Also I don't understand why people are complaining about how difficult it is. Sure it's difficult if you wanna do it now but just like ROL won't it eventually become a little easier to do when they release more champs, masteries and mastery points?
Everyone thought with ROL the only way to beat it was with Star-Lord. Before Guillotine this may have been true although with Wolverine maybe you could have used Scarlet Witch or Dr. Strange. However as time went on more and more people found that they could do it with anyone, cause the harder content and challenges prepared them for ROL. I did it recently with Wolverine, Guillotine, 3* Cyclops (New School), Storm and Magneto.
My point is that anyone who wants LOL changed in some way should probably just wait till more champs come out. Have we reached the "future" in where no matter what it'll cost you tens of thousands of units to do or is it still to early to do and people are just doing it for the challenge as to not be bored with the game?
What about doing LOL with Iceman or Archangel? Just want to know what people think of those options.
I agree to some extend with you. My only complain are the rewards from 2 to 7. I am curious to know how many odins he used to 100 percent with magik. Do you have any idea?
Iceman might be good only for abomination and guillotine.
As far as Archangel he is a heavy hitter. He is very viable, still way more expensive than SL.
I'm not sure he did 100% it. I just go on YouTube and someone has live CoC stream and I watch for a bit. Usually it goes on to early morning and I'm tired from working the dinner shift.
Your perspective is ok and i respectfully disagree with you. The rewards are not a bargain with a 4 star. 25 to 30 Odins? No thanks. I did complete one path with one champ different from SL and it was absurd how hard it was.
I am talking from experience. 5 star champs instead of 4 star is relevant. It is an upgrade compared to what you get. Paths 2 to 7 it is just laughable. You get 1 signature stone and a 4 star? That does not make sense to the level of difficulty.
It you are satisfied with the rewards good for you. But i know for fact many people find absolutely ridiculous to get a 4 star and a signature stone.
Well if you look at the very best offers kabam has put out for 5* stars and class catalysts for units it is a bargain even if it doesn't seem that way. Even I don't personally see it as worth it for the 60k+ units it would take to complete with a 4star but if you look just at the face value it is unarguably a bargain. The common 5 star unit deal for 10K 5* shards is 10K units times 6.5 is 65k units so the shards alone are technically equal to the cost of LOL with a 4 star even without all the catalysts each of which generously is 1.5k unit each. I didn't say the rewards are satisfactory I said there is lots of room for improvement but 5 star ronan, clops and rhino are not the rewards people who can 100% complete LOL would find useful. I agree there should be rewards for each path cleared something like 5K 5* shards would be much more in tune to the difficulty. You bring up decent points with the rewards of LOL but you have failed to accept the fallacy of your other arguments such as the original topic of the thread which is the removal of limber and the restrictions to most champion's ability to complete the content. We seem to be in similar spots in game where we both completed the first path of LOL and are looking to 100% but since our views on the content are so split I'd like to see what other arguments you have to support your claims as it seems I have countered and addressed each of your current arguments in my above post while you have failed to do so with any of mine.
I did a path with a 4 star and it was painful Sungj.i understand your persoective. If we get 5 star shards every time we complete a path i will be satisfied.
I did a path with a 4 star and it was painful Sungj.i understand your persoective. If we get 5 star shards every time we complete a path i will be satisfied.
Same here cap I did it with 4* starlord and gwenpool and honestly for me it wasn't that bad. Limber wasn't a problem as I did not parry at all most fights and I grinded out a stupid amount of health potion(300+) in ROL in preparation. I just want to know why you feel limber should be removed from the labyrinth since it is actually a good mechanic in most fights to help us players improve our skill set. Juggernaut, thor and AV are yes very BS with the inclusion on limber but again with enough skill it is possible to play through these encounters with limber. As I said your argument that just becuase enrage and evade kill you in LOL limber should be removed because it also leads to you being killed is post hoc ergo propter hoc. You have all these ideas of buffs and nerfs to the game but the problem most of the community and I have is that you have little to no justification for these ideas, all of your arguments I've seen you give for many of your ideas are easily countered. I as well as most of the community want to keep these forums a helpful place for players who need a problem recognized or those who have good ideas to be heard but you and many other like you's constant posts and replies that are almost nonsensical are cluttering up the forums with ideas and opinions that spark great disagreement and lead to personal attacks, faulty arguments and a disorganized forum. If you took more time to think out your ideas and complaints to be constructive people would take you more seriously and not feel the need to flag or laugh at your posts
I really dont mind being flag. I respectfully express my opinion and I am neutral to the situation. Most people feel the need to personally attack when they disagree. I am not one of those.
I really dont mind being flag. I respectfully express my opinion and I am neutral to the situation. Most people feel the need to personally attack when they disagree. I am not one of those.
I know you don't mind it but I'm afraid you're not neutral, when you express your opinion and that opinion to the community and logically is wrong it creates upset that does no good for the player base. When you voice an opinion that majority is against and rightfully so you are no longer neutral and are in the wrong. All I and many others who enjoy going through the forums ask of you is to keep in mind that when you voice an opinion that is going to lead to disagreement is to have fact , logic and justification for that opinion so the post actually has healthy debate and reason to exist rather than being pointless, only existing to give you a little sense of worth to your opinions and cause upset in the community like most of your previous posts and responses.
Honestly dulled was the only thing that needed to be removed. I have 100% Lol. Yes some fights are a pain, but if you utilize any form of intercepting and getting the to their l1 to retialate you will be fine and not need to parry as often. Some fights u really can parry that much or at all like clops blue, vp, and a couple others. Some u don't want to parry at times. The only thing left that is really annoying in the labyrinth is the evade. Just consider it at times Kabam's way of making money.
I do think kabam should consider changing the rewards from the chest before maestro and the golden symbiod to better rewards. Depending on which path you take the golden symbiod rewards could be increasingly better if taken a more difficult path. Kabam could make this change and send a message to the players that have beat this content and gift them the difference. I also would consider doing more paths if there was a chance of more t2a, good amount of 5* shards, and so on.
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I agree to some extend with you. My only complain are the rewards from 2 to 7. I am curious to know how many odins he used to 100 percent with magik. Do you have any idea?
Iceman might be good only for abomination and guillotine.
As far as Archangel he is a heavy hitter. He is very viable, still way more expensive than SL.
Well if you look at the very best offers kabam has put out for 5* stars and class catalysts for units it is a bargain even if it doesn't seem that way. Even I don't personally see it as worth it for the 60k+ units it would take to complete with a 4star but if you look just at the face value it is unarguably a bargain. The common 5 star unit deal for 10K 5* shards is 10K units times 6.5 is 65k units so the shards alone are technically equal to the cost of LOL with a 4 star even without all the catalysts each of which generously is 1.5k unit each. I didn't say the rewards are satisfactory I said there is lots of room for improvement but 5 star ronan, clops and rhino are not the rewards people who can 100% complete LOL would find useful. I agree there should be rewards for each path cleared something like 5K 5* shards would be much more in tune to the difficulty. You bring up decent points with the rewards of LOL but you have failed to accept the fallacy of your other arguments such as the original topic of the thread which is the removal of limber and the restrictions to most champion's ability to complete the content. We seem to be in similar spots in game where we both completed the first path of LOL and are looking to 100% but since our views on the content are so split I'd like to see what other arguments you have to support your claims as it seems I have countered and addressed each of your current arguments in my above post while you have failed to do so with any of mine.
Same here cap I did it with 4* starlord and gwenpool and honestly for me it wasn't that bad. Limber wasn't a problem as I did not parry at all most fights and I grinded out a stupid amount of health potion(300+) in ROL in preparation. I just want to know why you feel limber should be removed from the labyrinth since it is actually a good mechanic in most fights to help us players improve our skill set. Juggernaut, thor and AV are yes very BS with the inclusion on limber but again with enough skill it is possible to play through these encounters with limber. As I said your argument that just becuase enrage and evade kill you in LOL limber should be removed because it also leads to you being killed is post hoc ergo propter hoc. You have all these ideas of buffs and nerfs to the game but the problem most of the community and I have is that you have little to no justification for these ideas, all of your arguments I've seen you give for many of your ideas are easily countered. I as well as most of the community want to keep these forums a helpful place for players who need a problem recognized or those who have good ideas to be heard but you and many other like you's constant posts and replies that are almost nonsensical are cluttering up the forums with ideas and opinions that spark great disagreement and lead to personal attacks, faulty arguments and a disorganized forum. If you took more time to think out your ideas and complaints to be constructive people would take you more seriously and not feel the need to flag or laugh at your posts
I know you don't mind it but I'm afraid you're not neutral, when you express your opinion and that opinion to the community and logically is wrong it creates upset that does no good for the player base. When you voice an opinion that majority is against and rightfully so you are no longer neutral and are in the wrong. All I and many others who enjoy going through the forums ask of you is to keep in mind that when you voice an opinion that is going to lead to disagreement is to have fact , logic and justification for that opinion so the post actually has healthy debate and reason to exist rather than being pointless, only existing to give you a little sense of worth to your opinions and cause upset in the community like most of your previous posts and responses.
I do think kabam should consider changing the rewards from the chest before maestro and the golden symbiod to better rewards. Depending on which path you take the golden symbiod rewards could be increasingly better if taken a more difficult path. Kabam could make this change and send a message to the players that have beat this content and gift them the difference. I also would consider doing more paths if there was a chance of more t2a, good amount of 5* shards, and so on.