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Posing no defense in new AW

TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
in General Discussion
Since there is no more Defense kill points, and explorations points has been decreased and attack kill points increased what about not posing defenders, or a little but not fill the map with it ?

Can be a good idea to deny points of the opponents
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  • TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
    ChunkerButtM8 wrote: »
    Interesting and very valid question. Would be terrible if that was a winning tactic. Hopefully alabama have engineered it to work that way. But...maybe they have...


    Not trying to being mean, but Kabam could totally haven't though about that.
    And if they haven't this might be the end of defenser for AW
  • BornBorn Posts: 228 ★★
    If both teams place no defence and both explore 100%, wouldn't that mean a tie for both teams? I may be wrong but I think a tie equals a loss for both teams. With no defence there is 0 points for defender rating and diversity, as well as attacker kills. So all would be equal at the end.
  • TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
    Born wrote: »
    If both teams place no defence and both explore 100%, wouldn't that mean a tie for both teams? I may be wrong but I think a tie equals a loss for both teams. With no defence there is 0 points for defender rating and diversity, as well as attacker kills. So all would be equal at the end.

    The team with the highest PI champs for attack will win I guess since it count as points
  • BornBorn Posts: 228 ★★
    TKal wrote: »
    Born wrote: »
    If both teams place no defence and both explore 100%, wouldn't that mean a tie for both teams? I may be wrong but I think a tie equals a loss for both teams. With no defence there is 0 points for defender rating and diversity, as well as attacker kills. So all would be equal at the end.

    The team with the highest PI champs for attack will win I guess since it count as points

    Is that a new thing? Attacker rating has never given points.
  • TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
    Born wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Born wrote: »
    If both teams place no defence and both explore 100%, wouldn't that mean a tie for both teams? I may be wrong but I think a tie equals a loss for both teams. With no defence there is 0 points for defender rating and diversity, as well as attacker kills. So all would be equal at the end.

    The team with the highest PI champs for attack will win I guess since it count as points

    Is that a new thing? Attacker rating has never given points.

    Oh I though they did.
    My bad on that

  • Dave_the_destroyerDave_the_destroyer Posts: 981 ★★
    Variety points? Or is this only for defenders in AW?
  • BornBorn Posts: 228 ★★
    Dave_the_destroyer wrote: »
    Variety points? Or is this only for defenders in AW?

    There is defender diversity points with the new update if that's what you're referring to. But yea that's only if you place a defence.
  • AppleisgodAppleisgod Posts: 1,420 ★★★★
    Well you would always need place atleast 1 defender so the rating of those defenders and the diversity would be the tiebreaker
  • Dave_the_destroyerDave_the_destroyer Posts: 981 ★★
    I think the OP could have come up with a massive glitch to the new system! This makes sense, wonder if anyone will try it?
  • TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
    Appleisgod wrote: »
    Well you would always need place atleast 1 defender so the rating of those defenders and the diversity would be the tiebreaker

    But if you place one and the other alliance none, you should loose due to the kill points that the other alliance has
  • AppleisgodAppleisgod Posts: 1,420 ★★★★
    TKal wrote: »
    Appleisgod wrote: »
    Well you would always need place atleast 1 defender so the rating of those defenders and the diversity would be the tiebreaker

    But if you place one and the other alliance none, you should loose due to the kill points that the other alliance has

    You can't place no defenders
  • Dave_the_destroyerDave_the_destroyer Posts: 981 ★★
    Appleisgod wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Appleisgod wrote: »
    Well you would always need place atleast 1 defender so the rating of those defenders and the diversity would be the tiebreaker

    But if you place one and the other alliance none, you should loose due to the kill points that the other alliance has

    You can't place no defenders

    Double negative! Means that you really mean that we can!!

    Ok, then what if you just place 1 defender, would that work?
  • AppleisgodAppleisgod Posts: 1,420 ★★★★
    Dave_the_destroyer wrote: »
    Appleisgod wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Appleisgod wrote: »
    Well you would always need place atleast 1 defender so the rating of those defenders and the diversity would be the tiebreaker

    But if you place one and the other alliance none, you should loose due to the kill points that the other alliance has

    You can't place no defenders

    Double negative! Means that you really mean that we can!!

    Ok, then what if you just place 1 defender, would that work?

    I've already answered that just scroll up
  • Mcord11758Mcord11758 Posts: 1,249 ★★★★
    Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points
  • TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
    Mcord11758 wrote: »
    Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points

    No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
    Two different things

  • Mcord11758Mcord11758 Posts: 1,249 ★★★★
    Hmm interesting. Would be hilarious if this pans out
  • BigdogbobBigdogbob Posts: 125 ★
    TKal wrote: »
    Mcord11758 wrote: »
    Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points

    No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
    Two different things

    Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.
  • Jon8299Jon8299 Posts: 1,067 ★★★
    TKal wrote: »
    Since there is no more Defense kill points, and explorations points has been decreased and attack kill points increased what about not posing defenders, or a little but not fill the map with it ?

    Can be a good idea to deny points of the opponents

    Actually they decreased the exploration points because the map is bigger, but it could work out to be roughly the same overall with the 2 maps.
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 508 ★★★
    Very interesting op
  • Awesomeness44Awesomeness44 Posts: 139
    What if it's not possible to 100% the new map?
  • Jon8299Jon8299 Posts: 1,067 ★★★
    Awesomeness44 wrote: »
    What if it's not possible to 100% the new map?

    Well then, hopefully the other alliance is having more trouble with the defense and map as well
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 508 ★★★
    Awesomeness44 wrote: »
    What if it's not possible to 100% the new map?

    In top tier, they will complete the map
  • ImmortalImmortal Posts: 323 ★★
    This will indeed be a war of skills then !! Sweet!
  • MegaVoltsMegaVolts Posts: 114 ★
    On the previous wars, when we placed fewer defense and the enemy has more defense, we scored more because we have higher attacker kills. The enemy obv scored less even if they 100pc the map bcos they had less kills. But it gets compensated by their defensive kills.

    So now if defensive kill point is gone, it totally makes sense to place fewer defense, so ur opponent has no chance to get points from their attacker kills.
  • TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
    Bigdogbob wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Mcord11758 wrote: »
    Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points

    No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
    Two different things

    Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.

    Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.

  • VoluntarisVoluntaris Posts: 1,198 ★★★
    TKal wrote: »
    Bigdogbob wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Mcord11758 wrote: »
    Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points

    No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
    Two different things

    Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.

    Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.

    to elaborate, in AW 1.0, attacker kills = 50 points, tile exploration = 450 points
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 508 ★★★
    Voluntaris wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Bigdogbob wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Mcord11758 wrote: »
    Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points

    No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
    Two different things

    Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.

    Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.

    to elaborate, in AW 1.0, attacker kills = 50 points, tile exploration = 450 points

    You are correct, however they mentioned they will increase the amount of attack points. So this could be a win for our wallets if alliances start agreeing to place no defense.
  • Jon8299Jon8299 Posts: 1,067 ★★★
    Anonymous wrote: »
    Voluntaris wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Bigdogbob wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Mcord11758 wrote: »
    Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points

    No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
    Two different things

    Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.

    Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.

    to elaborate, in AW 1.0, attacker kills = 50 points, tile exploration = 450 points

    You are correct, however they mentioned they will increase the amount of attack points. So this could be a win for our wallets if alliances start agreeing to place no defense.

    How can you agree? They removed who you're facing before the attack phase starts, since people were having fun with 2* wars and some were lied to causing them to lose badly.
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