Spider-Ham question

I’m having trouble understanding why he’s taking the same amount of damage despite having more nonsense in the second image. Additionally, I noticed that when he’s taking degen, if your spider nonsense goes up, it doesn’t actually affect that current degen damage, only future degen effects. Is that supposed to happen?

Edit: the node is brute force, so the degen in the second photo is a different degeneration from the first image.

Comments

MCOCHazza

He is also taking damage from bane when at 8 nonsense (should be 120% reduction in potency), similar to brute force as I also had 8 nonsense and I was still taking damage.

DonDudu2809

Kabam addressed this a few times already. Those aren't really degeneration debuffs...they aren't passives either. They are like a 3rd type of "debuffs". It is the same story for Gulk's Face me...You just can't prevent the damage from those unless you are indestructible.

MCOCHazza

Kabam addressed this a few times already. Those aren't really degeneration debuffs...they aren't passives either. They are like a 3rd type of "debuffs". It is the same story for Gulk's Face me...You just can't prevent the damage from those unless you are indestructible.

That’s interesting. Thank you

MCOCHazza

Do you have the link to where they said that? It’s just a bit confusing since Spider-Ham can mitigate no retreat, but not bane or brute force. I’d like to know what classifies this ‘other type of effect’

MCOCHazza

And what about the nonsense increase not affecting current degeneration? Because if it doesn’t affect current degeneration then that would mean that link shield and aspect of nightmares can’t be mitigated