@StevieManWonder Elsa still Does Well Against incinerate/coldsnap Immune, highest crit chance in game, has counter evade to give easy openings, selective timestream buffed up diss track, counters evade, crit me with your best shot, pleasure to burn, non dmging debuff shrug off, (long distance relationship,spry,gassed,etc.) masochism (with suicides) and increased power gain when rounds are out, Not to mention the cruelties from sp3.
Ronin still has a higher Crit chance than her when he has his Precision Passive up, which is most of the time. His Passive Fury from his sp3 is more potent than her Cruelties. He shrugs off all debuffs. Plus, he has one of the most important uses in the game: Making Ant-Man even more amazing.
Elsa's precision from sp1 stays on till the next special is thrown and increases her crit chance by even more. And if you spam sp1 and your crit masteries are maxed she crits so much. Not to mention the busted damage that occurs each time you crit
Doesn’t change the fact that Ronin crits pretty much every hit with his passive up and doesn’t rely on special attacks. If you’re in Wraith stance, you bleed the opponent on almost every hit.
The fight's faster with elsa but for ronin you need to build up to the sp3 for the massive damage and elsa's a way better evade counter too
It’s true that Elsa outdamages Ronin without his fury, but damage isn’t everything. She’s a better evade counter, but that’s the only utility that she does better
Do buffed up with him better than elsa. Diss track too
Ronin can’t do buffed up, which is why I didn’t list it. Also, Elsa is a terrible choice for buffed up, I’d only use her if I didn’t have like fifteen other champions. Diss Track he does just as well if not better
That is so not true dude. You get the sp3 and you get 3 cruelties which can easily be refreshed. The sp1 gives an unlimited preicision too. Watch from 0:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfSnCcigjMI
Lol, that's a 90 hit fight that didn't need to be anywhere close to that. Plus that looks like a 6* R3 to me. If you can't get them down in 1 Sp3 cycle, you've gotta throw a whole nother Sp3 and the fights just going to be twice as long. She is nowhere even close to a top buffed up option.
@StevieManWonder Elsa still Does Well Against incinerate/coldsnap Immune, highest crit chance in game, has counter evade to give easy openings, selective timestream buffed up diss track, counters evade, crit me with your best shot, pleasure to burn, non dmging debuff shrug off, (long distance relationship,spry,gassed,etc.) masochism (with suicides) and increased power gain when rounds are out, Not to mention the cruelties from sp3.
Ronin still has a higher Crit chance than her when he has his Precision Passive up, which is most of the time. His Passive Fury from his sp3 is more potent than her Cruelties. He shrugs off all debuffs. Plus, he has one of the most important uses in the game: Making Ant-Man even more amazing.
Elsa's precision from sp1 stays on till the next special is thrown and increases her crit chance by even more. And if you spam sp1 and your crit masteries are maxed she crits so much. Not to mention the busted damage that occurs each time you crit
Doesn’t change the fact that Ronin crits pretty much every hit with his passive up and doesn’t rely on special attacks. If you’re in Wraith stance, you bleed the opponent on almost every hit.
The fight's faster with elsa but for ronin you need to build up to the sp3 for the massive damage and elsa's a way better evade counter too
It’s true that Elsa outdamages Ronin without his fury, but damage isn’t everything. She’s a better evade counter, but that’s the only utility that she does better
Do buffed up with him better than elsa. Diss track too
Ronin can’t do buffed up, which is why I didn’t list it. Also, Elsa is a terrible choice for buffed up, I’d only use her if I didn’t have like fifteen other champions. Diss Track he does just as well if not better
That is so not true dude. You get the sp3 and you get 3 cruelties which can easily be refreshed. The sp1 gives an unlimited preicision too. Watch from 0:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfSnCcigjMI
Lol, that's a 90 hit fight that didn't need to be anywhere close to that. Plus that looks like a 6* R3 to me. If you can't get them down in 1 Sp3 cycle, you've gotta throw a whole nother Sp3 and the fights just going to be twice as long. She is nowhere even close to a top buffed up option.
Dude after the sp3 throw the sp1 to get the precision. She's definitely a top buffed up option once u reach the sp3. I used her in the cav eq so much for buffed up. Also if you dont have the patience to reach the sp3 then idek man...
Weren’t you just complaining about Ronin needing to use his sp3?
Anyways, there’s tons of better Buffed Up options. Like Venom, he’s immediately useable at the start of the fight
@StevieManWonder Elsa still Does Well Against incinerate/coldsnap Immune, highest crit chance in game, has counter evade to give easy openings, selective timestream buffed up diss track, counters evade, crit me with your best shot, pleasure to burn, non dmging debuff shrug off, (long distance relationship,spry,gassed,etc.) masochism (with suicides) and increased power gain when rounds are out, Not to mention the cruelties from sp3.
Ronin still has a higher Crit chance than her when he has his Precision Passive up, which is most of the time. His Passive Fury from his sp3 is more potent than her Cruelties. He shrugs off all debuffs. Plus, he has one of the most important uses in the game: Making Ant-Man even more amazing.
Elsa's precision from sp1 stays on till the next special is thrown and increases her crit chance by even more. And if you spam sp1 and your crit masteries are maxed she crits so much. Not to mention the busted damage that occurs each time you crit
Doesn’t change the fact that Ronin crits pretty much every hit with his passive up and doesn’t rely on special attacks. If you’re in Wraith stance, you bleed the opponent on almost every hit.
The fight's faster with elsa but for ronin you need to build up to the sp3 for the massive damage and elsa's a way better evade counter too
It’s true that Elsa outdamages Ronin without his fury, but damage isn’t everything. She’s a better evade counter, but that’s the only utility that she does better
Do buffed up with him better than elsa. Diss track too
Ronin can’t do buffed up, which is why I didn’t list it. Also, Elsa is a terrible choice for buffed up, I’d only use her if I didn’t have like fifteen other champions. Diss Track he does just as well if not better
That is so not true dude. You get the sp3 and you get 3 cruelties which can easily be refreshed. The sp1 gives an unlimited preicision too. Watch from 0:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfSnCcigjMI
Lol, that's a 90 hit fight that didn't need to be anywhere close to that. Plus that looks like a 6* R3 to me. If you can't get them down in 1 Sp3 cycle, you've gotta throw a whole nother Sp3 and the fights just going to be twice as long. She is nowhere even close to a top buffed up option.
Dude after the sp3 throw the sp1 to get the precision. She's definitely a top buffed up option once u reach the sp3. I used her in the cav eq so much for buffed up. Also if you dont have the patience to reach the sp3 then idek man...
Or you can use pretty much any Cosmic champ like CMM, Hype, Venom, or other champs like Magneto, Colossus, Medusa, Ghost, and get the fights down in half the time. Again, she's nowhere near the best option and like Stevie said, you were just complaining about Ronin needing to use a Sp3.
She can't parry Rhino, mighty charge, UC after a special, etc. without getting hammered.
Hit their block and parry their light attacks.....
That only works on Mighty charge and Rhino. And why would you ever want to do that? Just use anyone else so you don't have to change your playstyle just to avoid getting destroyed by unstoppable. And hitting Rhino's and champs with mighty charge's block is risky anyways since they could dash in on you and you can't intercept.
"Just use anyone else".....
And yes, anyone else cause she's literally the worst option for unstoppable matchups.
She can't parry Rhino, mighty charge, UC after a special, etc. without getting hammered.
Hit their block and parry their light attacks.....
That only works on Mighty charge and Rhino. And why would you ever want to do that? Just use anyone else so you don't have to change your playstyle just to avoid getting destroyed by unstoppable. And hitting Rhino's and champs with mighty charge's block is risky anyways since they could dash in on you and you can't intercept.
"Just use anyone else".....
And yes, anyone else cause she's literally the worst option for unstoppable matchups.
That's so not true. Just cause you cant wait out the unstoppable doesnt mean that she the worst option wtf
She is literally the only champ in the game that can't parry their dash attacks without getting wrecked. So yes.
She can't parry Rhino, mighty charge, UC after a special, etc. without getting hammered.
Hit their block and parry their light attacks.....
That only works on Mighty charge and Rhino. And why would you ever want to do that? Just use anyone else so you don't have to change your playstyle just to avoid getting destroyed by unstoppable. And hitting Rhino's and champs with mighty charge's block is risky anyways since they could dash in on you and you can't intercept.
"Just use anyone else".....
And yes, anyone else cause she's literally the worst option for unstoppable matchups.
That's so not true. Just cause you cant wait out the unstoppable doesnt mean that she the worst option wtf
She is literally the only champ in the game that can't parry their dash attacks without getting wrecked. So yes.
Hey genius here's an idea. "Dex" the hit they throw at you instead of parrying it when they're unstoppable
You are completely missing the point, "genius". I never said there's no way around it, but why would you ever want to use the only champion that can't parry an unstoppable attack on an unstoppable champ or node? It makes no sense at all.
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Anyways, there’s tons of better Buffed Up options. Like Venom, he’s immediately useable at the start of the fight