Look, I don’t think I’m ever going to agree with you, and that’s okay.
But, Colossus is an honorable mention? The guy is a freaking tank. He’s immune to bleed, Incinerate, coldsnap, and frostbite. Plus, unless you’re fighting a tech champion, he will never have no armor breaks because he can’t get armor broken by any class other than tech. Plus, when he hits those high amounts of armor up, his damage goes ballistic. He’s so good, he can autofight Realm of Legends Winter Soldier.
Storm Pyramid X, on the other hand, is a glass cannon even without the mastery. Her damage is okay, but she has no crits at all. You will almost never see big yellow numbers. She also next to nothing in terms of utility, while colossus has the aforementioned immunities. I honestly don’t know how she’s so high for you. And don’t get me started on your cosmic class.
Look, If you aren’t going to respect other people’s opinions, then they aren’t going to respect yours.
Uhh... Storm has Shock and Coldsnap Immunities as well as a small bit of energy resistance for incinerate? And Colossus barely crits too lol. She also counters debuff shrug and masochism on her parries. Quirky but decent evade counter and coldsnap on sp1. Chance to stun on basic hits too. Not saying she is better than colossus but cmon now don't be THAT critical of the champion.
Just an honest question: have you tested all of these champions? I really can't fathom you rate Colossus, Scarlet Witch, CAIW and Medusa so low and Terrax, Mole Man, Nova and Deadpool X-Force so high.
(It may look like Seatin's, I used his as a template but made the whole list my own.)
Watch and learn OP. That's how you make a credible tier list.
@Etjama Overall I agree with your tier list, with some exceptions.
Mephisto: he's definitely Really Good Tier. Total shut-down of all buffs at the start of the fight for 30 seconds, good power gain, regen, AAR immunity, incinerate damage immune without debuff immunity, poison immunity and his aura damage can be increased via synergies. He's really not on par with Jane Foster. He was my MVP mystic for a long time.
Morningstar: she is good, but not good enough to stand next to Doctor Voodoo or Magik. Some love her, some don't. She is more on par with Ghost Rider. She has some interesting peculiarities, but for me the cumbersome way to ramp-up, the long unrewarding ramp-up, the lack of any nullify abilities and her reliance on her sig to be any decent makes her for me Really Good Tier.
Ebony Maw and Doctor Strange: they are not good champions, but making them on par with Iron Fist is not fair. Ebony Maw has good degen when ramped up and Doctor Strange still has some solid utility.
I would switch Bishop and Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler is an absolute beast with Havok synergy. I cannot think any synergy that warrants Bishop in the same spot as Mr. Sinister of X-23.
PS you forgot Psylocke and Rogue. They are definitely Solid Tier at least. I might even place Rogue as Really Good Tier, she has unique utility (debuff purification, buff copy, life steal, power steal) and has good synergies with CMM and Longshot.
(It may look like Seatin's, I used his as a template but made the whole list my own.)
This is a pretty good list! If you had to, from your Amazing Tier list for mutants, who would you rank as your top 3?
I pretty much have them in order of how I prefer them. In my personal opinion, it goes Omega, Colossus, Domino. But that's all subjective to an opinion, so even though I have it in order, I just want people to notice the tier placements.
(It may look like Seatin's, I used his as a template but made the whole list my own.)
Watch and learn OP. That's how you make a credible tier list.
@Etjama Overall I agree with your tier list, with some exceptions.
Mephisto: he's definitely Really Good Tier. Total shut-down of all buffs at the start of the fight for 30 seconds, good power gain, regen, AAR immunity, incinerate damage immune without debuff immunity, poison immunity and his aura damage can be increased via synergies. He's really not on par with Jane Foster. He was my MVP mystic for a long time.
Morningstar: she is good, but not good enough to stand next to Doctor Voodoo or Magik. Some love her, some don't. She is more on par with Ghost Rider. She has some interesting peculiarities, but for me the cumbersome way to ramp-up, the long unrewarding ramp-up, the lack of any nullify abilities and her reliance on her sig to be any decent makes her for me Really Good Tier.
Ebony Maw and Doctor Strange: they are not good champions, but making them on par with Iron Fist is not fair. Ebony Maw has good degen when ramped up and Doctor Strange still has some solid utility.
I would switch Bishop and Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler is an absolute beast with Havok synergy. I cannot think any synergy that warrants Bishop in the same spot as Mr. Sinister of X-23.
PS you forgot Psylocke and Rogue. They are definitely Solid Tier at least. I might even place Rogue as Really Good Tier, she has unique utility (debuff purification, buff copy, life steal, power steal) and has good synergies with CMM and Longshot.
Thanks for the love and feedback. I understand what you're saying and I think I might change up what you've suggested with the exception of Morningstar. When she's ramped up, she's a beats that dominates tons of Act 6 content. I know I had Rogue and Psylocke on there. I must've accidentally deleted them when editing. I'll make some changes.
There is a reason that not everyone makes their own tier list. I don't even trust myself to make a tier list. Not everyone has gotten to use certain champions in certain areas of the game. It is because of that we form our own natural bias about certain champions. For example: I've always thought Ghost is 100x better than Quake because of all the utility she brings to the table. That was, until I made an alt and got Quake as my first 4*. She absolutely carried me through the content I was doing and it made me realize how insanely good she is. Your list obviously comes from a lack of experience in the game for certain champions and I would say to attempt to learn as many champions as you can before making a tier list. Find where your own personal biases and question if it's because you enjoy playing the champion or because the champion is extremely good over all.
In general I dislike tier lists but this one needs ALOT of revision and op is being rude, receive criticism as it is helpful feedback.
Mutant Class - Omega Colossus Namor and Havok need to be higher while sabretooth needs to be lower why put platnium pool on the list when no one can test them.
Tech Class - Warlock is mid demi God??? Clearly you have never played with him, stark enchanced also needs to be higher while hulkbuster needs to be lower way too over hyped.
Cosmic Class- Aarkus needs to be taken down a tier or 2 same with VTD, Medusa is only rated as good??? That is completley wrong. Terrax is also horrible.
Mystic Class - Take Sorcer surpreme down a tier Ebony Maw is mid demi god tier while Magik is only Good??? also where is Scarlet Witch.
Science Class - Cap IW is only low demi god tier seriosly??? Human Torch and Void need to be taken up one and She hulk and Cap IW. Modok is better than red hulk and luke cage??? heck no
Skill Class - Nick Fury needs to be taken up a tier Blade and NT also need to be taken up a couple tiers. Same with Killmonger I could go on for a bunch more on what needs to be changed but these are some main points.
Perosonal Preferces are ok but a bunch of this is just completley wrong , like I said this is Helpful feedback @ON420SUCKS
I’m sorry but that is one of the most questionable tier list I’ve seen. It’s your opinions but I challenge your grasp of the game with the placements on that list.
Serious question. Have you played with all of these champions or at least the majority of these champs.
I value difference of opinion but when terrax and mole man are ranked above Cap IW/colossus/Magik/MS etc. When cap IW is equal to SENTRY, Moleman is above blade/night thrasher/gwenpool and then ebony maw is above Magik and MS I just cannot take it serious.
Again glad to see difference of opinions but seriously I would urge you to take a look at some of those champs you have ranked so lower that are typically way higher. They can be very useful and I don’t think you have grasped how to use them. Many game changers you are undervaluing that can really help you on that list.
(It may look like Seatin's, I used his as a template but made the whole list my own.)
Watch and learn OP. That's how you make a credible tier list.
@Etjama Overall I agree with your tier list, with some exceptions.
Mephisto: he's definitely Really Good Tier. Total shut-down of all buffs at the start of the fight for 30 seconds, good power gain, regen, AAR immunity, incinerate damage immune without debuff immunity, poison immunity and his aura damage can be increased via synergies. He's really not on par with Jane Foster. He was my MVP mystic for a long time.
Morningstar: she is good, but not good enough to stand next to Doctor Voodoo or Magik. Some love her, some don't. She is more on par with Ghost Rider. She has some interesting peculiarities, but for me the cumbersome way to ramp-up, the long unrewarding ramp-up, the lack of any nullify abilities and her reliance on her sig to be any decent makes her for me Really Good Tier.
Ebony Maw and Doctor Strange: they are not good champions, but making them on par with Iron Fist is not fair. Ebony Maw has good degen when ramped up and Doctor Strange still has some solid utility.
I would switch Bishop and Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler is an absolute beast with Havok synergy. I cannot think any synergy that warrants Bishop in the same spot as Mr. Sinister of X-23.
PS you forgot Psylocke and Rogue. They are definitely Solid Tier at least. I might even place Rogue as Really Good Tier, she has unique utility (debuff purification, buff copy, life steal, power steal) and has good synergies with CMM and Longshot.
Thanks for the love and feedback. I understand what you're saying and I think I might change up what you've suggested with the exception of Morningstar. When she's ramped up, she's a beats that dominates tons of Act 6 content. I know I had Rogue and Psylocke on there. I must've accidentally deleted them when editing. I'll make some changes.
Yeah, Morningstar is good in very very long fights. But for the rest of the game not so much. From all of the ramp-up champions, she is the worst.
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I know many will disagree with me for placing Wolverine, SW and both tech Visions in low tiers, but that's fine by me.
@Etjama
Overall I agree with your tier list, with some exceptions.
Mephisto: he's definitely Really Good Tier. Total shut-down of all buffs at the start of the fight for 30 seconds, good power gain, regen, AAR immunity, incinerate damage immune without debuff immunity, poison immunity and his aura damage can be increased via synergies. He's really not on par with Jane Foster. He was my MVP mystic for a long time.
Morningstar: she is good, but not good enough to stand next to Doctor Voodoo or Magik. Some love her, some don't. She is more on par with Ghost Rider. She has some interesting peculiarities, but for me the cumbersome way to ramp-up, the long unrewarding ramp-up, the lack of any nullify abilities and her reliance on her sig to be any decent makes her for me Really Good Tier.
Ebony Maw and Doctor Strange: they are not good champions, but making them on par with Iron Fist is not fair. Ebony Maw has good degen when ramped up and Doctor Strange still has some solid utility.
I would switch Bishop and Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler is an absolute beast with Havok synergy. I cannot think any synergy that warrants Bishop in the same spot as Mr. Sinister of X-23.
PS you forgot Psylocke and Rogue. They are definitely Solid Tier at least. I might even place Rogue as Really Good Tier, she has unique utility (debuff purification, buff copy, life steal, power steal) and has good synergies with CMM and Longshot.
Mutant Class - Omega Colossus Namor and Havok need to be higher while sabretooth needs to be lower why put platnium pool on the list when no one can test them.
Tech Class - Warlock is mid demi God??? Clearly you have never played with him, stark enchanced also needs to be higher while hulkbuster needs to be lower way too over hyped.
Cosmic Class- Aarkus needs to be taken down a tier or 2 same with VTD, Medusa is only rated as good??? That is completley wrong. Terrax is also horrible.
Mystic Class - Take Sorcer surpreme down a tier Ebony Maw is mid demi god tier while Magik is only Good??? also where is Scarlet Witch.
Science Class - Cap IW is only low demi god tier seriosly??? Human Torch and Void need to be taken up one and She hulk and Cap IW. Modok is better than red hulk and luke cage??? heck no
Skill Class - Nick Fury needs to be taken up a tier Blade and NT also need to be taken up a couple tiers. Same with Killmonger I could go on for a bunch more on what needs to be changed but these are some main points.
Perosonal Preferces are ok but a bunch of this is just completley wrong , like I said this is Helpful feedback @ON420SUCKS
Serious question. Have you played with all of these champions or at least the majority of these champs.
I value difference of opinion but when terrax and mole man are ranked above Cap IW/colossus/Magik/MS etc. When cap IW is equal to SENTRY, Moleman is above blade/night thrasher/gwenpool and then ebony maw is above Magik and MS I just cannot take it serious.
Again glad to see difference of opinions but seriously I would urge you to take a look at some of those champs you have ranked so lower that are typically way higher. They can be very useful and I don’t think you have grasped how to use them. Many game changers you are undervaluing that can really help you on that list.
But as I said, some love her some hate her.