Black widow claire voyant bug glitch

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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,354 ★★★★★
    edited September 2020
    HI_guys said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Also ghost is not immune to bleed - However, Carnage's bleeds treat it as an immunity an utter misconception!

    Claire gains charges against ghost as well. I always see "immune" pop up whenever I phase he debuffs, and she gains those charges and power.
    It's weird. I just did a duel and if I phase her debuffs after she places them ,no charges. But when she threw her sp1 while I was phasing, it counted towards her charges and she gained them.

    How can a champ be Soo good and soo bugged at the same time?
    I don't think she's broken. I think many of the interactions we perceive as purify, aren't counting as purify as per her abilities are broken or poorly defined.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,354 ★★★★★
    edited September 2020
    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Also ghost is not immune to bleed - However, Carnage's bleeds treat it as an immunity an utter misconception!

    Claire gains charges against ghost as well. I always see "immune" pop up whenever I phase he debuffs, and she gains those charges and power.
    It's weird. I just did a duel and if I phase her debuffs after she places them ,no charges. But when she threw her sp1 while I was phasing, it counted towards her charges and she gained them.

    How can a champ be Soo good and soo bugged at the same time?
    I don't think she's broken. I think many of the interactions we perceive as purify, aren't counting as purify as per her abilities are broken or poorly defined.
    Her definition is fine. Only problem is that it's not consistent. Like now ghost is immune to debuffs when phasing??? Like how? And buff immunity has been bugged for ages. And annihlus not giving her charges why?
    That was my point. The different interactions of what is considered "purify". Obviously many interactions of what we, the community, feel are debuffs being purified aren't counting towards her abilities.

    As far as Annihilus goes- if his Control Rod is active, he cancels the nullify out and he removes the control rod for 10 seconds. His Cosmic Control Rod gives him immunity to incinerate. So if you are activating SP1 or a heavy while the Rod she won't get any charges.
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,354 ★★★★★
    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Also ghost is not immune to bleed - However, Carnage's bleeds treat it as an immunity an utter misconception!

    Claire gains charges against ghost as well. I always see "immune" pop up whenever I phase he debuffs, and she gains those charges and power.
    It's weird. I just did a duel and if I phase her debuffs after she places them ,no charges. But when she threw her sp1 while I was phasing, it counted towards her charges and she gained them.

    How can a champ be Soo good and soo bugged at the same time?
    I don't think she's broken. I think many of the interactions we perceive as purify, aren't counting as purify as per her abilities are broken or poorly defined.
    Her definition is fine. Only problem is that it's not consistent. Like now ghost is immune to debuffs when phasing??? Like how? And buff immunity has been bugged for ages. And annihlus not giving her charges why?
    That was my point. The different interactions of what is considered "purify". Obviously many interactions of what we, the community, feel are debuffs being purified aren't counting towards her abilities.

    As far as Annihilus goes- if his Control Rod is active, he cancels the nullify out and he removes the control rod for 10 seconds. His Cosmic Control Rod gives him immunity to incinerate. So if you are activating SP1 or a heavy while the Rod she won't get any charges.
    Yeah. Not that. When he dashes in he's stun immune and parry wont work. So she should get charges but she dosent
    Charges from what? Parry?
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    HI_guys said:

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    You can say a bug is in place like for instance in the case of annihilus. I've noticed she doesn't gain charges when he's stun immune with his rod active, but gains charges due to his incinerate immunity with the rod. Pretty sure it's a bug.

    Another case is infinity man. When you apply a bleed when his armor is down. Upon gaining the armor back, the bleed is purified due to his bleed immunity, yet Claire doesn't gain charges from this interaction, also a bug. She does gain charges when he has the armor active, and you try to bleed him.

    Not a bug. Purify isn't the same as immune. I showed that in my video. Tenacity is the same as purify. BW's kit doesn't work like that. They have to be immune to have her gain charges. I also don't have a clue in what stun immunity has to do with her gaining charges from Annihilus. He's immune to incinerate. If you can get to 3rd phase and either get a heavy off or SP1 then he will gain charges with or without the Cosmic Rod up.

    Please, please do some research before making statements like you did.
    Clairvoyance Charge – Passive
    Claire starts with 3 charges. Each time she or her Opponent are immune to any effect, or an immunity Purifies a pre-existing effect, she gains 1 charge and 4% of her max Power. Charges stack up to 20.
    I'd have to retry on IMIW. Does it say purify when he gains armor up?
    That is what happens when you gain an immunity with the effect you now immune to, it purifies it.

    There was another thread regarding Claire interaction with mighty charge. Ziibit said that opponent would purify the debuff and then only become immune to it. Maybe something like that is working with IMIW. Why annihilus dosent give her charges I have no ide
    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    You can say a bug is in place like for instance in the case of annihilus. I've noticed she doesn't gain charges when he's stun immune with his rod active, but gains charges due to his incinerate immunity with the rod. Pretty sure it's a bug.

    Another case is infinity man. When you apply a bleed when his armor is down. Upon gaining the armor back, the bleed is purified due to his bleed immunity, yet Claire doesn't gain charges from this interaction, also a bug. She does gain charges when he has the armor active, and you try to bleed him.

    Not a bug. Purify isn't the same as immune. I showed that in my video. Tenacity is the same as purify. BW's kit doesn't work like that. They have to be immune to have her gain charges. I also don't have a clue in what stun immunity has to do with her gaining charges from Annihilus. He's immune to incinerate. If you can get to 3rd phase and either get a heavy off or SP1 then he will gain charges with or without the Cosmic Rod up.

    Please, please do some research before making statements like you did.
    Clairvoyance Charge – Passive
    Claire starts with 3 charges. Each time she or her Opponent are immune to any effect, or an immunity Purifies a pre-existing effect, she gains 1 charge and 4% of her max Power. Charges stack up to 20.
    I'd have to retry on IMIW. Does it say purify when he gains armor up?
    That is what happens when you gain an immunity with the effect you now immune to, it purifies it.

    Perhaps it's like mighty charge? Remove the bleeds and then become immune to it?

    No idea about annihilus. Never noticed it beofre and it most certainly is a bug
    Mighty charge has multiple actions involved in the charge itself, the armor does not.
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,354 ★★★★★
    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Also ghost is not immune to bleed - However, Carnage's bleeds treat it as an immunity an utter misconception!

    Claire gains charges against ghost as well. I always see "immune" pop up whenever I phase he debuffs, and she gains those charges and power.
    It's weird. I just did a duel and if I phase her debuffs after she places them ,no charges. But when she threw her sp1 while I was phasing, it counted towards her charges and she gained them.

    How can a champ be Soo good and soo bugged at the same time?
    I don't think she's broken. I think many of the interactions we perceive as purify, aren't counting as purify as per her abilities are broken or poorly defined.
    Her definition is fine. Only problem is that it's not consistent. Like now ghost is immune to debuffs when phasing??? Like how? And buff immunity has been bugged for ages. And annihlus not giving her charges why?
    That was my point. The different interactions of what is considered "purify". Obviously many interactions of what we, the community, feel are debuffs being purified aren't counting towards her abilities.

    As far as Annihilus goes- if his Control Rod is active, he cancels the nullify out and he removes the control rod for 10 seconds. His Cosmic Control Rod gives him immunity to incinerate. So if you are activating SP1 or a heavy while the Rod she won't get any charges.
    Yeah. Not that. When he dashes in he's stun immune and parry wont work. So she should get charges but she dosent
    Charges from what? Parry?
    Duh
    What charge would she get from parry if someone is stun immune? She only gets charges from curses which are bleed, poison and incinerate. She doesn't apply any of those on parry.
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  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★

    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    HI_guys said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Also ghost is not immune to bleed - However, Carnage's bleeds treat it as an immunity an utter misconception!

    Claire gains charges against ghost as well. I always see "immune" pop up whenever I phase he debuffs, and she gains those charges and power.
    It's weird. I just did a duel and if I phase her debuffs after she places them ,no charges. But when she threw her sp1 while I was phasing, it counted towards her charges and she gained them.

    How can a champ be Soo good and soo bugged at the same time?
    I don't think she's broken. I think many of the interactions we perceive as purify, aren't counting as purify as per her abilities are broken or poorly defined.
    Her definition is fine. Only problem is that it's not consistent. Like now ghost is immune to debuffs when phasing??? Like how? And buff immunity has been bugged for ages. And annihlus not giving her charges why?
    That was my point. The different interactions of what is considered "purify". Obviously many interactions of what we, the community, feel are debuffs being purified aren't counting towards her abilities.

    As far as Annihilus goes- if his Control Rod is active, he cancels the nullify out and he removes the control rod for 10 seconds. His Cosmic Control Rod gives him immunity to incinerate. So if you are activating SP1 or a heavy while the Rod she won't get any charges.
    Yeah. Not that. When he dashes in he's stun immune and parry wont work. So she should get charges but she dosent
    Charges from what? Parry?
    Duh
    What charge would she get from parry if someone is stun immune? She only gets charges from curses which are bleed, poison and incinerate. She doesn't apply any of those on parry.
    I'll tell you a few cases where Claire gains charges on a parry.

    Case 1- opponent is stun immune

    Case 2- Opponent is debuff immune

    Case 3- You have points in the pacify mastery, and the opponent is immune to ability accuracy reduction, or is on a force of will node and can be stunned. In that case, she gains as many charges and power in a single bout as there are points in pacify.

    Check it out 🙂
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  • Mrspider568Mrspider568 Member Posts: 2,007 ★★★

    She throws of her special 1; the immunity triggers three times but black widow claire voyant's abilities fail to activate

    Read cables ability my man it states he reduces the potency of future poisons by a certain percent
  • DarkSoulDLXDarkSoulDLX Member Posts: 675 ★★★

    She throws of her special 1; the immunity triggers three times but black widow claire voyant's abilities fail to activate

    Read cables ability my man it states he reduces the potency of future poisons by a certain percent
    Yes I should of checked but that symbol ascribed to him can be very misleading
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