Archangel or Cap iw

The_beast123

So Yeah guys i got both of them at rank 3 duped as of now (5 stars), i have enough resources to take aa up to rank 4 now, but i need to t4cc science to take capiw. I love both of them, but i didn't know who would be viable for the upcoming contents. Insights on this will be very helpful.
Thanks in advance!

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avenge_123

Capiw (sig 1)

if you can increase the sig level of cap iw.....it's the best way to go....no need to ask then....

HavocGamer49

Archangel (sig 42)

Honestly with how easy it is to get t2a just do aa rn and do caiw in another 1-2 weeks

Agent_X_zzz

What content are you looking at doing? I say AA for now.

The_beast123

Agent_X_zzz said:

What content are you looking at doing? I say AA for now.

im in act 5.2.4 [not finished that quest yet]. if needed i can add a pic of my roster.

The_beast123

HavocGamer49 said:

Honestly with how easy it is to get t2a just do aa rn and do caiw in another 1-2 weeks

unless i get to play another mutant treasure island, i don't think i will be able to get the tier 2 alpha as I'm not uc yet

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The_beast123

OneManArmy said:

The_beast123 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

What content are you looking at doing? I say AA for now.

im in act 5.2.4 [not finished that quest yet]. if needed i can add a pic of my roster.

Then i change my vote. AA is a freaking don at that level

but, doesn't collector have tenacity? i know aa could melt the rest, but still....... i guess you get me??

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Fluffy_paws

Archangel (sig 42)

He sucks against the Collector. Collector shrugs off everything, without his bleeds and poisons AA is a noodle.
He's great for the path though.
CapIW isn't great for him either

Take AA up first since he doesn't need many sigs, destroy content, earn more sigs for Cap and take him up too.

The_beast123

i got 2 more options too, but i thought lets go for this guys first.
my other 2 good options are hyperion and claire.
now what should i do?
i don't anymore mind if they are a good counter to collector or not, but they should be decent enough to use in the upcoming contents.

Prakhar_82

Archangel (sig 42)

Don't be so worried for collector. He is actually not that bad. Just do as much damage as you can, loose, revive and go back to it. If you have a 4* Doom or Vision (Ultron or OG), they are good options too. But still he is not that bad. Keep 500 units at least before going for him. I have done it around 200 units with 4* rank 4s and 1 4* rank 5 and it wasn't that difficult.

Chikel

Archangel (sig 42)

Fluffy_paws said:

He sucks against the Collector. Collector shrugs off everything, without his bleeds and poisons AA is a noodle.
He's great for the path though.
CapIW isn't great for him either

Take AA up first since he doesn't need many sigs, destroy content, earn more sigs for Cap and take him up too.

Doesn't AA's bleeds reduce tenacity?

TrashPanda12

Archangel (sig 42)

AA is best for where you are at

Fluffy_paws

Archangel (sig 42)

Chikel said:

Fluffy_paws said:

He sucks against the Collector. Collector shrugs off everything, without his bleeds and poisons AA is a noodle.
He's great for the path though.
CapIW isn't great for him either

Take AA up first since he doesn't need many sigs, destroy content, earn more sigs for Cap and take him up too.

Doesn't AA's bleeds reduce tenacity?

Yes, but it's only 25% per bleed.
When I tried AA it was hard to stack them, he purified them pretty much instantly. Shrugs off parry stun so no heavies. I couldn't get my bleeds to stick. Maybe just bad rng but with everything else going on in that fight you don't wanna deal with more.
I didn't dare heavy counter on my first run and then for completion I never used AA.
Then after 40% he's immune to bleed and poison.

I think he was only r2. I could go back with my 5/65 to test, might be a better time.

Chikel

Archangel (sig 42)

Fluffy_paws said:

Chikel said:

Fluffy_paws said:

He sucks against the Collector. Collector shrugs off everything, without his bleeds and poisons AA is a noodle.
He's great for the path though.
CapIW isn't great for him either

Take AA up first since he doesn't need many sigs, destroy content, earn more sigs for Cap and take him up too.

Doesn't AA's bleeds reduce tenacity?

Yes, but it's only 25% per bleed.
When I tried AA it was hard to stack them, he purified them pretty much instantly. Shrugs off parry stun so no heavies. I couldn't get my bleeds to stick. Maybe just bad rng but with everything else going on in that fight you don't wanna deal with more.
I didn't dare heavy counter on my first run and then for completion I never used AA.
Then after 40% he's immune to bleed and poison.

I think he was only r2. I could go back with my 5/65 to test, might be a better time.

The White mags synergy would have been a game changer for the collector fight if only it wasn't bugged. Would have made AA more viable for that fight.

Gardener

matters what content your at if your at a level with lots of bleed and poison nodes i'll say take up Cap IW. If you want to rank 4 AA first then okay if you want to rank 4 Cap IW first sure.But if you rank up one of them first make sure to rank up the other one later in the future there both excellent champs

Fluffy_paws

Archangel (sig 42)

Chikel said:

Fluffy_paws said:

Chikel said:

Fluffy_paws said:

He sucks against the Collector. Collector shrugs off everything, without his bleeds and poisons AA is a noodle.
He's great for the path though.
CapIW isn't great for him either

Take AA up first since he doesn't need many sigs, destroy content, earn more sigs for Cap and take him up too.

Doesn't AA's bleeds reduce tenacity?

Yes, but it's only 25% per bleed.
When I tried AA it was hard to stack them, he purified them pretty much instantly. Shrugs off parry stun so no heavies. I couldn't get my bleeds to stick. Maybe just bad rng but with everything else going on in that fight you don't wanna deal with more.
I didn't dare heavy counter on my first run and then for completion I never used AA.
Then after 40% he's immune to bleed and poison.

I think he was only r2. I could go back with my 5/65 to test, might be a better time.

The White mags synergy would have been a game changer for the collector fight if only it wasn't bugged. Would have made AA more viable for that fight.

I'll have to try it if White Mags is ever fixed. Also if I ever get him above 2*.