Math and Fairness
Luke2080
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@Kabam Miike
Per your quote: So, let's say for example, a player has 2,400,000 gold initially. They got 9,000,000 gold from this bug and they donated 1,000,000 to Alliance treasury. The amount that will be removed is:
9,000,0000 (rewarded gold)
Minus 1,000,000 (donated to treasury)
Minus 200,000 (gold cutoff)
Equals 7,800,000 removed.
So if you are in an alliance that had war end before this bug was stopped. You get 200k gold. If you took advantage, your alliance chest is now stocked with zero penalty since you arent pulling it from treasuries.
If you spent a ton upgrading, you get reduced to zero gold. But who cares. You upgraded everything and stocked your treasury, so no more future donations.
What about those alliances where war ended after? What happened to the competitive landscape? Those that didnt close war while this was open just took a huge step back.
Where is our 200k? And why the heck dont you revert donations of dirty gold?
Also...why the hell is intercept and parry still broken? There are now reports of nightcrawler staying invisible. Just a sword.
At least I know to short the netmarble stock to make money back I stupidly spent on this game.
Per your quote: So, let's say for example, a player has 2,400,000 gold initially. They got 9,000,000 gold from this bug and they donated 1,000,000 to Alliance treasury. The amount that will be removed is:
9,000,0000 (rewarded gold)
Minus 1,000,000 (donated to treasury)
Minus 200,000 (gold cutoff)
Equals 7,800,000 removed.
So if you are in an alliance that had war end before this bug was stopped. You get 200k gold. If you took advantage, your alliance chest is now stocked with zero penalty since you arent pulling it from treasuries.
If you spent a ton upgrading, you get reduced to zero gold. But who cares. You upgraded everything and stocked your treasury, so no more future donations.
What about those alliances where war ended after? What happened to the competitive landscape? Those that didnt close war while this was open just took a huge step back.
Where is our 200k? And why the heck dont you revert donations of dirty gold?
Also...why the hell is intercept and parry still broken? There are now reports of nightcrawler staying invisible. Just a sword.
At least I know to short the netmarble stock to make money back I stupidly spent on this game.
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But their math is wrong and it benefits those who exploited the glitch
(granted, given their example numbers this would be difficult to do because you would have to have a lot of champs to rank plus the cats & IS but at lower numbers, the easier to exploit)
Let's look at their numbers concerning use.
Player started w/ 3mil + 9mil for the glitch--12 mil total
Player spent (not donated) 3.3 mil ranking up champs (again, difficult). -- leaves them 8.7 mil
They can't take away more than 8.7 nil so they take all the gold
Now, the player comes out 100k ahead because, even if they used their original 3mil plus the 200k allocation that would total 3.2mil
But was able to spend 3.3 when they ranked up the champs.
Works regardless of how much you got in the glitch as long as you spent more than what you had (and I know some people who only had a couple thousand In gold), you came out ahead. The lower the starting gold, the easier and more beneficial the exploit
You aren't effected by the bug. People who were effected could not enter in arena, and still not getting any gold from arena or from quest.
What you are saying is, my neighbor's house burnt down but I should also get the insurance money?
@Kabam Miike Whats the deal with maybe fixing bugs and creating a fair solution for this gold bug for all players?
Can they skip the next 2 updates and just fix things? And can someone determine you need a QA process? Software isnt this hard.
Everyone was impacted if some alliances benefit from 10s of millions in treasury. And we all also get the arena nonsense. So....many of use lose twice. Thanks Netmarble/Kabam!
Like i have said many times before, Kabam owes its players. It be fair across the board to give 2 million gold to everyone. Low level players would finally be able rank something. Higher level guys can rank the very exspensive 5 stars. Also you greedy Kabamers dont give gold for map 6. How about you guys respect your players and provide a reward thats worth it.
On another note, i want proof of the beta program. How is it possible that everything that comes to the game is broken? I work in IT and if my team made mistakes that like Kabam does on every update, my whole team would be fired by the second mistake.
Where is the proof of the beta? What is the method of testing?
So bottom line is, you are salty because you weren't effected by the bug? Did you know people who "exploited the glitch" (has to be a super especial minded to phrase it) as you have stated could not enter in arena, and still not getting any gold from arena or from quest.
LOL . Did you even read what they officially said before you have started arguing?
The first step of this, which is removing the extra gold from player balances will be completed by tomorrow. We will approach the Treasury issue after that.
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
So, best case some people get 200k. Or more likely, more than 200k if they used it for rankups. Maybe they take from treasury, but they just set an example where people keep significant and hard to measure rewards.
Its a competitive advantage. And one more terrible mistake while they cant fix basic bugs. Most agree they should stop pushing new content if they cant fix what is broken.
How about that 5* punisher that was clearly never in arena crystals before this last update?
They need a real fix for this gold problem. And my bigger issue is that they need to hire 20 QA engineers.
In my opinion, if they take punitive actions against anyone for this, they have proven themselves completely unscrupulous bastards and do not deserve their player-base.
This was yet another one of THEIR SCREW-UPS, not ours.
I love how quick the devs are to lay the smack down when the players benefit from their mistakes that work out in our favor, but how slow and unbothered they are to fix the ones that hinder us.
I've been "warned" in pm's from Mike for the same thing.
How dare you speak out against your supreme overlords. Just shut your mouth and keep them rich.
Been there before...
This was so obviously a bug and people took advantage. Has this happened before? Oh yes the other day with quests rewards, those people lost there extra rewards, ISO or gold spent ranking up, some shards they used along with the extra shards and even bans!
So where is the fairness?
Luckily I had nothing to do with either but I do feel sorry for those people when others this time have got away with exploring.
I know kabam makes the rules but this is just mad