Dormammu, Vision, or Namor?

I'm debating taking either Dormammu, Vision Age of Ultron (already have a R4 Ghost for a good tech tho), or Namor to R2... What do ya'll think? All are 4* and unduped. Also can you tell me the pros/cons of each?
Much appreciated

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JragonMaster170

Namor

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J0E_Hardy

Namor, better damage then both

Ok then.....Btw what do you think of Vision? He has power burn on his SP1 and SP2....

Berjibs

If you need power control the first two are great. Also don’t use buffs and double immune which is always handy. Dorm has the benefit of being non robot for those nodes that place shock instead of bleeds or poisons, can deny an opponent ever getting a bar of power and also has good regen. Neither hits all that hard. Vision has benefit of a great synergy with warlock that massively boost the attack of any immune champs.

Namor seems like a rank up for completely different purposes.

Colonaut123

If you need power control the first two are great. Also don’t use buffs and double immune which is always handy. Dorm has the benefit of being non robot for those nodes that place shock instead of bleeds or poisons, can deny an opponent ever getting a bar of power and also has good regen. Neither hits all that hard. Vision has benefit of a great synergy with warlock that massively boost the attack of any immune champs.

Namor seems like a rank up for completely different purposes.

^This. These days, every biohazard node is accompanied by nano-plague. A robot is no use. There are only a few non-robot champions, Dormammu is one of them.

Namor is best when awakened and at high sig.

Vision AoU is meh compared to og vision. I regret investing in him at all. There should be a Vision offer coming, the 5* is 1.5k units, which is pretty affordable.

Greekhit

If you need power control the first two are great. Also don’t use buffs and double immune which is always handy. Dorm has the benefit of being non robot for those nodes that place shock instead of bleeds or poisons, can deny an opponent ever getting a bar of power and also has good regen. Neither hits all that hard. Vision has benefit of a great synergy with warlock that massively boost the attack of any immune champs.

Namor seems like a rank up for completely different purposes.
^This. These days, every biohazard node is accompanied by nano-plague. A robot is no use. There are only a few non-robot champions, Dormammu is one of them.

Namor is best when awakened and at high sig.

Vision AoU is meh compared to og vision. I regret investing in him at all. There should be a Vision offer coming, the 5* is 1.5k units, which is pretty affordable.

OG Vision is an underrated beyond god tier champ.
It’s funny how the community is sleeping on him.
Last time Kabam offered him basically free (1500 units only for a great 5*), and people were debating if it was worth it 😂
I’m currently exploring Act6 and he is between my MVP’s.
He made 6.2.2 Sinister a total clown, backed in the corner with no power and heal blocked during all the fight, making it an easy solo 8 out of ten runs. The other two used Warlock and Guilly99.
Warlock was just ok, and Guilly99 was the best but needed to go in fight with the 100 hits prefight and don’t lose your combo.
From my experience OG Vision and robot synergy, is the most straightforward counter.
Also he is one of the few Dormammu counters that don’t require to turn off dexterity, to avoid the degen 😉

KDSuperFlash10

Vision for power control, Namor needs high sig to be really effective

MegaSkater67

I can tell you all about Dormammu, I just hope you like reading haha. Easily one of the best power control champs in the game in my opinion, doesn’t even need to be awakened. A lot of people only talk about him as a defender in wars, but his offensive value is not to be underestimated.

Dormammu:

A very useful utility champ, great for your own use as well as defence should you dupe him. His power control is one of the strongest in the game, arguably the best in some ways but a few champions can claim that title depending on personal preference. In my personal opinion though, Dormammu can be the most effective in a lot of situations.

Dark energy, Soul Bonds and ‘Quick Charging’:

* To place a soul bond, simply use a heavy attack on your opponent. This does not have much range so it can be difficult to punish some heavy attacks with it. Try to punish specials instead if you are unable to parry or use your heavy attack immediately after a SP2 with the opponent against the wall. This is completely safe with the right timing and can even set up a follow up 5 hit combo after the heavy attack lands.
* Soul bonds deal direct damage when a follow up heavy attack is used to detonate it. The damage dealt can vary depending on your attack rating, the strength of the active soul bond (up to 100), active boosts and certain resistances/class relationships. At 5/65, I can hit anywhere between 11,000 and 20,000 damage depending on the circumstances. Repeated use of this is key to making sure you get plenty of damage in.
* When your dark energy is full (I.e. reaches 100) you are considered to be **Imbued**. This will be very important when referring to each of his special attacks later as it provides bonuses to each.
* As a side note, an Imbued medium combo ender will deal a small amount of direct damage and reset your dark energy to 0. This can be useful as ‘Quick charging’ a soul bond will not work if you are already imbued.

Dormammu has a medium combo ender that does not generate power for the opponent. Instead, it drains power and gives you 30 dark energy. When you gain dark energy, a placed soul bond is charged by an equal amount, so that will be increased by 30 too. Both of these need to be at 100 to reach their full potential. To master dorm, you need to learn how to be good at becoming imbued as it makes each of his specials more powerful. There are many ways to do this including some nice little shortcuts to speed up the process. The thing to remember here is that even though you can completely shut down the opponent’s ability to gain power, it is sometimes more beneficial to let them gain it and use that to your own advantage. Power gain nodes are boosts to a skilled Dormammu player, not the opponent you’re facing. When an opponent uses a special attack, they are still considered to be losing power and it will always fully charge your soul bond and dark energy if they are not already at 100. This applies regardless of which special attack they use; it can be SP1, SP2 or even SP3. (Although I would not advise using SP3 to do this as you’re potentially going to take a lot of damage.) I like to refer to this method as ‘quick charging’ your dark energy/soul bond.

If you’re in a situation where you want avoid the possibility of the opponent using a special attack against you, it would be best to adjust your playstyle to use your medium combo ender more frequently. This could be as simple as only using two hit combos, or you may choose to add in one or two light attacks rather than the usual five. Either way, it’s relatively easy to play a full fight and never allow the opponent to gain a single bar of power. This helps to give him the edge in some fights over more well-known power control options such as Magik for example. Unlike Dormammu, Magik would need to gain at least two bars of power before she can start to control her opponent. We recently had a fight with Symbiote Supreme in the latest Boss Rush challenge where he would begin the fight close to 3 bars of power. Dormammu was able to keep that under control and prevent him from reaching SP3 quite easily. This is where he really starts to shine in terms of power control in my opinion, because he can essentially combine some of the best parts of Magik and Vision and put them together when he needs to.

Special Attacks:

**SP1:** With mystic dispersion this can be a very useful attack. If you are not imbued, you can nullify one buff from the opponent and gain 50 dark energy/charge your soul bond by 50. If you are imbued, you can nullify EVERY buff the opponent has. If it’s 2 or more, you will instantly be imbued, have a fully charged soul bond immediately after and potentially have a SP2 ready or SP3 from THE mystic dispersion mastery. This is ideal for medusa who needs fury to autoblock or for buff reliant champions such as Venom or Groot. If it’s a buff, he’ll remove it regardless of how many there are.

**SP2**: combined with your medium attack power drain this special can completely shut down your opponent’s power. If you are not imbued you will place a guaranteed power lock without draining power (you can however, chain into this attack from your medium for a small drain before the lock).

If you are imbued, each of your projectiles (3 total) will drain 20% of your opponent’s power bar for a 60% reduction. To put this into perspective, Magik will steal 33% power from her opponent on a SP2 attack, but she has the added bonus of taking that power herself to balance it out. The best way to use SP2 with Dormammu is to chain from a medium attack. You will get the imbued effects of your medium (direct damage as well as power drain) AND still get the power drain from your SP2. You should be imbued immediately after and have a fully charged soul bond if you’d placed one before using it.

**SP3**: if you are not imbued you will gain a dimensional link giving you a constant flow of dark energy. Essentially, you’ll be imbued almost all of the time and your soul bond will just automatically charge with it.

If imbued you get an empowered dimensional link instead providing the same benefits as before with the added bonus of being able to regenerate 25% of the damage done by a soul bond detonation instantly. So fully charge your soul bond, use an imbued SP3, then detonate the bond with a heavy attack to heal and deal a big chunk of damage. If done correctly, you can place another bond, charge it and heal again before the duration expires.

Signature Ability:

Most people are familiar with this as it allows Dormammu to be a much stronger defender in Alliance Wars. It gives him the ability to apply a passive degeneration on the opponent whenever a buff expires or gets nullified. This degeneration can reset easily, but it does not stack. Offensively this can be nice as it allows him to deal constant damage over time to help him end fights a bit more quickly. Dormammu can bring a lot of utility to your team but he is not the best option for dealing large amounts of damage. His signature ability will help him to compensate for that.

Extra bonuses:

* All of Dormammu’s attacks deal energy damage. This makes him a perfect counter to korg but weak against Ultron. Physical resistance will not reduce your damage.
* He can be an excellent defender if you place him on the right nodes. My 5/65 almost always gets a kill on the 200% power gain mini in tier 4.
* He is a viable attacker in all tiers of Alliance war, I used him in tier 2 for months and he always added a lot of value to my team.
* Dormammu is immune to both bleed and poison, this makes him a great option for biohazard nodes.
* His XL tag makes him incredibly useful for variant 2. I relied heavily on Dormammu and Venom when I was going for full exploration.

MadEyeMoody_333

I would suggest Vision.. He is very underrated, i too had him and he is pretty great in clearing content for mid level progression (since you are asking about 4* i am assuming you are at mid level of progression) and believe me his double immunity will come handy. Plus on power burn his damage is pretty good, better than dormammu I cleared so many content because of him. Namor is niche and would require high sig level.

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shield456

Namor no question then VOU

shield456

You have a 4star namor here is a 3star

https://youtu.be/a6Jrrwgf8uA
This will give u an idea on whom to rank up.

Rank 5 namor asap

UnidentifiedCreature

Vision is alright. Dormammu has better power control than Namor, but his damage sucks. Namor's damage is awesome, but he doesn't have much utility unless he's ata high sig level.

J0E_Hardy

I would suggest Vision.. He is very underrated, i too had him and he is pretty great in clearing content for mid level progression (since you are asking about 4* i am assuming you are at mid level of progression) and believe me his double immunity will come handy. Plus on power burn his damage is pretty good, better than dormammu I cleared so many content because of him. Namor is niche and would require high sig level.

I'm at start of act 4 XD

J0E_Hardy

I can tell you all about Dormammu, I just hope you like reading haha. Easily one of the best power control champs in the game in my opinion, doesn’t even need to be awakened. A lot of people only talk about him as a defender in wars, but his offensive value is not to be underestimated.

Dormammu:

A very useful utility champ, great for your own use as well as defence should you dupe him. His power control is one of the strongest in the game, arguably the best in some ways but a few champions can claim that title depending on personal preference. In my personal opinion though, Dormammu can be the most effective in a lot of situations.

Dark energy, Soul Bonds and ‘Quick Charging’:

* To place a soul bond, simply use a heavy attack on your opponent. This does not have much range so it can be difficult to punish some heavy attacks with it. Try to punish specials instead if you are unable to parry or use your heavy attack immediately after a SP2 with the opponent against the wall. This is completely safe with the right timing and can even set up a follow up 5 hit combo after the heavy attack lands.
* Soul bonds deal direct damage when a follow up heavy attack is used to detonate it. The damage dealt can vary depending on your attack rating, the strength of the active soul bond (up to 100), active boosts and certain resistances/class relationships. At 5/65, I can hit anywhere between 11,000 and 20,000 damage depending on the circumstances. Repeated use of this is key to making sure you get plenty of damage in.
* When your dark energy is full (I.e. reaches 100) you are considered to be **Imbued**. This will be very important when referring to each of his special attacks later as it provides bonuses to each.
* As a side note, an Imbued medium combo ender will deal a small amount of direct damage and reset your dark energy to 0. This can be useful as ‘Quick charging’ a soul bond will not work if you are already imbued.

Dormammu has a medium combo ender that does not generate power for the opponent. Instead, it drains power and gives you 30 dark energy. When you gain dark energy, a placed soul bond is charged by an equal amount, so that will be increased by 30 too. Both of these need to be at 100 to reach their full potential. To master dorm, you need to learn how to be good at becoming imbued as it makes each of his specials more powerful. There are many ways to do this including some nice little shortcuts to speed up the process. The thing to remember here is that even though you can completely shut down the opponent’s ability to gain power, it is sometimes more beneficial to let them gain it and use that to your own advantage. Power gain nodes are boosts to a skilled Dormammu player, not the opponent you’re facing. When an opponent uses a special attack, they are still considered to be losing power and it will always fully charge your soul bond and dark energy if they are not already at 100. This applies regardless of which special attack they use; it can be SP1, SP2 or even SP3. (Although I would not advise using SP3 to do this as you’re potentially going to take a lot of damage.) I like to refer to this method as ‘quick charging’ your dark energy/soul bond.

If you’re in a situation where you want avoid the possibility of the opponent using a special attack against you, it would be best to adjust your playstyle to use your medium combo ender more frequently. This could be as simple as only using two hit combos, or you may choose to add in one or two light attacks rather than the usual five. Either way, it’s relatively easy to play a full fight and never allow the opponent to gain a single bar of power. This helps to give him the edge in some fights over more well-known power control options such as Magik for example. Unlike Dormammu, Magik would need to gain at least two bars of power before she can start to control her opponent. We recently had a fight with Symbiote Supreme in the latest Boss Rush challenge where he would begin the fight close to 3 bars of power. Dormammu was able to keep that under control and prevent him from reaching SP3 quite easily. This is where he really starts to shine in terms of power control in my opinion, because he can essentially combine some of the best parts of Magik and Vision and put them together when he needs to.

Special Attacks:

**SP1:** With mystic dispersion this can be a very useful attack. If you are not imbued, you can nullify one buff from the opponent and gain 50 dark energy/charge your soul bond by 50. If you are imbued, you can nullify EVERY buff the opponent has. If it’s 2 or more, you will instantly be imbued, have a fully charged soul bond immediately after and potentially have a SP2 ready or SP3 from THE mystic dispersion mastery. This is ideal for medusa who needs fury to autoblock or for buff reliant champions such as Venom or Groot. If it’s a buff, he’ll remove it regardless of how many there are.

**SP2**: combined with your medium attack power drain this special can completely shut down your opponent’s power. If you are not imbued you will place a guaranteed power lock without draining power (you can however, chain into this attack from your medium for a small drain before the lock).

If you are imbued, each of your projectiles (3 total) will drain 20% of your opponent’s power bar for a 60% reduction. To put this into perspective, Magik will steal 33% power from her opponent on a SP2 attack, but she has the added bonus of taking that power herself to balance it out. The best way to use SP2 with Dormammu is to chain from a medium attack. You will get the imbued effects of your medium (direct damage as well as power drain) AND still get the power drain from your SP2. You should be imbued immediately after and have a fully charged soul bond if you’d placed one before using it.

**SP3**: if you are not imbued you will gain a dimensional link giving you a constant flow of dark energy. Essentially, you’ll be imbued almost all of the time and your soul bond will just automatically charge with it.

If imbued you get an empowered dimensional link instead providing the same benefits as before with the added bonus of being able to regenerate 25% of the damage done by a soul bond detonation instantly. So fully charge your soul bond, use an imbued SP3, then detonate the bond with a heavy attack to heal and deal a big chunk of damage. If done correctly, you can place another bond, charge it and heal again before the duration expires.

Signature Ability:

Most people are familiar with this as it allows Dormammu to be a much stronger defender in Alliance Wars. It gives him the ability to apply a passive degeneration on the opponent whenever a buff expires or gets nullified. This degeneration can reset easily, but it does not stack. Offensively this can be nice as it allows him to deal constant damage over time to help him end fights a bit more quickly. Dormammu can bring a lot of utility to your team but he is not the best option for dealing large amounts of damage. His signature ability will help him to compensate for that.

Extra bonuses:

* All of Dormammu’s attacks deal energy damage. This makes him a perfect counter to korg but weak against Ultron. Physical resistance will not reduce your damage.
* He can be an excellent defender if you place him on the right nodes. My 5/65 almost always gets a kill on the 200% power gain mini in tier 4.
* He is a viable attacker in all tiers of Alliance war, I used him in tier 2 for months and he always added a lot of value to my team.
* Dormammu is immune to both bleed and poison, this makes him a great option for biohazard nodes.
* His XL tag makes him incredibly useful for variant 2. I relied heavily on Dormammu and Venom when I was going for full exploration.

Thanks lol. I think I will rank up Dormammu simply cuz I have not many mystic anyway