rework older champs?

good day guys I've never posted here before for many reasons. but this time I think I should say something. looking at how much this game has grown is impressive to say the least. I remember facing thanos in act 3 years back with my 3 star BP IF storm and cap. no ww2 back then. looking at the content these days and champ abilities. I never thought it would take me 20 minutes to read and fully understand a champ. I feel that with everything kabam has added to the game they seem to have forgotten about the old faithful champs. after diminishing returns were introduced champs like IF might as well only have 1 armor break. as there is no difference between 2 and 6 armor breaks. yes it is fair to ensure that players do not stack up synergies making their champs way more powerful than intended,and yes it worked. but the down side of this hurt things like pure skill iron fist even spider gwen. (although no one uses her). I strongly feel we owe it to our original rosters to have kabam focus solely on making older champs more viable maybe give IF a small attack increase per armor break active? allow abomination to inflict poison on specials making him a a viable attacker. allowing spider gwen sp1 to apply a armor break lasting 20 seconds perhaps? giving black bolt the ability to stack up permanent buffs without getting hit. perhaps throw in some abilities like power control with specific attacks like heavy or sp1 or 2..allow Dr strange to heal a similar amount to ghost rider.. look at gwenpool. kabam stated that they do not want God tier champs. some would be better than others but not by a big margin. so let's take blaine-90 s antman 455 into lol and see how many hits it takes him to do the 1st 2 fights.. then let's take seatins gwenpool and do the same 2 fights.. balanced game u say? I'm not ranting or venting.. I'd like to give my input because I feel it's nessesary that the player base can get what I feel they deserve. please dnt forget the original champs. I literally look at iron fists ability screen and I dnt need to scroll down. it's that short. he can literally hit and block... now if any kabam support is reading this... I am not implying that great champs like voodoo gwenpool hyperion mordo magik sw sl rogue ghost rider should be nerfed. not at all. however if u genuinely want a happy player base then atleast try to make time to relook at older champs to push them on par with newer champs. we all have our favourites. make them viable again. anyone feel that their original hero got neglected I the game?

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  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    ... New heroes have taken 1,2 abilities of old champions and drastically improved them making the older obsolete....

    And carnage still has nothing going for him.
  • SpiritOfVengeanceSpiritOfVengeance Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★
    Venom too if his son carnage is getting a buff he should too just copying buffs and tiny bleeds which are low chance is very underwhelming.
  • tsek_kabamx10tsek_kabamx10 Member Posts: 7
    agreed to above. kabam you must've released carnage like that on purpose just to upset the community.
  • NyaleNyale Member Posts: 136
    Kabam forgot this is a Marvel game and we are entitled to like even older released champs like poor Magneto for example or Deadpool
  • KhanMedinaKhanMedina Member Posts: 927 ★★★
    BP is so useless with GP around now.
    Need to revamp their abilities and synergies asap
  • NyaleNyale Member Posts: 136
    Just started on Marvel Future Fight btw and oh boy do they have it right .Dr Strange, Magneto and Jean Grey are bosses there not the heroes u want to sell for shards like here
  • WorkingAsIntendedWorkingAsIntended Member Posts: 164 ★★
    This needs to be way more intensified and kabam needs to come to action on this quickly. So many useless garbage tier champs. That people make fun of your champs to the point they say 5* trash cans? As a company I would be irate and want to remedy this immediately. I mean how hard is it to look at all the champs nobody gives a rats arse about ? You can't be like hey bp does bleed has vibranium suit with claws which in the comics is a really strong metal think caps shield and he can't be versatile enough to do bleed and armor break?

    Colossus have him not only gain armor up but dmg from strikes while his armor up is a five not just specials. Maybe an unstoppable?

    Magneto this dude is ridiculously powerful in mutant comics. Every single champ in game in for the most part human. You can produce very low amount of iron in your body magneto can take that from your body and rip it out. Not saying that's what he should do in game but any kind of metal he should manipulate. He should get a concussion type evade from projectiles or simply dodge them like dd. Gamora sword should simple not proc assassination and the dmg should be mitigated.

    Just some small thought processing and updating old champs to useful would go along way. People used to be hate hulk love him same with punisher and ws now we begin to use them and don't dread pulling them as a 4-5-6* champ.
  • YellsomeYellsome Member Posts: 485
    I agree wid this post but u really shouldn't waste your time doing this coz kabam gonnna do nothing to ur requests..i too have been requesting buffs for loki and gambit but no responses till now..so I feel u bro
  • YellsomeYellsome Member Posts: 485
    This needs to be way more intensified and kabam needs to come to action on this quickly. So many useless garbage tier champs. That people make fun of your champs to the point they say 5* trash cans? As a company I would be irate and want to remedy this immediately. I mean how hard is it to look at all the champs nobody gives a rats arse about ? You can't be like hey bp does bleed has vibranium suit with claws which in the comics is a really strong metal think caps shield and he can't be versatile enough to do bleed and armor break?

    Colossus have him not only gain armor up but dmg from strikes while his armor up is a five not just specials. Maybe an unstoppable?

    Magneto this dude is ridiculously powerful in mutant comics. Every single champ in game in for the most part human. You can produce very low amount of iron in your body magneto can take that from your body and rip it out. Not saying that's what he should do in game but any kind of metal he should manipulate. He should get a concussion type evade from projectiles or simply dodge them like dd. Gamora sword should simple not proc assassination and the dmg should be mitigated.

    Just some small thought processing and updating old champs to useful would go along way. People used to be hate hulk love him same with punisher and ws now we begin to use them and don't dread pulling them as a 4-5-6* champ.

    Take injustice for example..there I would not call a single hero a trash can..there...heroes have their own uses and no one is called trash
  • Josh2712Josh2712 Member Posts: 21
    At the 12.0 update they made a huge deal about 'evening out the champs'. Would LOVE to see this actually put into action. Someone used the perfect example above - why even bother having an og Black panther when there's a Gwenpool around? There's literally no reason right now to play BP if u have a Gwenpool. He's one of my fav characters and he's completely dead weight.
    Can u at least tell us kabam if there's plans for any upgrades like this? Anything at all?
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,973 ★★★★★
    Great post. I couldn't agree more. New heroes have taken 1,2 abilities of old champions and drastically improved them making the older obsolete. Small example is AV & king pin. They both have a chance to shrug off debuffs but av stops there while kingpin increases attack and power gain.

    I agree:
    Make Cable bleed and take 400% Attack damage. Make Abomination bleed and take about 60% Attack damage of you aren't immune to poison. Sure, poison stacks but you'd need right stacks to have the same effect.

    Kingpin has the ability (unawakened) to throw off 50% of debuffs and turn them into a permanent Rage passive (which lasts forever and can't be nullified); whilst Crossbones needs to be Awakened to have a maximum 20% chance to turn debuffs into a temporary Fury buff that can be nullified.

    Nightcrawler (unawakened) has a base 15 % passive evade, instant bleed effects and stacks Cruelty. OG Spiderman has zero passive evade, and a halfway decent armour break. Nothing. Nada.

    King of armour break Thor 'tears apart' armour when (Awakened) he stuns, causing around 2300 max reduction for 7.5s. Sure it stacks twice, but Gwenpool's SP3 inflicts 5100 armour damage for 15 seconds, and reapplies if the opponent is blessing.

    Still, I'm sure they're all balanced equally...
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