If you're losing your streak when your team has a higher PI then you either need to improve your fighting skills or change your masteries around to help you fight better.
As others have said, fight 25 and fight 250 is the same AI difficulty so it's all about having a bigger roster and knowing how to fight.
There's plenty of infinite streak guides around if you need help with knowing what level champs to bring at which streak but once you're on 21 you shouldn't be losing your streak.
@Spicyslicer at match 20, it looks like you are matched up equally. Just choose one of the matches that you have a class advantage on right away. If the opponent's PI/Team Rating is the same as yours, then it's an even match, and you just need to fight better. When you say god match ups, I was expecting you to be facing someone with almost double your team PI.
I always do, so am either garbage or doing something else wrong
I'm assuming this is in the 4* basic arena (the one where you can use 4* and 3* champs).
If this is the case then give us an example of a team you use at streak 20 that often gets you losses.
Then we, the ones with superhuman (not really, most are probably pretty average) skills can tell you if you're garbage or picking the wrong teams
I would not say necessarily it was a cash grab, it simply favours older players who have been here for years. That's different, a few of them have never spent a penny in this game.
A cash grab would be limiting you from tackling certain things, and if you only have 12 characters suited to that thing you are wasting your time even trying. I am in the same boat and 2&3* arenas, only 18 guys so have little chance of a hero win, but do get good shards.
If you can't beat that then the game shouldn't adapt to you, you just need to learn how to fight because that's an incredibly fair, easy matchup.
It seems you have not followed the read or read. This is the star of where things change. That's why it was posted. If you looked at that post and based all of your opinions on it I would like to invite you to read. Or use common sense judgment.
I have 12 4 stars now that is all.
The fact that the game gets easier as you improve you roster is so stupid as to not make sense to me and is antithetical to ever game I have ever played since 1980.
It means that all I have to look forward to is grinding. The challenge leaves your not rewarded for hard work other than grind grind grinds.....
And when your new it only makes it so hard to advance.... I'm thinking this is a cash grab and all the chips are against me from the initial programming.
You are funny...
Stop complaining as everyone else has been at the stage you are at, in fact when many started out there were no crystal shards, 4*s were like unicorns and the best way to get one was to save 2500 units for when the offer to buy a 4* crystal came up.
so sure you might find it unfair because somehow in almost 40 years you've never played a game with a progression model similar to this, but here's the thing, many, many games are like this, you start off with little and over time you build up your character (or in this case, roster) and things get easier/harder things don't seem so impossible.
And really that 20 streak was hard enough? I dont think so. If it is in 3star arena its ok, but in 4star basic, after 20 you shouldnt use less then 4star 3/30.
Lost and gave up today in streak 8! Never seen anything like it, have won countless times there with the same team week after week, today for some reason in that match AI were super fast, insta heavying blocking specials, they never usually do this at this low streak number.
I just gave up, literally couldn't be arsed to deal with it. I can't bait to save my life so when I come up against this type of AI I literally just give up, there is no point in me continuing as I will definitely lose every fight, get mega frustrated throw something!
I have to be realistic about my own abilities, I play block peekaboo, so I find baiting extremely hard, often get hit by heavies so as you can imagine a team like the above it's pretty pointless me continuing at my skill level.
What I don't get, is why that fight today, heroes were not levelled, same as weeks ago. Is it masteries? Is it just **** luck? Either way it's monumentally frustrating
There are a lot of guides on how to infinite streak. They are proven to be correct many times over. If you are unable to infinite streak it is as a result of one of the following:
1) Not following the guides
2) Having an insufficient roster
3) Not being a skilled enough player
Before I was able to infinite streak in the 4* Basic, I ground out the 3* featured to get more champs. Before I was able to infinite streak in the 4* featured I ground out champs in the basic. This is a game of progression and it actually does reward you for being active. It sounds as though your roster is insufficient to infinite streak, you are expecting to be at a point in this game that you are not actually at.
Similarly, the match up you posted is not a difficult match up by any means. My PVP streak is over 300 and I got there by following a progression.
I have looked at dozens of profiles of users like me, level 30 key, 35k rating, and very very few have streaks over 15.
That's a fact.
your right, at your level it would be much more of a challenge. Level up, grow your roster. Work on your mastery. In time you will find it more easy, but until then you will have to build your self up just like the rest of us did.
You really dont need to follow any guide. I have tested many. Just follow this as i gave screenshot. I use my 15 1/10 3stars. It gets me to x3 multiplier. Then use my 6 1/10 4stars. Its streak 7. Then comes my 9 3/30 4stars. Its streak 10. Really hard work done. Now comes my 6 4/40 4stars and i get kang or thanos team. This makes streak12. From here i only use my 4/40 and 3/30 4stars. 5 series in one round as i have this much, sold few of my 4stars for my 2 5stars. But this 5 series brings me over 100k.
I am not a titan, i usually dont go for big cutoff hero arena. I target the basic hero arena that had cutoff aroumt 3M in round1. Cause with my current roster its pretty easy to do.
But whatever you do, whatever your roster is, unless you throw that thought that you cant get through you really cant. You are saying about unfair matchup, i will send you one i faced, hopefully that will motivate you.
But for successful and easy way of arena grind and infinite streak is use 3stars only to get to x3 multiplier, after that use 4stars only and after reaching 10/12 streak dont use below 3/30 and use around same pi champ in a team. Now if you can, you can. If you cant, just wait till you can.
To you maybe, but I would not even attempt that's and have nothing like that level of hero, as I said guys like you are really playing a different game.
I think the ai needs tweaking. This is getting frustrating and unfun. When there is nothing I can do to get the ai to trigger their special attack and you lose because the ai is so rediculously over powered is becoming very stale.
To go from winning 20 fights in a row to hitting a wall at 90 mph. Not fun.
Please I don't need to win 20 in a row and I'm not asking to make it 40 wins in a row. But please for the love of,video games.... to got from 20 in a row easy and at 21 it being insanely hard maybe some gradation or smoothing out is necessary....
Thoughts?
My streak is currently over 120 (shrug) if you just do the fights randomly, the difficulty will ramp up sharply at about fight 19 or 20. If you follow any number of infinite Streak guides (which are available all over the place) you won't see that jump in difficulty and may have more success.
These are the kinds of fights I regularly see in AQ and AW, so not only do I have to win it, I have to preserve enough health to do it again, and again, and again....
@Billybob1971 the dupes as you point out are good and bad. Bad because you're not expanding your roster immediately. Good because they give you the shards to access a better roster in the future.
My suggestion would be also to max your 3* champs one at a time, don't split your ISO resources evenly. You'll end up with a bunch of mid level champs that can't help you streak in arena because they will trigger a death squad because their PI is too low.
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As others have said, fight 25 and fight 250 is the same AI difficulty so it's all about having a bigger roster and knowing how to fight.
There's plenty of infinite streak guides around if you need help with knowing what level champs to bring at which streak but once you're on 21 you shouldn't be losing your streak.
I'm assuming this is in the 4* basic arena (the one where you can use 4* and 3* champs).
If this is the case then give us an example of a team you use at streak 20 that often gets you losses.
Then we, the ones with superhuman (not really, most are probably pretty average) skills can tell you if you're garbage or picking the wrong teams
If you can't beat that then the game shouldn't adapt to you, you just need to learn how to fight because that's an incredibly fair, easy matchup.
A cash grab would be limiting you from tackling certain things, and if you only have 12 characters suited to that thing you are wasting your time even trying. I am in the same boat and 2&3* arenas, only 18 guys so have little chance of a hero win, but do get good shards.
You are funny...
Stop complaining as everyone else has been at the stage you are at, in fact when many started out there were no crystal shards, 4*s were like unicorns and the best way to get one was to save 2500 units for when the offer to buy a 4* crystal came up.
so sure you might find it unfair because somehow in almost 40 years you've never played a game with a progression model similar to this, but here's the thing, many, many games are like this, you start off with little and over time you build up your character (or in this case, roster) and things get easier/harder things don't seem so impossible.
Thats my current 20
Lost and gave up today in streak 8! Never seen anything like it, have won countless times there with the same team week after week, today for some reason in that match AI were super fast, insta heavying blocking specials, they never usually do this at this low streak number.
I just gave up, literally couldn't be arsed to deal with it. I can't bait to save my life so when I come up against this type of AI I literally just give up, there is no point in me continuing as I will definitely lose every fight, get mega frustrated throw something!
I have to be realistic about my own abilities, I play block peekaboo, so I find baiting extremely hard, often get hit by heavies so as you can imagine a team like the above it's pretty pointless me continuing at my skill level.
What I don't get, is why that fight today, heroes were not levelled, same as weeks ago. Is it masteries? Is it just **** luck? Either way it's monumentally frustrating
Which by the way is Vs mode all over for me
1) Not following the guides
2) Having an insufficient roster
3) Not being a skilled enough player
Before I was able to infinite streak in the 4* Basic, I ground out the 3* featured to get more champs. Before I was able to infinite streak in the 4* featured I ground out champs in the basic. This is a game of progression and it actually does reward you for being active. It sounds as though your roster is insufficient to infinite streak, you are expecting to be at a point in this game that you are not actually at.
Similarly, the match up you posted is not a difficult match up by any means. My PVP streak is over 300 and I got there by following a progression.
Having only 18 3* even if I had double that I would do OK as I could win maybe 10 or 12, and start again.
As I say some of the aspects of streaks I simply do not have the skills to do like baiting and knowing the right times to do things.
I do OK in the 2* arenas but am wanting to move up a bit now, but maybe have not got anything like enough heroes.
And started getting a lot of dupes now too which is good and bad, clearly good form that heroes perspective, but not good on increasing my roster!!
your right, at your level it would be much more of a challenge. Level up, grow your roster. Work on your mastery. In time you will find it more easy, but until then you will have to build your self up just like the rest of us did.
I am not a titan, i usually dont go for big cutoff hero arena. I target the basic hero arena that had cutoff aroumt 3M in round1. Cause with my current roster its pretty easy to do.
But whatever you do, whatever your roster is, unless you throw that thought that you cant get through you really cant. You are saying about unfair matchup, i will send you one i faced, hopefully that will motivate you.
But for successful and easy way of arena grind and infinite streak is use 3stars only to get to x3 multiplier, after that use 4stars only and after reaching 10/12 streak dont use below 3/30 and use around same pi champ in a team. Now if you can, you can. If you cant, just wait till you can.
I can't bait so even with 3* guys will likely only get to streak 12 or so, but with enough of them, one can start again and go through again.
My streak is currently over 120 (shrug) if you just do the fights randomly, the difficulty will ramp up sharply at about fight 19 or 20. If you follow any number of infinite Streak guides (which are available all over the place) you won't see that jump in difficulty and may have more success.
These are the kinds of fights I regularly see in AQ and AW, so not only do I have to win it, I have to preserve enough health to do it again, and again, and again....
My suggestion would be also to max your 3* champs one at a time, don't split your ISO resources evenly. You'll end up with a bunch of mid level champs that can't help you streak in arena because they will trigger a death squad because their PI is too low.
I can't bait so even with 3* guys will likely only get to streak 12 or so, but with enough of them, one can start again and go through again.