Rogue - imagine how crazy she would be if..

007md92

She could copy -

Diamond form (emma)

Invisibility ( hood, invisible woman)

Plasma charge to increase her Spacial(havoc, bishop, Cyclops)

Freeze immunity ( iceman, vision arkus)

Incenerate immunity ( human torch, Hyperion, mephisto)


Just by inflicting each Spacial per fight.
For 15 hit combo then timer reset.
(Means once she gets stolen ability she can use them for 15 hits, after that cooldown again throw a spacial)

Thoughts?? I really think she is cool and could have been cooler. Play her in AQ map 5 all the time.

Colonaut123

That's not how she works. I think she can use better changes: holding buffs longer, buff copy for all special attacks,...

007md92

I am not saying how she works. But how she can work with a balance.
She can take physical and power properties from others.
She can also make other degenerate.

What u said about holding buff longer
I said the same thing with a creative mechanism. Holding the stolen buffs for 15 hit in her combo metre.

Don't just disagree without even given a slight consideration.

Colonaut123 said:

That's not how she works. I think she can use better changes: holding buffs longer, buff copy for all special attacks,...

007md92

How about champs with Spacial abilities and buffs from start of the fights loose them each time she gets touched or hit.

I mean emma would loose her diamond form just by hitting her.
And this ain't OP. A champ already break her diamond form all the time. Corvus.

LordRaymond3

Honestly if she just had like a 10 second timer instead of 5 she would be so much better. So many specials take longer than 5 seconds so they just fall off

StevieManWonder

It'd also be nice if she could: Replicate all buffs and Not stop powergain buffs from proccing after she replicates them. If you ever played Rogue against Hyperion, you'll see that when you replicate a power gain buff, he won't proc anymore until you lose yours. Very annoying.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

So, copy passive abilities, and not only buffs.
I don't see how that could happen, in the game perspetive. Unless it's something much more limited like power gain/fury/cruelty effects, for example. And even with that there would need to be more limitations, as not all effects have an icon shown in the screen

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Mirage_Turtle

StevieManWonder said:

It'd also be nice if she could: Replicate all buffs and Not stop powergain buffs from proccing after she replicates them. If you ever played Rogue against Hyperion, you'll see that when you replicate a power gain buff, he won't proc anymore until you lose yours. Very annoying.

This is how she is intended to work. If you copy a buff, the enemy is unable to gain that buff again until you lose yours.

Hammerbro_64

Wait Hyperion has incinerate immunity??? Why did I never learn this? I pulled him like a year ago and currently him duped and 5/65...

Evangelionlovr

Hype is not incinerate immune.

ms_5707983

Why do you insist upon "Spacial"? What gives? I want answers.

StevieManWonder

@Mirage_Turtle I know but she’ll be better if that wasn’t the case

Mirage_Turtle

StevieManWonder said:

@Mirage_Turtle I know but she’ll be better if that wasn’t the case

I respectfully disagree. While it's not ideal when you're fighting Hyperion that he starts gaining cosmic charges whenever he can't gain power gain buffs (this happens when you use him on fisticuffs as well), I'm not sure there are other cases where the opponent gains a benefit when they are unable to gain their buffs. This trait benefits her in countless other cases and only has a minor setback when fighting Hyperion.

And this "setback" is exceptionally minor. If he's not gaining power and you are, you can basically Spam the L2 to prevent him from ever getting to an L3, which is the biggest risk when fighting him and basically the only time where the cosmic charges will come into play.

Are there other examples I'm missing where it hinders Rogue to prevent the enemy from triggering stolen buffs?