Small thing about Tune Ups and Updates
WRIR
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I was very pleasantly surprised that Kabam wanted to do more Tune Ups and Updates. But I wanted to remind everybody of a few things.
1. A lot of people are confused as to what Tune Ups are. Tune Ups are literally number changes, no mechanic changes. To my memory, Tune Ups are the "worst" of buffs, and did not make or break a character. Possibly because they were done mostly on terrible characters anyway. Honestly I think Tune Ups would be better if they are done for mid tier-ish characrers or characters like Hulk(Ragnarok) that are old but not too old, and have working sellpoints, just might be better with a few number buffs, or finally giving cull some block proficiency.
2. Historically, to my memory, Tune Ups and updates have never produced "S tier" champions. Red Hulk or Carnage were "pretty good" at the time of their update, as well as Gamora or Gambit or Falcon. This leads me to infer that none of the Update or Tune Up characters will be game changing. We infact knew that Kabam probably wants it to be that way, given they nerfed Gambit when he was game changing. I do however hope that maybe one or two are considering there are 4 buffed a month, but I cant be sure.
Tldr: "Tune up groot first" is a terrible idea. Please reserve groot for overhaul. Don't expect Tune Ups or Updates to be Bgt and be disappointed. Rejoice if they do end up A tier or above!
Overall very happy to hear the new buffs tho!
1. A lot of people are confused as to what Tune Ups are. Tune Ups are literally number changes, no mechanic changes. To my memory, Tune Ups are the "worst" of buffs, and did not make or break a character. Possibly because they were done mostly on terrible characters anyway. Honestly I think Tune Ups would be better if they are done for mid tier-ish characrers or characters like Hulk(Ragnarok) that are old but not too old, and have working sellpoints, just might be better with a few number buffs, or finally giving cull some block proficiency.
2. Historically, to my memory, Tune Ups and updates have never produced "S tier" champions. Red Hulk or Carnage were "pretty good" at the time of their update, as well as Gamora or Gambit or Falcon. This leads me to infer that none of the Update or Tune Up characters will be game changing. We infact knew that Kabam probably wants it to be that way, given they nerfed Gambit when he was game changing. I do however hope that maybe one or two are considering there are 4 buffed a month, but I cant be sure.
Tldr: "Tune up groot first" is a terrible idea. Please reserve groot for overhaul. Don't expect Tune Ups or Updates to be Bgt and be disappointed. Rejoice if they do end up A tier or above!
Overall very happy to hear the new buffs tho!
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I know this because I love Ghulk, and have tried to use him everywhere. The Mojo synergy helps a little, but my conclusion was he is a very very Niche champ that's barely A tier because of Face Me, which is fine, but he would actually benefit from a Tune Up rather than many bad characters who's mechanics are so bad that a Tune Up won't save them. With his Crowd excitement lasting longer and or easier to ramp up, and or crowd excitement giving more damage, it "might" change his place in the contest or not, but will surely make him much more enjoyable for every day content.
Point 2 is you basically projecting the future based on one or two examples that you saw in the past; and concluding that Tune Ups don't produce S-tier champs. That's incorrect.
A Tune Up simply means that the champion's kit is relevant in the meta, but their attributes or mechanics need adjusting to get the most out of them.
Don't forget that Human Torch was Tuned Up, and even though it was a small change on paper, it was quite an impactful change in his gameplay.
The same can be said about Immortal Hulk. Tuning him up properly would make him the Science equivalent of Domino & Sunspot. Which is pretty handy for some players.
While I hope and pray to the heavens above that all overhauls will be the equivalent of Colossus and Magneto, because I love DD Netflix, we can't assume that that's going to be the case because of the past.
At the end of the day, it's up to the designers (and testers) to make sure we get something noteworthy, regardless of the methodology.
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Just a little more practicality in his abilities would help.
But Ghulk is a good character. He does have Face Me. I'm saying that his kit would be noticable easier with a Tune Up. If he did not have Face me, I think he'd be a good candidate for a Tune Up because it will make him easier to play and smoother overall, since he has some interesting utility like being Unstoppable.
Basically I wish Tune Ups were used on slightly better characters that would actually benefit from higher numbers rather than terrible characters that will help no one.
I also agree that an Immortal Hulk Tune Up would be nice. I don't like his kit in general because I don't like the self-hurting part of the kit, which I don't think is very comic accurate and is kind of annoying. I wish they made his gamma store a percentage of health lost as gamma without the self hurting piece, that way he'd be kind of like Nick Fury, but would eventually run out of gamma so it wouldn't be busted or something.
But as he stands, if he did get more damage, I think the he'd feel much better.