Dr. Doom with out Mystic Dispersion

Mephisto

Planning for running half suicide with Liquid Courage. I have 4/5 in MD. Thought of 3/3 WP, 1/3 recoil and 1/3 LC. I only use 5* R4 Doom and Magik. Any advice?

Lvernon15

Don’t run half suicides, especially if you’re using liquid courage as that half, and if you have 1/3 points in it you’re massively hurting yourself, but doom doesn’t need mystic dispersion

Kill_Grey

Lol, Doom with suicides = 💀

Lormif

Mephisto said:

Planning for running half suicide with Liquid Courage. I have 4/5 in MD. Thought of 3/3 WP, 1/3 recoil and 1/3 LC. I only use 5* R4 Doom and Magik. Any advice?

you know doom relies on specials, right?

Mephisto

OMG, i really want to run suicides. I have 4 Carb cores now. Where can i invest?

Mephisto

@Lormif Yes, i'm aware of him. Thought of replacing him with Magik on my team.

Lormif

Mephisto said:

@Lormif Yes, i'm aware of him. Thought of replacing him with Magik on my team.

How does replacing one special heavy champ with another special heavy champ help that you will be eating a lot of recoil damage?

Bonzodavid

Lormif said:

Mephisto said:

@Lormif Yes, i'm aware of him. Thought of replacing him with Magik on my team.

How does replacing one special heavy champ with another special heavy champ help that you will be eating a lot of recoil damage?

You do know magik bypasses recoil with limbo which activates every special attack right?

Mephisto

Exactly! Magik is a recoil friendly champ.

Lormif

Bonzodavid said:

Lormif said:

Mephisto said:

@Lormif Yes, i'm aware of him. Thought of replacing him with Magik on my team.

How does replacing one special heavy champ with another special heavy champ help that you will be eating a lot of recoil damage?

You do know magik bypasses recoil with limbo which activates every special attack right?

Seems like I did at one point, my bad

MagnaAngemon_333

Activate full Suicides not half and wait for Claire or keep using Magik.

MagnaAngemon_333

Here is a cool Tip with Magik if you run Suicides. Use Morningstar synergy, with combination of MS synergy and Warlock Synergy, Magik Sp2 is no joke and don't forget magik can rotate between her SP2 very quickly.

Magik is Known for her power control not buff control.

Without Suicides:
Magik + Warlock

With Suicides:
Magik + Morningstar

From my experience.

Use full Suicides or don't use Suicides. Because taking 5% recoil damage for dealing half extra damage is not worth it. Don't put points in Suicide mastery until your Suicides are fully opened.

Etjama

MagnaAngemon_333 said:

With Suicides:
Magik + Morningstar

Still don't think there's any reason to bring in Morningstar unless you're trying to build a team around Magik. Morningstar sucks with Suicides since it's really hard to ramp her up.

hefy2000

MagnaAngemon_333 said:

Without Suicides:
Magik + Warlock

With Suicides:
Magik + Morningstar

You sure you don’t mean the other way around? Morningstar is not great with suicides (you basically can’t pick up charges unless you end the fight with sp3) and warlock is amazing with them (double immune and can heal via sp3).

Unless you are referring to them merely as synergy partners for magik.

Etjama

hefy2000 said:

MagnaAngemon_333 said:

Without Suicides:
Magik + Warlock

With Suicides:
Magik + Morningstar

You sure you don’t mean the other way around? Morningstar is not great with suicides (you basically can’t pick up charges unless you end the fight with sp3) and warlock is amazing with them (double immune and can heal via sp3).

Unless you are referring to them merely as synergy partners for magik.

Heeeey Hefy. Great minds think alike I guess.

Ciciliato

Etjama said:

MagnaAngemon_333 said:

With Suicides:
Magik + Morningstar

Still don't think there's any reason to bring in Morningstar unless you're trying to build a team around Magik. Morningstar sucks with Suicides since it's really hard to ramp her up.

She can work with just half suicides. But 1/3 is trully suicide, half 3/3 maybe can work well, not for Doom and he doesn't need MD but for me is nice to have

MagnaAngemon_333

hefy2000 said:

MagnaAngemon_333 said:

Without Suicides:
Magik + Warlock

With Suicides:
Magik + Morningstar

You sure you don’t mean the other way around? Morningstar is not great with suicides (you basically can’t pick up charges unless you end the fight with sp3) and warlock is amazing with them (double immune and can heal via sp3).

Unless you are referring to them merely as synergy partners for magik.

@hefy2000 @Etjama Magik sp2 damage with Suicides is very good it crits, and Magik crit chance is kinda decent.

If you use MS synergy it will gives you access to increase critical Rating and damage rating. Why do you think Corvus hits harder with Suicides even with 1 charges because when cruelty damage scales with increase attack rating it's no joke.

MS synergy is not necessary, but it will boost Magik damage potential, and with that synergy her SP2 won't be in too much favour of crit RNG.

Yeah it's not necessary, but if you even have one place left for Champion to place just use MS synergy.

And MS herself fully ramped is very suicide friendly champion, trust me.

Like I said it's not necessary it just boost potential. Yeah warlock synergy will give her 50% increase damage in limbo, but again what if you don't crit.

Like I said it's upto you, if you use Warlock then it's good, if you use MS then it is also good.

Aziz5253

How many units does it take to unlock suicides? Cores + placing points

Etjama

MagnaAngemon_333 said:

hefy2000 said:

MagnaAngemon_333 said:

Without Suicides:
Magik + Warlock

With Suicides:
Magik + Morningstar

You sure you don’t mean the other way around? Morningstar is not great with suicides (you basically can’t pick up charges unless you end the fight with sp3) and warlock is amazing with them (double immune and can heal via sp3).

Unless you are referring to them merely as synergy partners for magik.

@hefy2000 @Etjama Magik sp2 damage with Suicides is very good it crits, and Magik crit chance is kinda decent.

If you use MS synergy it will gives you access to increase critical Rating and damage rating. Why do you think Corvus hits harder with Suicides even with 1 charges because when cruelty damage scales with increase attack rating it's no joke.

MS synergy is not necessary, but it will boost Magik damage potential, and with that synergy her SP2 won't be in too much favour of crit RNG.

Yeah it's not necessary, but if you even have one place left for Champion to place just use MS synergy.

And MS herself fully ramped is very suicide friendly champion, trust me.

Like I said it's not necessary it just boost potential. Yeah warlock synergy will give her 50% increase damage in limbo, but again what if you don't crit.

Like I said it's upto you, if you use Warlock then it's good, if you use MS then it is also good.

We already know this... but I really don't think it's worth it to bring in an un-suicide friendly champ to boost Magik by a little bit. Do you even know how to Morningstar, bro? Sure, she'd be great with suicides once she's ramped up. But that ramp-up is going to be ridiculous with the poison constantly draining your soul counter.

Etjama

Aziz5253 said:

How many units does it take to unlock suicides? Cores + placing points

All depends on the setup you want. Mine is going to cost like 9200 units. 😶

AATT

I have two suicides setup. one with 4 points in MD and the other one with 3 points in despair and pacify. I switch them according to the content I'm clearing. Doom with suicides has a different playstyle, I always charge sp3 and then sp1, once again sp3 and so on. Isn't the best rotation, but extra damage for suicides helps a lot for ending fights earlier

Rayaan_2000

Aziz5253 said:

How many units does it take to unlock suicides? Cores + placing points

8 carbadonium mastery cores or 4400 units for full suicides with one point in recoil