Does Black Bolt really have to receive damage from his second special attack?

Honestly I think Black Bolt could be much better. I don't think that the damage and effects caused by his second special attack is worthy to sacrifice 5% of his health. I think this penalty is totally unnecessary and removing it will not unbalance the game.

In case you don't want to remove the penalty, at least make it worthy, increasing and improving the damage and effects caused by his second special attack.

Comments

Magrailothos

This health loss was put into Black Bolt's design long before Masteries, with an unspecified damage increase - essentially it was a one-man precursor to Recoil.

His Specials were also ramped up recently with the addition of Armour Break.

Personally, I think it's actually now reasonable; but I don't run suicides. If I did, and had an extra 5 % health loss to Recoil, it would seem too much.

I think the bigger issue for BB is that his Sig is very poor; as you only get permanent buffs if you get hit a lot, they can be nullified or are lost from one fight to the next. Compare that to Hulk's Sig which escalates steadily; and lasts from one fight to the next.

Why not redesign Provocation, so that (for example) it is health-related; and increases Special damage and Stun duration with lost health?

vinniegainz

New medusa synergy is awesome for BB sig

Yellsome

I think u should change the poll options to should take damage and should not take damage..the poll Is confusing

Jon8299

Actually the health loss was something new that came well after masteries was released. Before he only had Stun on his S1 I believe and his Provocation sig. After he got temporary buffs when attacks. Now ge has armor break.

Magrailothos

Jon8299 wrote: »

Actually the health loss was something new that came well after masteries was released. Before he only had Stun on his S1 I believe and his Provocation sig. After he got temporary buffs when attacks. Now he has armor break.

I'm afraid not, my friend. Black Bolt got his own personal Recoil in Patch 1.1 - months before Masteries came in Patch 3.0.

You can read all about it here:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/11/marvel-contest-of-champions-changelog/p1

Or the pertinent information is:

1.1 Patch Notes - Originally from 01-23-2015

Special Attacks:
Many heroes have received updates to their special attacks:
• Black Bolt's Corkscrew: +25% damage, but at the cost of minor recoil damage.

So that's a pretty big boost for a 5% health loss. I don't think it's ever been reduced; but I could have missed that. So he's got his drawbacks, but Black Bolt does get a reasonable payback for his health loss; and he paved the way for Suicide Masteries; beloved of many an arena-grinder. I hope we're grateful...

JozielPN

Magrailothos wrote: »

Jon8299 wrote: »

Actually the health loss was something new that came well after masteries was released. Before he only had Stun on his S1 I believe and his Provocation sig. After he got temporary buffs when attacks. Now he has armor break.

I'm afraid not, my friend. Black Bolt got his own personal Recoil in Patch 1.1 - months before Masteries came in Patch 3.0.

You can read all about it here:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/11/marvel-contest-of-champions-changelog/p1

Or the pertinent information is:

1.1 Patch Notes - Originally from 01-23-2015

Special Attacks:
Many heroes have received updates to their special attacks:
• Black Bolt's Corkscrew: +25% damage, but at the cost of minor recoil damage.

So that's a pretty big boost for a 5% health loss. I don't think it's ever been reduced; but I could have missed that. So he's got his drawbacks, but Black Bolt does get a reasonable payback for his health loss; and he paved the way for Suicide Masteries; beloved of many an arena-grinder. I hope we're grateful...

Huh, interesting didn't know about that, Kabam could put this information on his description...

"Corkscrew
Surrounded by anti-gravitons, Black Bolt flies into his opponents, forcing them back with multiple strikes.
X% chance to Stun for X seconds.
'Great power' comes at a price: activating this ability consumes 5% of your maximum Health.
X% chance to Armor Break, removing an enemy Armor Up and applying X Armor Rating reduction for X seconds."

It is hard to know if there is some attack boost during the fights.

JozielPN

Black Bolt's second special attack description: "Great power comes at a price: activating this ability consumes 5% of your maximum Health."

What is this 'Great power' Kabam? Most people can not say. Make his description more clear.

NinjaWarrior99

Isn't his sp2 the same as IP? Does IP lose 5% health too?

Etaki_Lirakoi

NinjaWarrior99 wrote: »

Isn't his sp2 the same as IP? Does IP lose 5% health too?

Same animation, but Black Bolt loses HP and IP doesn't.

Jon8299

Magrailothos wrote: »

Jon8299 wrote: »

Actually the health loss was something new that came well after masteries was released. Before he only had Stun on his S1 I believe and his Provocation sig. After he got temporary buffs when attacks. Now he has armor break.

I'm afraid not, my friend. Black Bolt got his own personal Recoil in Patch 1.1 - months before Masteries came in Patch 3.0.

You can read all about it here:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/11/marvel-contest-of-champions-changelog/p1

Or the pertinent information is:

1.1 Patch Notes - Originally from 01-23-2015

Special Attacks:
Many heroes have received updates to their special attacks:
• Black Bolt's Corkscrew: +25% damage, but at the cost of minor recoil damage.

So that's a pretty big boost for a 5% health loss. I don't think it's ever been reduced; but I could have missed that. So he's got his drawbacks, but Black Bolt does get a reasonable payback for his health loss; and he paved the way for Suicide Masteries; beloved of many an arena-grinder. I hope we're grateful...

Then I had a broken Black Bolt. I never saw that when I used Black Bolt. I was sure he got it after I started to play. I joined in June 2015. Didn't use the forum till a few weeks later. I was sure aftef they buffed him they mentioned something about his S2 causing recoil.

MarzGroove

Don't ask a yes/no question and then not put yes or no as response options. Geez...

JozielPN

Sorry about the confusing poll guys, you are right.
Unfortunately I can not change it or edit.
I guess my confusing poll is useless, but Kabam can still see the suggestion.

Yellsome

Well...personally I agree with u and say he shouldn't take damage

Dark_King888

Hulk's sig lasts feom one fight to the next... How???

KhanMedina

Dark_King888 wrote: »

Hulk's sig lasts feom one fight to the next... How???

Functionally, this is true, but wording is misleading. He gets stronger as health goes down, and health tends to go down after each fight since he doesn't regen, so he gets stronger every fight thanks to his sig.

Magrailothos

Dark_King888 wrote: »

Hulk's sig lasts feom one fight to the next... How???

Like @KhanMedina said -

Black Bolt gets beaten up in a fight and gains buffs. Next fight they're gone.

Hulk gets beaten up in a fight and gains Attack. Next fight, he still has the same bonus to Attack.

That's how.