Buffet not working as stated

Willis495Willis495 Member Posts: 14 ★
in Bugs and Known Issues
Ever since the nick fury fix with suicides I have been paying attention to nodes such as buffet and how they are interacting and I have noticed buffet at the start of the fight nullifies all buffs instead of just one. In the description of buffet it states a singular buff but in the video red skulls champion info clearly states he should start with 5 armor up buffs yet he has 0 when the fight begins. I was wondering if there could be some clarification on the interaction with the way this node works with stacking buffs.

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  • Willis495Willis495 Member Posts: 14 ★
    Realized I took the first picture of the fight too soon went back and took another, also tested with venom and it seems buffet does not eat venom buffs.

  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    Masochism removes all debuffs that are inflicted at the same time as well.

    For example, if you parry with Blade you lose both the bleed and the stun. Same with multiple stacks of Spirit Venom with Voodoo's SP1.

    I'm not surprised that Buffet removes all buffs that are inflicted at the same time. (Not to say I agree with it)
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,900 ★★★★★
    Willis495 said:

    Realized I took the first picture of the fight too soon went back and took another, also tested with venom and it seems buffet does not eat venom buffs.

    It has eat klyter buff from him
  • Willis495Willis495 Member Posts: 14 ★
    Dexman1349 said:

    Masochism removes all debuffs that are inflicted at the same time as well.

    For example, if you parry with Blade you lose both the bleed and the stun. Same with multiple stacks of Spirit Venom with Voodoo's SP1.

    I'm not surprised that Buffet removes all buffs that are inflicted at the same time. (Not to say I agree with it)

    That’s why I posted it. If that was an unintended action from nick fury shouldn’t these either be fixed to act the same way or clarified on how it should work?
  • Willis495Willis495 Member Posts: 14 ★
    Gamer said:

    Willis495 said:

    Realized I took the first picture of the fight too soon went back and took another, also tested with venom and it seems buffet does not eat venom buffs.

    It has eat klyter buff from him
    But none of his buffs were removed he still has all 3 which is the weird part.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,900 ★★★★★
    Willis495 said:

    Gamer said:

    Willis495 said:

    Realized I took the first picture of the fight too soon went back and took another, also tested with venom and it seems buffet does not eat venom buffs.

    It has eat klyter buff from him
    But none of his buffs were removed he still has all 3 which is the weird part.
    The one ther got eat is the one with a timer one
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Willis495 said:

    Ever since the nick fury fix with suicides I have been paying attention to nodes such as buffet and how they are interacting and I have noticed buffet at the start of the fight nullifies all buffs instead of just one. In the description of buffet it states a singular buff but in the video red skulls champion info clearly states he should start with 5 armor up buffs yet he has 0 when the fight begins. I was wondering if there could be some clarification on the interaction with the way this node works with stacking buffs.

    The wording is different, while buffet and masochism is quite confusing sounding and needs a rewording, it can fall into both a single debuff or multiple debuffs, the latter is what kabam has said many times it intents it to behave as. What kills nick fury is the phrase "this can only trigger once" Buffet and masochism do not have this restriction, so if all the buffs trigger at one time from a single source they can all be removed because it can trigger more than ones.
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Haji_Saab said:

    Lormif said:

    Willis495 said:

    Ever since the nick fury fix with suicides I have been paying attention to nodes such as buffet and how they are interacting and I have noticed buffet at the start of the fight nullifies all buffs instead of just one. In the description of buffet it states a singular buff but in the video red skulls champion info clearly states he should start with 5 armor up buffs yet he has 0 when the fight begins. I was wondering if there could be some clarification on the interaction with the way this node works with stacking buffs.

    The wording is different, while buffet and masochism is quite confusing sounding and needs a rewording, it can fall into both a single debuff or multiple debuffs, the latter is what kabam has said many times it intents it to behave as. What kills nick fury is the phrase "this can only trigger once" Buffet and masochism do not have this restriction, so if all the buffs trigger at one time from a single source they can all be removed because it can trigger more than ones.

    But one trigger should remove one buff / debuff ... it should wait out the timer to remove another buff / debuff ...

    No, it can trigger multiple times on the single activation, to remove all buffs from a single source. The problem is a lot of the words we are using to describe it are similar, but not exactly the same.

    It did not use to work this way, it used to remove one and let the other go through, I am not sure if that was a bug they did not intend, or if it was nerfed due to a race condition issue where you could not account for what buff would be removed or not.

    But the wording does not restrict it to multiple triggers at the same time, unlike Fury.
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