It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
Most abilities are 100% chance (unless otherwise stated) and glancing requires being attacked so no coldsnap and void’s debuffs will not glance. GG chicken little.
So Iceman and Void's l1 should glance now since they cause Coldsnap and Intimidating Presence Debuffs?
Not following, they’ve always been subject, or not, to glancing, depending. If they are applied via an attack they can glance just like everything else. Their ticks will not glance. Them being applied outside of during an attack will not glance, Glancing requires being attacked.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
Also, can we let go of that? I'm not the only person who has used "for all intensive purposes". I may be the only one who never hears the end of it. Are we the Grammar Police now? I think that's really low-hat.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
He was talking about How you define thing Not controlling thought processes Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
Also, can we let go of that? I'm not the only person who has used "for all intensive purposes". I may be the only one who never hears the end of it. Are we the Grammar Police now? I think that's really low-hat.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
He was talking about How you define thing Not controlling thought processes Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
That's literally their thought process we are talking about. Not our own.
Also, can we let go of that? I'm not the only person who has used "for all intensive purposes". I may be the only one who never hears the end of it. Are we the Grammar Police now? I think that's really low-hat.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
He was talking about How you define thing Not controlling thought processes Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
That's literally their thought process we are talking about. Not our own.
Also, can we let go of that? I'm not the only person who has used "for all intensive purposes". I may be the only one who never hears the end of it. Are we the Grammar Police now? I think that's really low-hat.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
He was talking about How you define thing Not controlling thought processes Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
That's literally their thought process we are talking about. Not our own.
A definition isn’t a thought process
The discussion stemmed from a comment Miike made giving some insight on how they came to the conclusion. That is their thought process. That's what we are debating. Also, water is wet. It's always wet/never dry/always never dry. Lol.
Also, can we let go of that? I'm not the only person who has used "for all intensive purposes". I may be the only one who never hears the end of it. Are we the Grammar Police now? I think that's really low-hat.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
He was talking about How you define thing Not controlling thought processes Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
That's literally their thought process we are talking about. Not our own.
A definition isn’t a thought process
The discussion stemmed from a comment Miike made giving some insight on how they came to the conclusion. That is their thought process. That's what we are debating. Also, water is wet. It's always wet/never dry/always never dry. Lol.
We want their thought process clearly defined so the game makes sense. Right now it doesn't because their descriptions of the same thing can be interpreted in different ways. We don't want an arbitrary game where players can't make informed decisions on champions and rank ups.
Also, can we let go of that? I'm not the only person who has used "for all intensive purposes". I may be the only one who never hears the end of it. Are we the Grammar Police now? I think that's really low-hat.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
He was talking about How you define thing Not controlling thought processes Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
That's literally their thought process we are talking about. Not our own.
A definition isn’t a thought process
The discussion stemmed from a comment Miike made giving some insight on how they came to the conclusion. That is their thought process. That's what we are debating. Also, water is wet. It's always wet/never dry/always never dry. Lol.
We want their thought process clearly defined so the game makes sense. Right now it doesn't because their descriptions of the same thing can be interpreted in different ways. We don't want an arbitrary game where players can't make informed decisions on champions and rank ups.
Name one person who Ranked Corvus for the interaction with Glancing. Go ahead. I'll wait.
Also, can we let go of that? I'm not the only person who has used "for all intensive purposes". I may be the only one who never hears the end of it. Are we the Grammar Police now? I think that's really low-hat.
It's taking one comment on the thought process and applying it to all the wording in the game, and that in itself is perpetuating confusion. It's literally one interaction they were looking at. Not all of them. The bottom line is they don't want Crit to happen with Glancing due to the effect Micro has with it. That's about it. It has less to do with the wording than is being expanded on here. They want Micro Reflect to reflect ordinary Damage only, and not Crit. Honestly, this was one comment Miike made that became stretched out.
No! We don't get to dismiss this important point.
HOW they define things is VERY IMPORTANT. It literally decides how the game functions. So it can't be arbitrary. We need clear consistent rules on this otherwise they can literally change anything they want at any time like they did with guaranteed crits which we all know is nonsense.
Many abilities in this game aren't worded as always, are they going to stop working from now on too? Will Icemans coldsnap or Void debuffs start glancing these days?
Defining abilities are entirely arbitrary and we can't have that.
They CAN literally change anything they want. What would you like to do? Send them to bed without Supper? Lol. Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible. They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
He was talking about How you define thing Not controlling thought processes Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
That's literally their thought process we are talking about. Not our own.
A definition isn’t a thought process
The discussion stemmed from a comment Miike made giving some insight on how they came to the conclusion. That is their thought process. That's what we are debating. Also, water is wet. It's always wet/never dry/always never dry. Lol.
We want their thought process clearly defined so the game makes sense. Right now it doesn't because their descriptions of the same thing can be interpreted in different ways. We don't want an arbitrary game where players can't make informed decisions on champions and rank ups.
Name one person who Ranked Corvus for the interaction with Glancing. Go ahead. I'll wait.
It's about EVERY ABILITY. Everything in this game can be interpreted as a can or cannot, so players need a consistent set of rules to work with. Try and come up with a response that makes sense. We'll wait.
Actually don't. We've had enough of word salad and irrelevant nonsensical ramblings.
No. It's about THIS Ability. A comment was made about how they came to the conclusion, and somehow it branched off into a discussion about everything. What you want is a detailed explanation to their entire thought process, and I doubt they will do that. You're free to ask but they don't have to verify every aspect of their decisions.
No. It's about THIS Ability. A comment was made about how they came to the conclusion, and somehow it branched off into a discussion about everything. What you want is a detailed explanation to their entire thought process, and I doubt they will do that. You're free to ask but they don't have to verify every aspect of their decisions.
I know it's hard but stop and think for 2 seconds before posting. It's about EVERY ability now.
Every ability can be described as a can or cannot ,so the rules of this game are made without reason and we don't want a game like that.
No. It's about THIS Ability. A comment was made about how they came to the conclusion, and somehow it branched off into a discussion about everything. What you want is a detailed explanation to their entire thought process, and I doubt they will do that. You're free to ask but they don't have to verify every aspect of their decisions.
All @Longtimegamer is asking for is more clarity If the devs/whoever at kabam were more clear and better at describing how interactions like this would work in game there would not be threads like this where the players take it upon themselves to interpret the rules.
No. It's about THIS Ability. A comment was made about how they came to the conclusion, and somehow it branched off into a discussion about everything. What you want is a detailed explanation to their entire thought process, and I doubt they will do that. You're free to ask but they don't have to verify every aspect of their decisions.
I know it's hard but stop and think for 2 seconds before posting. It's about EVERY ability now.
Every ability can be described as a can or cannot ,so the rules of this game are made without reason and we don't want a game like that.
Every ability is at stake here, not just Corvus.
No. Every Ability is not at stake. That's an exaggeration based on a comment about the Glancing interaction. One comment, exaggerated to every interaction containing those words, when the only one they were looking at was this one. The reasoning is in the Patch Notes. It's so that Micro Reflect only reflects regular Damage. The rest is just a bit of insight into the process of how they got there, and that's only one aspect of how they got there. So what you are asking for is the entire conversation, and they aren't likely going to give notes on everything discussed.
Moving away from the preoccupation and back to the subject, what's the real issue here? The wording, or the interaction? Seems to me there's a great deal of implied conspiracy over it, when it's not likely many people were even depending on that minute amount of Damage. It was a bug, that's about all that really matters concerning it. We can speculate on the wording and what that implies for situations, but that's a given. If there's a bug or unintended interaction, they will fix it if they can.
First off it was never called out as bug in the year or so Corvus has been around. Pulling that "they're just fixing a bug" is nonsense. Second you've said how many times in the inevitable agreement with the decision "but never trumps always", well the node on YJ is the highest percentage chance to glance at 85%, Corvus crits at 100% rate, you can do the math there, at least you might be able to. So by the number Corvus shouldn't trigger glancing at all while his GUARANTEED crits are active.
Pretty sure Micro Reflect hasn't been around for a year.
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As it stands... Kabam got you exactly where they want, all of you...
This game, is just getting ridiculous, the nodes are getting harder, the new champs are OP and complicated, the rewards are not increasing.... seems like I am waking up, Kabam is Machavelious.... we are all condemned to either take out our Credit Card in this game if we want to progress and have fun at a certain level of challenge or just... quit the game by being fed up of this non-sense.
I am starting to feel that Kabam thinks I am an idiot.... really... This is where this game is now.... we either put up with their slick money grabing sheems... or we dont and Quit the game... They don’t care, someone else will take our place.
So this was my idea for champion fight , as you can see I still timed out , and on day fight will likely time out multiple times, for ultron I used stark, and my intercept game was on point (while he was fully unblockable)
Barely plays the game, doesn't understand it, ruins every thread he posts in, very little logic and reasoning, single handedly prevents important issues from being fixed with his nonsense, and yet remains untouched by the mods.
Meanwhile every other player who funds college for every Kabam employee's kid is getting treated like dirt. This board man...
Comments like that are probably contributing to why you're in jail. We're not here to call other people out, or make things personal, or spread conspiracies, or anything else as equally-unproductive. We're here to discuss the game. That involves having a respectful debate which focuses on the subject and not making targets of other people. There are rules to the Forum. We ALL have to adhere to them. If you're receiving infractions, you're responsible for your own. I've had my own and been responsible for those. Regardless of whether you like the person debating with you, you're still the one typing. So far, all I've done is discuss the subject. Not once have I made it personal. That's on you.
Barely plays the game, doesn't understand it, ruins every thread he posts in, very little logic and reasoning, single handedly prevents important issues from being fixed with his nonsense, and yet remains untouched by the mods.
Meanwhile every other player who funds college for every Kabam employee's kid is getting treated like dirt. This board man...
I don’t think people or mods or admins on this forum get jokes There’s was a thread that was “thoughts on invisible woman” I said “invisible woman big gay” I got jailed for attacking a player Excuse me How
Comments like that are probably contributing to why you're in jail. We're not here to call other people out, or make things personal, or spread conspiracies, or anything else as equally-unproductive. We're here to discuss the game. That involves having a respectful debate which focuses on the subject and not making targets of other people. There are rules to the Forum. We ALL have to adhere to them. If you're receiving infractions, you're responsible for your own. I've had my own and been responsible for those. Regardless of whether you like the person debating with you, you're still the one typing. So far, all I've done is discuss the subject. Not once have I made it personal. That's on you.
No offense But ur way too serious that’s probably why everyone is always calling u out or sh!tying on u That’s at least why I kind of do it
Comments like that are probably contributing to why you're in jail. We're not here to call other people out, or make things personal, or spread conspiracies, or anything else as equally-unproductive. We're here to discuss the game. That involves having a respectful debate which focuses on the subject and not making targets of other people. There are rules to the Forum. We ALL have to adhere to them. If you're receiving infractions, you're responsible for your own. I've had my own and been responsible for those. Regardless of whether you like the person debating with you, you're still the one typing. So far, all I've done is discuss the subject. Not once have I made it personal. That's on you.
When you're THIS naive about how most people perceive you on this forum, there's no sense trying to get through to you.
By all means, continue ruining discussing every topic you get your hands on.
Comments like that are probably contributing to why you're in jail. We're not here to call other people out, or make things personal, or spread conspiracies, or anything else as equally-unproductive. We're here to discuss the game. That involves having a respectful debate which focuses on the subject and not making targets of other people. There are rules to the Forum. We ALL have to adhere to them. If you're receiving infractions, you're responsible for your own. I've had my own and been responsible for those. Regardless of whether you like the person debating with you, you're still the one typing. So far, all I've done is discuss the subject. Not once have I made it personal. That's on you.
No offense But ur way too serious that’s probably why everyone is always calling u out or sh!tying on u That’s at least why I kind of do it
I don't have to know why you do it. I don't care. It's not allowed, so I don't do it. That's all I have to know. Why is irrelevant, really. However, when someone implies it's my fault people are getting in trouble, I'm going to point out that people are responsible for their own actions.
Comments like that are probably contributing to why you're in jail. We're not here to call other people out, or make things personal, or spread conspiracies, or anything else as equally-unproductive. We're here to discuss the game. That involves having a respectful debate which focuses on the subject and not making targets of other people. There are rules to the Forum. We ALL have to adhere to them. If you're receiving infractions, you're responsible for your own. I've had my own and been responsible for those. Regardless of whether you like the person debating with you, you're still the one typing. So far, all I've done is discuss the subject. Not once have I made it personal. That's on you.
When you're THIS naive about how most people perceive you on this forum, there's no sense trying to get through to you.
By all means, continue ruining discussing every topic you get your hands on.
Comments
Only, they don't change things without good reason. The explanation may not be as thorough as people like at times, but they don't make alterations on a whim. Not unless they're forced by some game-breaking situation, and even then, the choice is done with the least amount of damage possible.
They describe it as a bug, and have fixed it so that Micro Reflect will only reflect regular Damage. That's about all that matters on our end. We can't control their thought processes.
Not controlling thought processes
Don’t put words in other people’s mouthes
Actually don't. We've had enough of word salad and irrelevant nonsensical ramblings.
Every ability can be described as a can or cannot ,so the rules of this game are made without reason and we don't want a game like that.
Every ability is at stake here, not just Corvus.
If the devs/whoever at kabam were more clear and better at describing how interactions like this would work in game there would not be threads like this where the players take it upon themselves to interpret the rules.
As it stands... Kabam got you exactly where they want, all of you...
This game, is just getting ridiculous, the nodes are getting harder, the new champs are OP and complicated, the rewards are not increasing.... seems like I am waking up, Kabam is Machavelious.... we are all condemned to either take out our Credit Card in this game if we want to progress and have fun at a certain level of challenge or just... quit the game by being fed up of this non-sense.
I am starting to feel that Kabam thinks I am an idiot.... really... This is where this game is now.... we either put up with their slick money grabing sheems... or we dont and Quit the game... They don’t care, someone else will take our place.
My 2 cents.
wonder about the point of this forum sometimes
Meanwhile every other player who funds college for every Kabam employee's kid is getting treated like dirt. This board man...
There are rules to the Forum. We ALL have to adhere to them. If you're receiving infractions, you're responsible for your own. I've had my own and been responsible for those. Regardless of whether you like the person debating with you, you're still the one typing.
So far, all I've done is discuss the subject. Not once have I made it personal. That's on you.
There’s was a thread that was “thoughts on invisible woman”
I said “invisible woman big gay”
I got jailed for attacking a player
Excuse me
How
But ur way too serious that’s probably why everyone is always calling u out or sh!tying on u
That’s at least why I kind of do it
By all means, continue
ruiningdiscussing every topic you get your hands on.Might wanna stop