Her description says she evades all basic attacks when the opponent is under the effects of a concussion debuff however it does not say that she SHOULDN’T evade otherwise.
@Etjama Yes, I was talking about aar immunity for the opponent, as in concussion-debuff immunity.
Her description literally states that she will evade all basic attacks against opponents with a concussion. She actually should not evade aar immune champs like archangel.
She does, which I tested just now. According to just her description she shouldn't.
I'm not really a quake player, so I didn't know she evaded even without a concussion on her opponent and I'm certain she didn't always do that.
Seems like a bug imo.
First of all, thank you kind sir for proving my point and yeah, first time I went in on an Archangel with Quake, I tried the Quake'n Shake for the heck of it and was very surprised to see that she still evaded, but I'd rather the description be wrong instead of Kabam paying attention to it, then "fixing" it by making Quake practically worthless against AAR Immune champs.
Her description says she evades all basic attacks when the opponent is under the effects of a concussion debuff however it does not say that she SHOULDN’T evade otherwise.
Ait what? Shoot then all the champs should evade while charging heavies, after all it does not say otherwise!!!!
Doesn't matter if your opponent is immune to AAR, she evades anyways.
That's not correct. If your opponent is immune to all forms of aar they're also immune to concussion-debuffs (example: archangel). And she needs a concussion debuff on the opponent to even evade.
I feel the need to chime in here.... You don't need a concussion debuff to evade if you are charging a heavy... as is described here
You do:
Passive:
Evades all Basic Attacks against opponents with a Concussion.
You dont need the aftershock.
Okay this is kinda weird. I only mentioned this because I was 100% about both quakes description, which as shown above does require a concussion for her to evade, and because I was absolutely certain I had her evade not work against archangel with no other nodes involved quite some time ago.
I just tried it. Archangel did not have a concussion debuff, because he is immune, but she still evaded.
So... I mean... I think I digress? It shouldn't work according to her description, though.
Yeah, her description says that she evades when her opponent has a concussion debuff, but that's not exactly how it works. I'd rather not bring it up as it will probably be classified as Nerf-worthy by Kabam. And if he was awakened, he could've had a neurotoxin on you, reducing your AA causing you to fail in an evade.
Certainly not. It was me trying out quake after I pulled her like somewhere around the beginning of this year or so.
Standard archangel encounter. Parry at the start - charging heavy - getting slapped.
Now I can't prove that, so it's essentially worthless even mentioning lol. Just wanted to clarify that I didn't just jump to conclusions here, but rather based everything on her description and that memory of mine.
Sorry for the confusion.
Well I became a Quake player semi-recently, this interaction with AAR Immune champs could be new for all I know. No problem.
@Etjama Yes, I was talking about aar immunity for the opponent, as in concussion-debuff immunity.
Her description literally states that she will evade all basic attacks against opponents with a concussion. She actually should not evade aar immune champs like archangel.
She does, which I tested just now. According to just her description she shouldn't.
I'm not really a quake player, so I didn't know she evaded even without a concussion on her opponent and I'm certain she didn't always do that.
Seems like a bug imo.
First of all, thank you kind sir for proving my point and yeah, first time I went in on an Archangel with Quake, I tried the Quake'n Shake for the heck of it and was very surprised to see that she still evaded, but I'd rather the description be wrong instead of Kabam paying attention to it, then "fixing" it by making Quake practically worthless against AAR Immune champs.
I merely wanted to prove my own point and failed lmao.
No shame in admitting that imo. Just to clarify, though, she also works on debuff-immune opponents, I assume?
Maybe she evaded the restrictions set by her own ability sheet.
Yeah, still works against debuff immune, the stun not applying would be your biggest problem, but if you're skilled, you can get passed it. The weird thing about her with AAR/Debuff Immune champs is that the concussion on Aftershock detonation doesn't apply, so unless you're charging a heavy, she won't evade for those 5 seconds after. Seems like her ability description should say, "Can evade all basic attacks if charging a heavy or if Concussion is applied to the opponent."
Now to close off this discussion, M.O.D.O.K on Node 15 of AW Map 2 should not have any type of interaction with Quake that should cause her evade to fail, so this is either a bug, or a memory failure. My best guess is that you actually were under 18% health and your opponent had the Assassin's Mastery active as @Lvernon15 initially suggested and as @Lormif then clarified for me.
Now to close off this discussion, M.O.D.O.K on Node 15 of AW Map 2 should not have any type of interaction with Quake that should cause her evade to fail, so this is either a bug, or a memory failure. My best guess is that you actually were under 18% health and your opponent had the Assassin's Mastery active as @Lvernon15 initially suggested and as @Lormif then clarified for me.
I originally thought the same thing. I just assumed it was an error on my part. But it’s not the first time it’s happened and someone else posted the same issue happening to them so I figured I share my experience. Maybe it’s a bug, maybe not. I wish I had a video of this particular fight but I’ve learned even with video proof things rarely ever get fixed. It’s undortunate.
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