Champion with most immunities and utilities

S_kime_26S_kime_26 Member Posts: 21 ★
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Which champion has the most immunities and utility

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  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
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  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Member Posts: 4,162 ★★★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Member Posts: 4,162 ★★★★★
    But it Is only one in counting.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,422 ★★★★★
    edited September 2020
    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Member Posts: 4,162 ★★★★★
    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
    My summarisation of quake's abilities was better.
  • Shamir51Shamir51 Member Posts: 1,145 ★★★★
    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
    If you’re using Quake, and using her correctly, these utilities mean nothing

    Armour Break
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    So the only thing that Warlock does that Quake cannot is place a bleed or shock debuff on an opponent.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,422 ★★★★★
    Shamir51 said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
    If you’re using Quake, and using her correctly, these utilities mean nothing

    Armour Break
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    So the only thing that Warlock does that Quake cannot is place a bleed or shock debuff on an opponent.
    that's still +1 for Warlock
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,963 ★★★★★
    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
    Almost all of Warlocks utilities aren’t needed if you can just Quake the fight
  • Shamir51Shamir51 Member Posts: 1,145 ★★★★
    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Shamir51 said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
    If you’re using Quake, and using her correctly, these utilities mean nothing

    Armour Break
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    So the only thing that Warlock does that Quake cannot is place a bleed or shock debuff on an opponent.
    that's still +1 for Warlock
    Yes, on a node that is “defender takes 90% less (or no) damage unless the defender is suffering from a bleed/shock debuff”, warlock is +1 but pretty much everything else, it’s Quake.

    All seriousness, I don’t know many hardcore Quakers that are afraid to admit that there’s certain things she can’t do but it becomes situational then.

    Would I use Quake against IMIW? No.
    Would I use her against duped Iceman? No.
    Would I use her against True Strike? No.
  • YoMovesYoMoves Member Posts: 1,284 ★★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
    Almost all of Warlocks utilities aren’t needed if you can just Quake the fight
    *laughs in True Strike*
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,422 ★★★★★
    Shamir51 said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Shamir51 said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Lvernon15 said:

    Faseeh said:

    Emma has most immunities and most utility must be warlock (my guess)

    Quake has the most utility
    Quake has only one utility:
    Dancing in the corner
    She has the utility that does the same as about 6386827 other utilities combined
    -Quake

    Stun
    Evasion and Infinite Heavy
    AAR
    De Facto Power Control
    Non-Contact Damage


    -Warlock

    Bleed
    Armour Break
    Shock
    AAR
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    While yes Quake has some great utility, Warlock has more utility than she does.
    If you’re using Quake, and using her correctly, these utilities mean nothing

    Armour Break
    Armour Up preventing Critical SPs
    Power Drain on Non-Contact Block and SP1
    Power Burn on SP3
    Heal Block
    Consistent Power Drain if opponent is healing
    Bleed, Poison, Frostbite and Coldsnap Immunity
    #XL Tag
    Regeneration on SP3
    Highest Base Crit Damage rating

    So the only thing that Warlock does that Quake cannot is place a bleed or shock debuff on an opponent.
    that's still +1 for Warlock
    Yes, on a node that is “defender takes 90% less (or no) damage unless the defender is suffering from a bleed/shock debuff”, warlock is +1 but pretty much everything else, it’s Quake.

    All seriousness, I don’t know many hardcore Quakers that are afraid to admit that there’s certain things she can’t do but it becomes situational then.

    Would I use Quake against IMIW? No.
    Would I use her against duped Iceman? No.
    Would I use her against True Strike? No.
    To be fair the argument is on most utilities, not best utilities. You're right, Quake has a lot of psuedo-utilities (I'm using this term because these utilties are indirect causes of her abilities) that Warlock has.

    A lot of Quake's utilties lie in her concussion and her constant evade. You pull up with someone with True Accuracy and True Strike, AAR immunity/Concussion immunity or another counter and the utilities commit not feeling so good.

    A lot of Warlock's utility isn't tied to another piece of utility (but even then that passage to it won't be hindered as AAR wont affect infections). They work on individual factors, such as why Warlock is known like a Utility Jesus.
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