**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
WreakingHavoc ★★
Comments
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I'm not twisting statements at all. You said that my logic doesn't work in the real world. It's a video game.
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You're right. I get it now. That kind of thinking doesn't hold up in the real world. Only in our imaginations, and in books, and video games. Oh wait...
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And maybe the other guy beat it without SL.
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I find it funny how the guy who said "It isn't even hard I can beat it with 3 stars. Stop whining." about the Webslinger challenge is telling people how dumb of an argument it is to say "Learn to play the game".
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Ruin the game? What game modes are ruined by sl post v12?[/quote] LAbrynth of Legends sounds familiar? Why SL is the only cheaper way of doing it. Did you read that well? Now spider man stark enhanced gets close to SL but he is still no comparison. For some enemies you need specific champs I agree. But damn!!!!!!!!!!…
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I'm saying that many agree with me, and many agree with you. Even if I provide some solid proof to refute you, you just say this nonsense that it'll happen anyway. Then when I say that's dumb, you backpedal and repeat your argument. When I prove it wrong, you say something dumb like this and on and on and on.
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I'm suggesting we make all champs to the or near to the UTILITY/SKILL LEVEL of SL and Hyperion, not give them the same abilities. If everyone is awesome, it'll be normal. Normal can mean average. Awesome would then become average. A few champs would be slightly above average, and some would be slightly worse. That's not…
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Yes, you did suggest that the addition or buffing of champs degrades older, pre-existing champs. So my argument is still valid.
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It's always nice when someone ends a debate by saying "Too bad they won't listen to you even if you're right!"
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Again, all champs are on a "scale" from good to eh to bad. If we can bring bad champs up to somewhere between good and eh, why do the good champs need to drop to eh? Just leave them so people don't get mad. If nerds didn't mess with people, I'd have no problem with your idea. But nerfs do mess with people, including me, so…
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That whole argument is predicated on the idea that there is a limit of space in each tier. If Spider-Man is "Good Tier", and a new champ is added to "Good Tier", he won't go down to "Mediocre Tier". There's just another guy as useful as him. That doesn't make him worse, it simply makes someone else join his level.
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Fair enough. TFTF may be better in the future, but for now, I'm gonna stick to the game that's better now. If I had to choose to play MCOC on version 1 or version 14, I'd choose 14, despite the bugs. It's the same reason I'd rather join a 5 mil alliance than a 1 mil alliance with 6 mil potential. It's not as good yet. If…
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That's not true at all. Buffing champs doesn't make champs worse. When Magik was buffed, it didn't make Spider-Man any worse. He's still pretty good. Unless a buff is over-the-top new-best-champ Collector-style-awesome, it doesn't effect the usefulness of other champs.
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I'm just saying that there are many skillful masteries and abilities that are in MCOC that are far more skill-oriented to be utilized than in TFTF. I'm not saying I'm skilled, I actually will readily admit that I'm not near many people's level of fighting ability, I'm just saying that this game seems to take more smarts…
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I was using hyperbole to make a point. Buffing and nerfing to the extreme can be bad. Buffing and nerfing to achieve overall game balance while maintaining unique character qualities can be good. I have seen other games do it successfully. Kabam's previous missteps may have left some people resistant to nerfs and buffs,…
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Okay, that's unreasonable. Of course making someone have an absolute counter to everything and do infinite damage and always take zero damage is game-breaking. I'm saying that making a champ better - within reason - isn't a problem under any circumstances.
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That's just not true. I'm not saying you're lying, I just don't think you understand. Let's just say that all champions are on a scale of 1 to 10. Someone like Hyperion or Star Lord is a 10, while a champ like Spidergwen or Carnage is a 1. If you thing those champs up to a 10, or even a 7 or 8, why would you have to bring…
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You are exactly right. I spent time in him because he's good. But buffs aren't as bad as nerfs. Ever. Buffing everyone to the same level wouldn't HURT people. It would balance the game. I'm not saying everyone should be identical, I'm saying that all champs should be able to be utilized.
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I'm happy to take it, don't get me wrong, just wondering where it's coming from.
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I can't tell if Kabam is overzealous with their free stuff, or if they're trying to compensate us without saying sorry.
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There's no excuse for most of what Kabam's doing, but that doesn't stop them.
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He's still not as good. A change to make someone worse is, by definition, a nerf. A change to make someone better is, by definition, a buff. Lowering the cap of effectiveness is making someone worse.
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Namely bases.
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There's definitely no need for a nerf, but buffs would be completely justified. I mean, have you seen Spidergwen? And Iron Patriot? Luke Cage? Ant-Man, Carnage, Iron Man, Hulkbuster, Black Bolt, Magneto, Loki, and Iron Fist? Those guys all need buffed. The amount of already good champs doesn't effect that.
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It's a slide-back-and-forth-then-attack-right-when-they-move type of game. That's how it was to me, anyway.
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@"Kabam Miike", do you even care about this thread anymore?
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Transformers? You mean the slower, clunkier, more complex, less skillful, and just plain worse version of Contest of Champions? Okay, then.
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I've been watching this conversation for a long time now, and I'm gonna step in and say something. I understand what you mean. You want all champs to be as effective as each other, just in different ways. I, too, think that this should happen. The problem is the process you think it should be pursued. You want the best…
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Kabam spent all day closing threads on this topic and redirecting them here, yet they didn't comment here at all, even though we had questions. Worst customer service I've ever seen.
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I've seen many people react to the OP. If you react, please post as well. We need Kabam to see this, because if they don't see this, they won't see the other thread, and if they don't see the other thread, then we won't get answers to our questions. So, this is a question about a question about a question thread. Please…