Scale up old chanps

Mr_Otter

The WORST class in the game needs a lot of buffs to even remain relevant

Abomination:
•All attacks have a 20% chance to poison (this is juuust below Wolverine's chance to bleed) 65% attack over 13 seconds
•signature gets buffed to include Abominations own attacks and will have a separate chance to apply poison similarly to how Wolverine's signature ability allows an extra chance to regen
•Special attacks can either give him a Biohazard Charge that gives him double chance to poison for 10 seconds or can apply a 140% poison for 20 seconds

Kamala Khan: let her specials have a 50% chance to refresh each pre-existing fury at the start of the animation

Oldman Logan:
Every 5 seconds Logan isn't hit with a direct attack and doesn't have a Debuff on him his healing factor is allowed to catch up increasing his regeneration amount by 50% up to a total of 4 times

Groot/Old Man Logan
Their OWN attacks can trigger pacify and Berserk

Mr_Otter

Why was this flagged? Seriously all the new champs have entire paragraphs of abilities that make them great and a lot of the ones from THIS YEAR are potentially even god tier especially Gwenpool, AA, Spark, Ice, P99, Yondu… aside from Carnage all of them are highly desirable

But then you look at the old champs that a LOT of people get and it's all trash!

Most champs prior to AV are either Gods or subpar with little in between and from AV to December it's still really hit or miss with just more success than failure

MegaSkater67

While I agree abomination really needs some improvements and KK too having old man Logan get pacify on his own attacks wouldn't be a good change imo. He's actually very good if you know how to use him, it's all about managing pacifism and berserk and changing it to be like that would cause too much berserk imo. He's a very good boss killer and his bleed stacks are incredible when you're able to build up pacifism. Having some pacifism and berserk active at the same time can make his sp2 do some serious bleed damage. Honestly he's fine as he is, the only problem he has is that he's very underrated. The Regen idea isn't bad but 4 times is too much. Maybe just once, that isn't his primary use after all.

Mr_Otter

MegaSkater67 wrote: »

While I agree abomination really needs some improvements and KK too having old man Logan get pacify on his own attacks wouldn't be a good change imo. He's actually very good if you know how to use him, it's all about managing pacifism and berserk and changing it to be like that would cause too much berserk imo. He's a very good boss killer and his bleed stacks are incredible when you're able to build up pacifism. Having some pacifism and berserk active at the same time can make his sp2 do some serious bleed damage. Honestly he's fine as he is, the only problem he has is that he's very underrated. The Regen idea isn't bad but 4 times is too much. Maybe just once, that isn't his primary use after all.

OML is easily the worst Mutant champ in the game next to Cyclops or gambit

Not only is his Pacify waaaay too slow to gain but his specials give him very low chance to bleed even at higher dupe levels. The self-Pacify would help make him more consistent with his damage output. And his regen is currently very VERY low and even adding a 200% boost to regen would make him just viable enough to get through midway Act4 with no damage if you parried PERFECTLY which is insanely hard due to Kabam changing the timing all the time… although perhaps a 150% boost max would be more fair so he's not too good

MegaSkater67

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I use my 5/50 all the time and consistently get more than 5 bleeds on sp2. What appears to be a low chance on his sp2 is not as low as you'd expect. Each hit has that % to trigger bleed and each hit can trigger more than one bleed. His sp2 bleed is also separate from the sig bleed and can stack up to 3 times. Even if just one triggers the damage is quite good especially if you add the smaller bleeds on top of it with deep wounds. If you increase the pacifism you make his sig less valuable because you'll get too much pacifism and each charge could make him go berserk. If he goes berserk too much he loses the extra bleeds from his sig. This is why he's a good Boss killer and excels in longer fights, bait your opponents sp1 and you'll get plenty of pacifism. His Regen is also supposed to be low as that is just an added bonus to the character and is actually useful as it is. I get 37 health twice per second, that's almost 4.5k per minute. If you're able to dodge attacks and intercept that makes a big difference and he can clear lanes in AQ very easily. He also works on bleed nodes since he shrugs it off 85% faster and heals during and after it ends. It also allows you to block a few hits safely and recover the health. When berserk does trigger his sp2 bleed damage is increased as well and I've had over 700 per tic from just one stack. If they're immune to bleed that's not a problem because his sp1 pierces 100% armour and can crit over 10k with berserk. I used him as a 4/40 for Act 4 and rarely had an issue apart from the odd fight like that magneto or venom. He was excellent against the Degen in chapter 3 as his own healing and willpower almost matched the damage he was taking. He certainly isn't the worst mutant on the game, not once you've got used to him. Still very underrated imo, I actually took him to 5/50 over wolverine and X-23. They're both great don't get me wrong but if I had to pick a favourite I'd go with Logan every time.