5* or 6* Rankup?

MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★
edited January 2021 in Strategy and Tips
I recently duped 6* Gwen from a featured. I was bummed at first, but ive been messing around with her and shes awesome! Now i have a max sig 5*, but i also have the duped 6*. Theyre both level 25/r4 level right now.

Duped 6* or Max Sig 5*?
Higher base stats:Advantage 6*
Less Cost:Advantage 5*
Higher Sig:Advantage 5*
Sig Use:Increases Duration on Stuff and Slightly Harder Hitting
Meta Im Shifting To:6*

Im pretty sure i am gonna do the 6*, what do you guys think?

I would consider taking her to r3 and shed be a top choice in my books, so im leaning towards the 6*.
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  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    As you said, the meta is moving towards 6*. Ranking her up is an investment, and you've already done the hard part of duping her in the first place. From there it's placing stones into her if you really want, or just hoping to continually dupe her.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    As you said, the meta is moving towards 6*. Ranking her up is an investment, and you've already done the hard part of duping her in the first place. From there it's placing stones into her if you really want, or just hoping to continually dupe her.

    I have a duped r3 6* Torch and a 6* Void awaiting a dupe, so most likely no stones.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    ItsDamien said:

    As you said, the meta is moving towards 6*. Ranking her up is an investment, and you've already done the hard part of duping her in the first place. From there it's placing stones into her if you really want, or just hoping to continually dupe her.

    I have a duped r3 6* Torch and a 6* Void awaiting a dupe, so most likely no stones.
    For sure, but there's skill stones to use which doesn't benefit those two. Ultimately it's your choice, unless there's another skill (Aegon) that you're saving those stones for.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    ItsDamien said:

    As you said, the meta is moving towards 6*. Ranking her up is an investment, and you've already done the hard part of duping her in the first place. From there it's placing stones into her if you really want, or just hoping to continually dupe her.

    I have a duped r3 6* Torch and a 6* Void awaiting a dupe, so most likely no stones.
    For sure, but there's skill stones to use which doesn't benefit those two. Ultimately it's your choice, unless there's another skill (Aegon) that you're saving those stones for.
    Yeah. Im currently putting generics in Namor, and im 14 stones from a max sig Aegon.
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★
    Definitely the six star
  • MegaSkater67MegaSkater67 Member Posts: 1,380 ★★★★
    Spider-Gwen is one of my absolute favourites, I have a sig 200 5/65 and will definitely be taking me 6* to rank 3 as soon as I’m able. Haven’t managed to awaken her yet, but I’d rank her regardless personally. If you can pick up all the little tricks she can do she’s extremely good for a lot of different things.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★

    Spider-Gwen is one of my absolute favourites, I have a sig 200 5/65 and will definitely be taking me 6* to rank 3 as soon as I’m able. Haven’t managed to awaken her yet, but I’d rank her regardless personally. If you can pick up all the little tricks she can do she’s extremely good for a lot of different things.

    So the 6* or the 5*? Youre a very good judge of underrated characters so now i know its the right decision.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    ItsDamien said:

    ItsDamien said:

    As you said, the meta is moving towards 6*. Ranking her up is an investment, and you've already done the hard part of duping her in the first place. From there it's placing stones into her if you really want, or just hoping to continually dupe her.

    I have a duped r3 6* Torch and a 6* Void awaiting a dupe, so most likely no stones.
    For sure, but there's skill stones to use which doesn't benefit those two. Ultimately it's your choice, unless there's another skill (Aegon) that you're saving those stones for.
    Yeah. Im currently putting generics in Namor, and im 14 stones from a max sig Aegon.
    I just realised that you meant Spider Gwen.... and not Gwenpool..... I just woke up from a nap when I commented.

    I feel like an idiot now lmao.
    .
    I'd take her to R3 in a heart beat.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    ItsDamien said:

    ItsDamien said:

    As you said, the meta is moving towards 6*. Ranking her up is an investment, and you've already done the hard part of duping her in the first place. From there it's placing stones into her if you really want, or just hoping to continually dupe her.

    I have a duped r3 6* Torch and a 6* Void awaiting a dupe, so most likely no stones.
    For sure, but there's skill stones to use which doesn't benefit those two. Ultimately it's your choice, unless there's another skill (Aegon) that you're saving those stones for.
    Yeah. Im currently putting generics in Namor, and im 14 stones from a max sig Aegon.
    I just realised that you meant Spider Gwen.... and not Gwenpool..... I just woke up from a nap when I commented.

    I feel like an idiot now lmao.
    .
    I'd take her to R3 in a heart beat.
    Haha its fine. Im like 1/2 to another science t5cc i think.
  • MegaSkater67MegaSkater67 Member Posts: 1,380 ★★★★

    Spider-Gwen is one of my absolute favourites, I have a sig 200 5/65 and will definitely be taking me 6* to rank 3 as soon as I’m able. Haven’t managed to awaken her yet, but I’d rank her regardless personally. If you can pick up all the little tricks she can do she’s extremely good for a lot of different things.

    So the 6* or the 5*? Youre a very good judge of underrated characters so now i know its the right decision.
    What sig level would each be? The sig isn’t essential but it’s very nice to have. The extended duration on both modes is helpful and the longer slow can sometimes be of use too. A great trick with her is to go directly into a heavy attack after using your SP1 and then pin the opponent there by spamming those heavy attacks over and over whilst enervate is up. Does big damage, constantly refreshes slow and the opponent can’t do anything about it. One of the bigger parts of the sig is that it will allow her to reverse healing after a SP2, which can be quite handy with the right timing for many nodes/abilities and gives you a reset when facing champs like sabretooth.

    I would rank 3 an unduped Spider-Gwen though, so if you like using her and would be considering taking her to that rank then I would opt for the 6* personally. She is worth the stones if you get them though, especially since she’ll be at a higher rank.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★

    Spider-Gwen is one of my absolute favourites, I have a sig 200 5/65 and will definitely be taking me 6* to rank 3 as soon as I’m able. Haven’t managed to awaken her yet, but I’d rank her regardless personally. If you can pick up all the little tricks she can do she’s extremely good for a lot of different things.

    So the 6* or the 5*? Youre a very good judge of underrated characters so now i know its the right decision.
    What sig level would each be? The sig isn’t essential but it’s very nice to have. The extended duration on both modes is helpful and the longer slow can sometimes be of use too. A great trick with her is to go directly into a heavy attack after using your SP1 and then pin the opponent there by spamming those heavy attacks over and over whilst enervate is up. Does big damage, constantly refreshes slow and the opponent can’t do anything about it. One of the bigger parts of the sig is that it will allow her to reverse healing after a SP2, which can be quite handy with the right timing for many nodes/abilities and gives you a reset when facing champs like sabretooth.

    I would rank 3 an unduped Spider-Gwen though, so if you like using her and would be considering taking her to that rank then I would opt for the 6* personally. She is worth the stones if you get them though, especially since she’ll be at a higher rank.
    I knew about that sp1 thing, but im not too good at it yet. It would be 200 vs 20(6*) and chances are sigs will go to Torch until i dupe Void. That said, i have like 40 r5s, and im trying to shift to 6*s, but her sig seemed really good. I would definitely r3 her.
  • EtherealityEthereality Member Posts: 685 ★★★
    edited January 2021
    The general consensus is that R2'ing a 6* is more beneficial in the long run than R5'ing a 5*, specially if they are both duped. Even in some cases ranking an unduped 6* is more advisable than ranking the same 5* champ duped. This is when the sig ability is not necessarily needed ... for example, I wouldn't hesitate to R2 an unduped Doom over a 5* duped Doom. You mention using 6* sig stones on Human Torch for example... sorry but I digress, stones on Human Torch are bit needed, and this is coming from someone whi has a r5 5* x80 sig Human Torch... should I have had the unduped 6* version I wouldn't have hesitated to R2'ing it iver the 5*. His sig is only needed in Abyss and similar content when you might want to use his pre-fight ability more than once per quest... outside of that is rarely needed. Even if duped and high sig, all that would do is guarantee access to his pre-fight ability every 3 or 4 fights IF YOU ARE LUCKY... definetely a waste of sig stones if you ask me.

    There is only one case when R5'ing a 5* is more advisable than R2'ing (and even R3'ing) a 6*, and it is when high/maxxed sig ability is absolutely essential for accesing most of the champ's utility. For example, CAIW, Omega Red, Void, Aegon, Nighthrasher, Collosus, Morningstar, Archangel,etc... are all better as a maxxed or almost maxxed sig R5 5* than as a low sig R2 or even R3 6*.

    Now, in which category does Gwen fit? To be completely honest I dunno as I dont have her. From your description it seems to me that the sig is indeed nice to have but not necessarily needed at high/maxxed level... thus I think I would go with the 6* if I were you. Play both versions a lot before taking the decision, that way you'll see for yourself how much of a maxxed sig makes a difference.
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  • MegaSkater67MegaSkater67 Member Posts: 1,380 ★★★★

    Spider-Gwen is one of my absolute favourites, I have a sig 200 5/65 and will definitely be taking me 6* to rank 3 as soon as I’m able. Haven’t managed to awaken her yet, but I’d rank her regardless personally. If you can pick up all the little tricks she can do she’s extremely good for a lot of different things.

    So the 6* or the 5*? Youre a very good judge of underrated characters so now i know its the right decision.
    What sig level would each be? The sig isn’t essential but it’s very nice to have. The extended duration on both modes is helpful and the longer slow can sometimes be of use too. A great trick with her is to go directly into a heavy attack after using your SP1 and then pin the opponent there by spamming those heavy attacks over and over whilst enervate is up. Does big damage, constantly refreshes slow and the opponent can’t do anything about it. One of the bigger parts of the sig is that it will allow her to reverse healing after a SP2, which can be quite handy with the right timing for many nodes/abilities and gives you a reset when facing champs like sabretooth.

    I would rank 3 an unduped Spider-Gwen though, so if you like using her and would be considering taking her to that rank then I would opt for the 6* personally. She is worth the stones if you get them though, especially since she’ll be at a higher rank.
    I knew about that sp1 thing, but im not too good at it yet. It would be 200 vs 20(6*) and chances are sigs will go to Torch until i dupe Void. That said, i have like 40 r5s, and im trying to shift to 6*s, but her sig seemed really good. I would definitely r3 her.
    It is great, but still not essential. It’s good in the way that Gwen is a brilliant champ to have with or without it, I would certainly invest in that 6* you have. At the moment my 6* is at rank two and I’m using them both at the same time. I prioritise the 5* where I can just because she’s sig 200, but if she’s tied up in war I still carry on questing with the 6* and she does absolutely fine without it. Sometimes I even run both of them in the same quest haha, her level of usefulness is really quite impressive. One thing I will say though is I’m a big fan of the Gwenom rising synergy, which is easy to use because I like to bring venom or sometimes symbiote supreme for a lot of content; having that increased attack can be beneficial. That being said, this is also not essential and without it she’ll be able to have a 100% chance to evade unblockable specials at 3 charges rather than 6. And with her being awakened you still get a few benefits from the sig even if it’s not yet at full potential. You could always add more levels to that if you happen to pull her again. 100% worth the rank up in my opinion.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★

    Spider-Gwen is one of my absolute favourites, I have a sig 200 5/65 and will definitely be taking me 6* to rank 3 as soon as I’m able. Haven’t managed to awaken her yet, but I’d rank her regardless personally. If you can pick up all the little tricks she can do she’s extremely good for a lot of different things.

    So the 6* or the 5*? Youre a very good judge of underrated characters so now i know its the right decision.
    What sig level would each be? The sig isn’t essential but it’s very nice to have. The extended duration on both modes is helpful and the longer slow can sometimes be of use too. A great trick with her is to go directly into a heavy attack after using your SP1 and then pin the opponent there by spamming those heavy attacks over and over whilst enervate is up. Does big damage, constantly refreshes slow and the opponent can’t do anything about it. One of the bigger parts of the sig is that it will allow her to reverse healing after a SP2, which can be quite handy with the right timing for many nodes/abilities and gives you a reset when facing champs like sabretooth.

    I would rank 3 an unduped Spider-Gwen though, so if you like using her and would be considering taking her to that rank then I would opt for the 6* personally. She is worth the stones if you get them though, especially since she’ll be at a higher rank.
    I knew about that sp1 thing, but im not too good at it yet. It would be 200 vs 20(6*) and chances are sigs will go to Torch until i dupe Void. That said, i have like 40 r5s, and im trying to shift to 6*s, but her sig seemed really good. I would definitely r3 her.
    It is great, but still not essential. It’s good in the way that Gwen is a brilliant champ to have with or without it, I would certainly invest in that 6* you have. At the moment my 6* is at rank two and I’m using them both at the same time. I prioritise the 5* where I can just because she’s sig 200, but if she’s tied up in war I still carry on questing with the 6* and she does absolutely fine without it. Sometimes I even run both of them in the same quest haha, her level of usefulness is really quite impressive. One thing I will say though is I’m a big fan of the Gwenom rising synergy, which is easy to use because I like to bring venom or sometimes symbiote supreme for a lot of content; having that increased attack can be beneficial. That being said, this is also not essential and without it she’ll be able to have a 100% chance to evade unblockable specials at 3 charges rather than 6. And with her being awakened you still get a few benefits from the sig even if it’s not yet at full potential. You could always add more levels to that if you happen to pull her again. 100% worth the rank up in my opinion.
    Thanks for this, since im going for that featured im sure ill pull her again.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,478 ★★★★★
    Update, she isnt going up just yet. I think AA to r5 will be more beneficial at the moment. But she is next.
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