Interaction between sabretooth and suicides

Giuliameij

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to get some clarification on the interaction with sabretooth, primarily his furies, and suicides.
It is right that the suicides masteries only boost his attack from his base value?
So 60% from 2098 (5/65 5*).
And will not consider all the furies.
A basic calculation would give sabretooth roughly 16784 bonus attack at 30 furies (depending on how you build him up)
This would give a total of 18882 attack value.
With suicides it would be (2098*1.6=3356.8) 20140 attack value.
Which is only a very slight difference.

Is this logic right? Or do the masteries affect his fury boosted attack value? Which would cause an incredible difference.
And would make suicides masteries worthwhile when trying for Labyrinth of legends, otherwise it would clearly not.

Esket1t_420

this is a math job for @DNA3000

CoatHang3r

Or a math job for anyone who can divide his fury by his base attack to find out the percentage then calculate how much his bleed damage increased when a fury was present and finally comparing if the two are different.

Giuliameij

I`ll make the question simpler.

Do the suicide masteries increase the amount of attack sabretooths furies give him? Or only his base attack.
Which would mean a fully build up Sabretooth would hardly notice a difference with or without suicides.

Except for the recoil mastery I think.

Lvernon15

Suicides will only boost the base, not the furies, so they’re fairly insignificant to a ramped sabre

Eb0ny-O-M4w

The furies increase attack rating by a certain % of his base attack. The suicide masteries increase a champion attack, but the value won't be considered a "base attack", but rather modified attack.

So, suicides won't increase the attack values provided by the furies.

Chikel

CoatHang3r said:

Or a math job for anyone who can divide his fury by his base attack to find out the percentage then calculate how much his bleed damage increased when a fury was present and finally comparing if the two are different.

I blanked out after "math"
Can someone explain what he said, preferably without all the math words?