Kingpin Converting OR Debuffs

Dhops

I was recently fighting with Omega Red against Kingpin and found that Kingpin was able to convert a parry stun and his degen into Rage even with more than 10 spores up.



Above gif shows him converting the degen from the first part of the heavy into a rage and then the second hit not being converted. This has happened in arena and duels with different debuffs when over 10 spores which should be impossible.

Demonzfyre

Spores are the only thing not affected. Those can only be taken off by distance. KP converts debuffs in rage and ORs degen is a debuff

Cliffordcan

Demonzfyre said:

Spores are the only thing not affected. Those can only be taken off by distance. KP converts debuffs in rage and ORs degen is a debuff

Please read OR’s abilities. OP is correct, each spore Reduces chance to purify debuffs by 10%. That’s 140% there, unless it’s just DR that makes it 99.99999999% but OP is just very unlucky.

Dhops

Cliffordcan said:

Demonzfyre said:

Spores are the only thing not affected. Those can only be taken off by distance. KP converts debuffs in rage and ORs degen is a debuff

Please read OR’s abilities. OP is correct, each spore Reduces chance to purify debuffs by 10%. That’s 140% there, unless it’s just DR that makes it 99.99999999% but OP is just very unlucky.

Yep, it's happened multiple times with 10+ spores against Kingpin, both stuns and degen (happened later in that same fight as well). Something is bugged with OR.

Lormif

Cliffordcan said:

Demonzfyre said:

Spores are the only thing not affected. Those can only be taken off by distance. KP converts debuffs in rage and ORs degen is a debuff

Please read OR’s abilities. OP is correct, each spore Reduces chance to purify debuffs by 10%. That’s 140% there, unless it’s just DR that makes it 99.99999999% but OP is just very unlucky.

Kingpin is not purifying, he is converting.

Championcritic

I don't think kingpin's rage counts as a purify.

Cliffordcan

Lormif said:

Cliffordcan said:

Demonzfyre said:

Spores are the only thing not affected. Those can only be taken off by distance. KP converts debuffs in rage and ORs degen is a debuff

Please read OR’s abilities. OP is correct, each spore Reduces chance to purify debuffs by 10%. That’s 140% there, unless it’s just DR that makes it 99.99999999% but OP is just very unlucky.

Kingpin is not purifying, he is converting.

Pretty sure that is the same. Pretty sure Shrug-Off counts as purifying as well. If not, we need proper definitions and classifications. But I don’t believe you so I will wait for a mod to clarify

Dhops

It’s also happening with KG:

Lormif

Cliffordcan said:

Lormif said:

Cliffordcan said:

Demonzfyre said:

Spores are the only thing not affected. Those can only be taken off by distance. KP converts debuffs in rage and ORs degen is a debuff

Please read OR’s abilities. OP is correct, each spore Reduces chance to purify debuffs by 10%. That’s 140% there, unless it’s just DR that makes it 99.99999999% but OP is just very unlucky.

Kingpin is not purifying, he is converting.

Pretty sure that is the same. Pretty sure Shrug-Off counts as purifying as well. If not, we need proper definitions and classifications. But I don’t believe you so I will wait for a mod to clarify

The the question is, is this additive, or multiplicative like everything else is? For example blades sysergy with stark spidy says

Blade: +45% Potency for Danger Sense Bonuses

But it is not additive, it is multiplicative., so the chance only becomes ~65% not 85%.

So in this case it could be (50%-50%*.1) for each spore.

Dhops

Any update on this @Kabam Miike @Kabam Lyra? This seems to be happening with Korg and others that can shrug off debuffs pretty consistently now.