Ghost any good without Antman or Wasp ??

Iryse

Does Ghost need synergy to be great at all or she can do good without synergies ??

Kill_Grey

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Worknprogress

Considering she's exactly the same champ just slightly harder to use, yes I'd definitely say so

Etjama

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

Kill_Grey

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Etjama

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

But it's just so false.

Kill_Grey

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

But it's just so false.

But it's not not true

Etjama

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

But it's just so false.

But it's not not true

That statement is also false.

Kill_Grey

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

But it's just so false.

But it's not not true

That statement is also false.

But if that statement is false, then it means your statement is false, which means that my statement is also false if and only if our statements are both false, which leaves one thing:

That Groot is truly the champ that stands tall above all others...

Rockypantherx

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Etjama

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

My manz is spittin' straight fax.

Kill_Grey

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

Safenos

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both

And it seems that you don't know how to use ghost

Etjama

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

This is a falsehood. Quake counters much, much more. It is not close.

Rockypantherx

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

No. It’s not. Come back and tell me that after Act 6 100%. Then I’ll take you seriously

Etjama

Safenos said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both

And it seems that you don't know how to use ghost

And it seems that you don't know how to use Quake.

Kill_Grey

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

This is a falsehood. Quake counters much, much more. It is not close.

And you have both ranked up, right?

Rockypantherx

Safenos said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both

And it seems that you don't know how to use ghost

Considering I got her a year and half ago, and was my second R5, used her for LOL exploration, V3 100% and was my most used for act 6 100%, I’m going to go ahead and say you’re talking s***

Kill_Grey

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

No. It’s not. Come back and tell me that after Act 6 100%. Then I’ll take you seriously

You just had to bring out the trump card, didn't you? 😐

Etjama

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

This is a falsehood. Quake counters much, much more. It is not close.

And you have both ranked up, right?

Don't need Ghost. Cause I have the best champ in the game at R5.

Rockypantherx

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

No. It’s not. Come back and tell me that after Act 6 100%. Then I’ll take you seriously

You just had to bring out the **** card, didn't you? 😐

Well it’s the most difficult and roster stressing content in the game. I didn’t have Quake for act 6 100%. I had ghost all the way through it. And almost every path I had a moment where I went “I wish I had a 5* Quake”.

Kill_Grey

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

No. It’s not. Come back and tell me that after Act 6 100%. Then I’ll take you seriously

You just had to bring out the **** card, didn't you? 😐

Well it’s the most difficult and roster stressing content in the game. I didn’t have Quake for act 6 100%. I had ghost all the way through it. And almost every path I had a moment where I went “I wish I had a 5* Quake”.

Yeah, I'm not sure why that word got censored honestly.

But nevertheless, I'll just combine them and run through the content, problem solved.

Etjama

Ghost's abilites do not beat 100% AAR with almost 100% uptime and no contact with the opponent whatsoever. It just doesn't. That's fact.

SpideyFunko

Safenos said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both

And it seems that you don't know how to use ghost

And it seems that you don’t know how to use Quake

Rockypantherx

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

No. It’s not. Come back and tell me that after Act 6 100%. Then I’ll take you seriously

You just had to bring out the **** card, didn't you? 😐

Well it’s the most difficult and roster stressing content in the game. I didn’t have Quake for act 6 100%. I had ghost all the way through it. And almost every path I had a moment where I went “I wish I had a 5* Quake”.

Yeah, I'm not sure why that word got censored honestly.

But nevertheless, I'll just combine them and run through the content, problem solved.

Oh absolutely. Between them they counter 95% of things. All you’re really missing is power control and nullify. Can even get around that in some scenarios

Kill_Grey

Etjama said:

Ghost's abilites do not beat 100% AAR with almost 100% uptime and no contact with the opponent whatsoever. It just doesn't. That's fact.

Quake's abilities do not beat situations where you actually have to hit the opponent, coupled with an insanely easily adjustable playstyle with debuff shrug off and evade counter with 100% uptime. That's fact.

Kill_Grey

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Rockypantherx said:

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Kill_Grey said:

Without synergies, she's still a top 2 champ. It is probably under that condition that I'd put Quake ahead of her, but with synergies, it's ghost at the top, imo.

Agree with the first part, hard disagree with the second. I think I'll just settle for an lol.

But it's true.

Quake is better than ghost and it’s not close. I have both. Although ghost is better than every other champ other than Quake and that isn’t close either

Well yeah, I have both too as rank 5 5*s, and it IS close between them, and quite a toss up at that.

No. It’s not. Come back and tell me that after Act 6 100%. Then I’ll take you seriously

You just had to bring out the **** card, didn't you? 😐

Well it’s the most difficult and roster stressing content in the game. I didn’t have Quake for act 6 100%. I had ghost all the way through it. And almost every path I had a moment where I went “I wish I had a 5* Quake”.

Yeah, I'm not sure why that word got censored honestly.

But nevertheless, I'll just combine them and run through the content, problem solved.

Oh absolutely. Between them they counter 95% of things. All you’re really missing is power control and nullify. Can even get around that in some scenarios

Yeah, I've got those fronts covered as well.

The only type of power control I feel I'm missing is doc ock type power control in environments where the opponent has unfair passive power gain.

Rockypantherx

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Ghost's abilites do not beat 100% AAR with almost 100% uptime and no contact with the opponent whatsoever. It just doesn't. That's fact.

Quake's abilities do not beat situations where you actually have to hit the opponent, coupled with an insanely easily adjustable playstyle with debuff shrug off and evade counter with 100% uptime. That's fact.

Except, you know, they do.

Most situations outside of the ‘aggression’ nodes it is beneficial to not hit the opponent as pretty much every defensive node and ability activates as a result of hitting the opponent

Quake shuts down a lot of those debuffs being placed in the first place. See Morningstar, Biohazard, freezer burn, etc, etc

Quake doesn’t give a **** about evade since she doesn’t hit the opponent. Refer to my earlier point about most defensive nodes and abilities triggering as a result of hits

Thicco_Mode

Dr_Centino said:

Without Antman: YES DEFINITELY.
Without Wasp: YES.
Without hood: Yes.

Yeah this sums it up nicely haha. Hood synergy adds a whole new layer to her, wasp is generally unneeded but can be useful when you have a fight where you need to be launching sp2s quickly, and antman is some more damage