Tier 3 AW nodes...in tier 4 war -perplexed-

Thought we didnt notice in 30 that we ranked up in the last war, but we are actually in tier 4 still but in the current war we just realized we're fighting with tier 3 nodes. Bleeding instead of enhaced bleed on 6, thorns on 36.

I'm not exactly familiar with how the weird matchmaking happens, but how does this explain? thanks :p

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  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Posts: 1,130
    If the alliance you are fighting is in the next tier up it can happen
  • MorganMorgan Posts: 259
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    If the alliance you are fighting is in the next tier up it can happen

    Afaik wasnt matchtmaking based on tiers? If that can happen that that's complete bullshit. Goodness gracious there's about what, 5 to 10 lower tiers using the same nodes as 4, and switching with higher ones basically screwed up the Whole war for us. Sure we were late to check, but we really only realized when we went for node 6.

    Such crap.
  • MorganMorgan Posts: 259
    Let's also add that the nodes during defense positioning were ofc tier 4, so we did display a defence wthout taking cont of the different nodes which would take place once war went into attack phase, which is absolutely bullshit.

    What does mods have to say in regard? cause we are absolutely unable to know the nodes will switch just as war start and we surely can't everytime position "hoping" it's tier 3 and not 4 or the opposite @Kabam Iko @Kabam Spice @Kabam Wolf @Kabam Miike
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Posts: 1,130
    An alliance the next tier up could have a war rating that's only s few points higher than yours. You won't always be the higher rated alliance if you don't have the exact same war rating
  • If you match with someone in a different tier then there is a 50/50 chance of which map you play on.
  • MorganMorgan Posts: 259
    If you match with someone in a different tier then there is a 50/50 chance of which map you play on.

    i dunno how legit this claim is but it's still bullshit.

    If the game shows us nodes and defense positioning as tier 4 there is no way for us to predict this happening hence all of our positioning basically gets screwed up by the change of nodes.

    For example, we have a spidey on node 36, unblockable l1, which is fine for tier 4, but switching to tier 3 we have now thorns on it, meaning any BW will literally roflstomp him cause, being a thorn node now, t'll be donw with a char in tier 4 you wouldn't bring on that line, or you rarely would (usually cap/vision/bleed immune, ie).

    On the other side, i cover the right path moving on the bleed immune node while a friend covers the line under the central. I move on node 2 while he moves passing by 6. But now 6 switched from 40% more bleed bonus to "100% bleed dmg over 60 seconds", making him unable to do the node due to not having bleed immunes as in tier 4 he wouldn't need any, and just need to not be bleeded out.

    Those alone are enough to screw up the normal paths we're used to make, and still there'll more to come. Considering also the enemy ally is 3m higher than us, it adds insult to injury.
  • MorganMorgan Posts: 259
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    An alliance the next tier up could have a war rating that's only s few points higher than yours. You won't always be the higher rated alliance if you don't have the exact same war rating

    Again, AFAIK matchmaking will alwais consider war tier first, and not war rating. There has been cases in the past of us on 1300 war rating facing a 2300+ war rating ally due to being in the same tier, more than once.

    All i take from this is that matchmaking is just riddiccolous.
  • DainslàifDainslàif Posts: 23
    edited August 13
    No. Matchmaking only considers War Rating and nothing else. If both alliance are in differrent tiers, there are indeed 50% chance the war can happen in one tier and not both.

    And in response to the 1300 vs 2300 War. That coule be due to the War Rooms Matching Schedule. It can't happen under normal circumstances.
  • DropfaithDropfaith Posts: 382
    Agreed everyone should have the same nodes there your issue is solved you can play the tier 1 map
  • MorganMorgan Posts: 259
    Dainslàif wrote: »
    No. Matchmaking only considers War Rating and nothing else. If both alliance are in differrent tiers, there are indeed 50% chance the war can happen in one tier and not both.

    And in response to the 1300 vs 2300 War. That coule be due to the War Rooms Matching Schedule. It can't happen under normal circumstances.

    I see, so there's actually a hole in the system. Cause basically we have been positioning on tier 4 nodes which switched in Attacks phase into tier 4, totally screwing up our strategy in both defense and offense path'ing.
    That's a pretty huge mistake on matchmaking, again considering the nodes have a huge chanche compared to the other tier. And positioning for tier 3 while having tofight tier 4 isn't as much penalizing.

    Overall we'll win, but it costed us in resources to cope up with a different positioning, and it's something which needs be fixed.
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