Go figure

beeleeyoo

by their logic of "he fights with his technology", nearly every single champ in the game should be a skill champ because they punch with their fists.

Grub

Kabam Logic 101

Captain America:given a serum to enhance physical traits and use a shield created through technology by Howard stark to fight evil with = Science class

Green Gonlin= use a serum to enhance his physical traits and fights with bombs and a glider created by his company= Tech class

Makes sense to me

Skylord

Maybe they should let ppl use a sci or tech gem to awken him since he is a product of both

Grub

Primmer79

Cap takes a serum, is science.
Goblin takes a serum, is tech.
Ant-man uses tech, is science.
Agent Venom uses a symbiote to simply walk, is skill.

I could go all day. Really a non-issue. We complained tech sucked, they boosted it. Expect several events in 2018 to have science champs now that we're complaining.

Hulksmasshh

Grub wrote: »

Kabam Logic 101

Captain America:given a serum to enhance physical traits and use a shield created through technology by Howard stark to fight evil with = Science class

Green Gonlin= use a serum to enhance his physical traits and fights with bombs and a glider created by his company= Tech class

Makes sense to me

Antman & Yellowjacket: Completely normal human beings given technologically powered suits = Science

Grub

I agree, some liberties are to be taken regarding class. Although there should be some characters not even open to discussion. Green goblin is an iconic comic character and this is not some random movie remake (Falcon,Stark Spidey, etc) that you could argue for a different class. This is blasphemy and skin to making original hulk tech cause a gamma bomb is technology!!! NO sorry on this character they screwed up royally.

Kabam Miike

Alright everybody, I understand that you guys don't like the explanation that I gave, and it wasn't very informative. I'll talk to team and get back to you guys about the reasoning behind this. I imagine that it has to do with the way his abilities in game translate to the dynamics of the classes, but I will be back with information.

In the mean time, can we please remember to keep things civil and discuss things like adults? Remember the rules of the forums, and do not let this go off the rails.

mutamatt

not to mention we havent had a science champ feature since last September, looks like it will be an entire year before one comes up.

meanwhile what am i supposed to do with this science awakening gem.

this is ridiculous.

I had no idea when i beat the toughest content in the game, and scored a science awakening gem it was such a curse but i guess it is.

winniewinwin

I got nothing. My head just exploded with the absolute ridiculousness of ,not one, but TWO MORE TECH CHAMPIONS!?!?
Where are skill or science champs at!?!?
Serious question Kabam. What gives??

Spig_Newton

If they really wanted to incorporate tech they could have made him science class so we finally get a new science champ then did what they did with Karnak and then made him partially tech

TordenHimmelen

Reading the effects of Green Goblins pumpkin bomb abilities, particularly the random grab-bag of effects, made it seem fairly similar to the Star-lord elemental gun L2 and the Howard the Duck L2 attack. I still would have liked to see GG as a science champ, but can kinda see their reasoning. Doc Ock, on the other hand, has the research buffs that build up, and hopefully he'll be science like She-Hulk (but not terrible like her).

Skylord

Mystic_Mane wrote: »

The Goblin formula gives Green Goblin his powers. The fact that he's tech is just ridiculous

Yeah but his formula was the product of many tech start ups so there .... lol

JOHNOSA1995

He used same way like cap amrica so cap should be a tech!!!lol pls change GG to science

LocoMotives

JOHNOSA1995 wrote: »

He used same way like cap amrica so cap should be a tech!!!lol pls change GG to science

Cap doesn't fly on a glider and throw tech bombs, so this reasoning is flawed.

I wouldn't argue with Goblin being Tech if we weren't currently on a huge tech run and we had seen a science champ in 2017. As is, it doesn't make much sense.

Skylord

Kang should be cosmic too, but let's fix one at a time

JOHNOSA1995

LocoMotives wrote: »

JOHNOSA1995 wrote: »

He used same way like cap amrica so cap should be a tech!!!lol pls change GG to science

Cap doesn't fly on a glider and throw tech bombs, so this reasoning is flawed.

I wouldn't argue with Goblin being Tech if we weren't currently on a huge tech run and we had seen a science champ in 2017. As is, it doesn't make much sense.

So strak company made his shield he should be a tech

Primmer79

JOHNOSA1995 wrote: »

So strak company made his shield he should be a tech

The shield is a piece of metal/armor. Not a piece of operating machinery or actual tech like a suit.

mutamatt

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Alright everybody, I understand that you guys don't like the explanation that I gave, and it wasn't very informative. I'll talk to team and get back to you guys about the reasoning behind this. I imagine that it has to do with the way his abilities in game translate to the dynamics of the classes, but I will be back with information.

In the mean time, can we please remember to keep things civil and discuss things like adults? Remember the rules of the forums, and do not let this go off the rails.

i think the basis of the frustration is that its been almost a year since we have seen a science feature and that has seriously put people with a science awakening gem at a disadvantage.

CammonRo

I personally hoped GG would be science because of the goblin serum (and shortage of good science champs) but always thought he could be tech as well because of the glider and pumpkin bombs. It's a coin flip really. After reading his leaked ability descriptions I actually thought he would be tech. It's not a stretch really.

On the other hand, reading Doc Ock's description makes me think he'll be science. But I see someone else saying we are getting two new techs? Has Doc Ock's class been confirmed?

JOHNOSA1995

Primmer79 wrote: »

JOHNOSA1995 wrote: »

So strak company made his shield he should be a tech

The shield is a piece of metal/armor. Not a piece of operating machinery or actual tech like a suit.

If you read comics his shild isn't normal metal or armor so he should be a tech because in all special use his shild

Qwerty

CammonRo wrote: »

I personally hoped GG would be science because of the goblin serum (and shortage of good science champs) but always thought he could be tech as well because of the glider and pumpkin bombs. It's a coin flip really. After reading his leaked ability descriptions I actually thought he would be tech. It's not a stretch really.

On the other hand, reading Doc Ock's description makes me think he'll be science. But I see someone else saying we are getting two new techs? Has Doc Ock's class been confirmed?

as quoted from the event quest thread:

Dr. Otto Octavius, who uses his superior intellect and technology to win fights rather than raw strength

FPC3

A few thoughts...

Goblin himself without his glider would likely be Science. But he's using that piece of *technology* to fight with. Kabam said long, long ago that they work directly with Marvel on what class champs fall under, and that it's usually based on their fighting style, not necessarily their origin process. Cap takes a serum and is Science, well, he fights with his fists and legs, so it makes sense.

Although I have to agree that there are a few classifications that are just total head-scratchers. Agent Venom. Without the Symbiote, he'd be in a wheel chair. Symbiote Peter Parker, Symbiote Eddie Brock, Symbiote Cletus Cassidy - ALL COSMIC! Symbiote Flash Thompson, Skill. WTF??? And Deadpool X-Force. He has NO MUTANT POWERS, yet is classed as a Mutant. Why not Skill??

The Tech class was extremely lacking until this recent run of tech champs. It had the lowest number of champs in it, and only 2 or 3 of them were even desireable. By finishing off this run with 2 more Tech champs, Gobby and Oc, they will have finished a very rough balancing of the classes, and can start bringing in some variation.

Being upset about Gobby being Tech solely because YOU have a Science gem burning a hole in your pocket, is frankly being rather selfish. What if dozens of other people have Tech gems they are dying to get rid of? The game has to be designed around much much more than potential items in player's inventories. I mean, come on...

LocoMotives

JOHNOSA1995 wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

JOHNOSA1995 wrote: »

So strak company made his shield he should be a tech

The shield is a piece of metal/armor. Not a piece of operating machinery or actual tech like a suit.

If you read comics his shild isn't normal metal or armor so he should be a tech because in all special use his shild

His shield is Vibranium...are you arguing Black Panther should be Tech as well? Just stop, you're off the point.

Primmer79

JOHNOSA1995 wrote: »

If you read comics his shild isn't normal metal or armor so he should be a tech because in all special use his shild

I didn't say normal metal. That being said, his shield wouldn't move without him moving it.
It has no power source, it does not change shape, he literally swings it around and hits people with it. Now unless you're suggesting anyone with a sword is tech, I suggest you reevaluate your argument

CammonRo

Qwerty wrote: »

as quoted from the event quest thread:

Dr. Otto Octavius, who uses his superior intellect and technology to win fights rather than raw strength

Hmmm that does sound like he's leaning tech... but all his ability descriptions are literally branches of science LOL.

Spartacus29

mutamatt wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Alright everybody, I understand that you guys don't like the explanation that I gave, and it wasn't very informative. I'll talk to team and get back to you guys about the reasoning behind this. I imagine that it has to do with the way his abilities in game translate to the dynamics of the classes, but I will be back with information.

In the mean time, can we please remember to keep things civil and discuss things like adults? Remember the rules of the forums, and do not let this go off the rails.

i think the basis of the frustration is that its been almost a year since we have seen a science feature and that has seriously put people with a science awakening gem at a disadvantage.

This.

Also the fact that the mystic class has become so OP overall with their own individual abilities PLUS the effectiveness of MD it has made the desire for good science champs to help counter them more of a necessity.

So much change in the game over the last 10 months and not a single science feature. Explain how that is a good idea in any way