Suggestion to make Elsa more useful

Elsa is a pretty good champ with some nice utility, but I think there is one fatal flaw that inhibits her usefulness. Her abilities and counter evade on parry makes her a solid counter to Thing. Her sig amplifies her damage to L/XL champs and Science champs; Thing fits in both categories. She would be a great counter were it not for one important detail:

The Unfazed mastery in Alliance War.

I love using Elsa in quests, she's really fun to play with. But she is greatly hindered in Alliance War because of Unfazed. Many high tier alliances run Unfazed on defense to catch someone using Stark Spidey or Stealth Spidey off guard. Because of Unfazed, when she evades on Parry, the defender has a chance to go unstoppable. One unstoppable trigger against a 5/65 Thing (or any champ really) in war and you're dead. There is already a hard counter to this ability in True Strike and True Accuracy, so why does Unfazed have to render this ability useless as well? The final boss in AW is the only place she is viable, since there is True Strike on that node. But why even create a champ that is only useful when one of her defining characteristics is disabled?

I'd like to suggest making her usable against champions besides the final boss in war. Perhaps have her able to turn off the unfazed mastery, similar to how Warlock turns off the Salve mastery. It wouldn't make her a top champ or anything, but she'd be far more useful in one of the most important modes of the game.

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  • AnonymousPlayerAnonymousPlayer Member Posts: 22
    edited October 2019
    That is an option, but it would not work on debuff immune nodes. Being able to evade and counter when you can't parry because of stun/debuff immune is one of the best parts of this ability. This also gives her another ability (being able to apply slow debuff) that wasn't intended in her initial design. I think turning off the Unfazed mastery against her would be the best option.
  • Fred_JoeityFred_Joeity Member Posts: 1,168 ★★★
    I mean unfazed is kind of useless otherwise, so I don’t see much problem with it. Just try once and don’t attack to check if they have the mastery, then play accordingly
  • AnonymousPlayerAnonymousPlayer Member Posts: 22
    Elsa's counter hit is automatic and you'll get smacked in the face before you can back away. There's no way to check without getting hit, it's too big of a risk in high tier wars. I don't believe that this was intended since they have built her up to be such a strong Thing counter.
  • KalantakKalantak Member Posts: 1,300 ★★★★
    lets just say she is useless in higher tier wars or AW pretty much like 90% of champions in game. Like sentry he is one of the most OP champs in comics but in mcoc as our mods say its a separate universe,in this universe he has lesser power level then a racoon or someone fighting with Hairs or may b someone with really old guns
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Midnite93 said:

    Really detailed explanation you have given op didn't realise this. Only question is how exactly can kabam implement that ability into Elsa? Add a slow debuff like she hulk and spidergwen? Or something else to add in her kit?

    They could make her have a brief ability accuracy reduction for like half a second when she evades, and that would maybe give her a slight bit of extra viability for masochism aswell which I don’t think would hurt
  • Patchie93Patchie93 Member Posts: 1,898 ★★★★
    Or just don't parry? Play on intercepts which I believe is how a lot of high tier players play
  • AnonymousPlayerAnonymousPlayer Member Posts: 22
    @Patchie93 That beats the purpose of having such a unique ability, doesn’t it? I don’t believe Kabam created this character with the intent of her evade and counter ability being unusable in Alliance War. I may be wrong, but this is just a suggestion to the team.
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