Despair Mastery Bugged? (Not reversing regen)

FactorQFactorQ Member Posts: 110 ★
in Bugs and Known Issues
Description for despair mastery: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and Regeneration effects by X% each.
With Despair 3/3 each debuff reduces healing by 15%.
At 6 debuffs, you get 15 x 6% = 90% healing reduction. 7 debuffs, 105% and 8 debuffs, 120%.

As seen in this video, despair is not reversing the regen after 7 stacks of debuffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw-M4meda14

There's no reason why despair should not be able to reverse regen when there are champions with petrify abilities that are capable of reversing regen. Please look into fixing this.

Comments

  • MarzGrooveMarzGroove Member Posts: 903 ★★★
    If you have two doughnuts, I can't take three from you.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    It really is not a bug. Simply said, despair isn't and never was supposed to reverse healing.

    Don't need a fix. It's not broken.
    They would need to take in consideration champions that can do an infinite amount perma debuffs in the fight, which would may lead to a cap (aka, indirect nerf)
  • FactorQFactorQ Member Posts: 110 ★
    will-o-wisp wrote: »
    It really is not a bug. Simply said, despair isn't and never was supposed to reverse healing.

    Don't need a fix. It's not broken.
    They would need to take in consideration champions that can do an infinite amount perma debuffs in the fight, which would may lead to a cap (aka, indirect nerf)

    That is simply your assertion that it is not supposed to work that way. On paper the description is pretty much the same as the description for petrify debuffs, which do reverse regen

    As another example, with two petrify rebuffs Void reduces healing by 100%. With points in despair you can have between 110-130% healing reduction, resulting in some regen reversal. In effect when you have the despair mastery, each debuff should work as a small 5% to 15% "petrify" (without the power gain reduction) but it's currently not behaving this way.

    Very few champs can stack an infinite amount of debuffs in the way you describe. The only one I can think of is KG. Even for havok those debuffs drop off after 10 stacks.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    This was asked when despair was introduced, and even after that. It is not supposed to reverse healing, so I can only assume it's working as intended.
    Despair does not work as a petrify. They are two different mechanics
  • FactorQFactorQ Member Posts: 110 ★
    will-o-wisp wrote: »
    This was asked when despair was introduced, and even after that. It is not supposed to reverse healing, so I can only assume it's working as intended.
    Despair does not work as a petrify. They are two different mechanics

    Do you have a link to an official moderator response? Personally I don't think allowing despair to reverse regen unbalances the game, it opens up more champions to be viable for countering regen instead of relying on the same few champs.
  • AlexAvalonAlexAvalon Member Posts: 655 ★★★
    I think I remember reading a mod response that said something about diminishing returns and despair not being able to reverse regen that at it's best it will stop the regen but not reverse it and that it wasn't intended to reverse it. But it can be used with petrify debuffs to reverse healing so it's certainly a part of reversing the healing and not just stopping it with void and cap iw and the like...although void can reverse it on his own he can do it quicker with despair u only need a few petrify instead of a fotv and then additional petrify debuffs to reverse it and I believe in caps case it's pretty much required to reliably get the job done, I think the new beta for SH and SG involved petrify for one or both of them, excited to see what that's all about
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