Vulture to Mephisto and Mephisto to Vulture
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Why does Aura of Incineration work against Vulture who is immune to Incineration? Please don’t copout with “Aura is a passive energy damage and not a debuff, so it will bypass any immunity.”
Please don’t set that precedent.
Please don’t set that precedent.
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Aura of incineration is not a debuff. Is like limbo but with burn damage
I already preemptively said it wasn’t a debuff in my original post..
Iceman is immune to incinerate. All incinerate that might appear sometimes in the future. This includes aura of incineration or incinerate debuffs.
Vulture is only immune to incinerate debuffs. He isn't immune to incinerate damage
Thats a confirmed bug
It's been "confirmed" for 6 months now
Unless Kabam is rewriting the English dictionary, incinerate means incinerate, thus burn damage whether debuff or not.
So it would seem, the only thing Vulture us not immune to is Kabams Improper usage of language in terms of description and the functionality of it's programming. The better explanation to this topic is simply to look no further than how Kabam defines sword to understand better...
sword
sôrd/Submit
noun
1. A sharp instrument used to cuase bleed. 2.A sharp instrument that doesn't cuase bleed but looks hella cool.
How would he interact with aura of incineration? Get no charges but be immune makes no sense. Get a charge makes no sense because he is taking damage over time.
End of discussion.
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Of course Kabam won’t respond to my posts because they let some fan provide some half-sassed response about the connotation of a word.
I’d like to hear the “official word” from Kabam’s Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
Funny. When he gets hit with an Incinerate, it says “Immune” on the screen. I guess “Immune” means “Absorb.” Oh no, there is another message that pops up saying “Absorb,” so “Immune” in this context must mean “Converting.”
I can poke holes in your remarks all day. What is the official word?
I find it funny that gamers argue on behalf of Kabam. Someone said he wasn’t Immune yet it says so on the screen when hit by Incineration. Debuff or damage, English is a pretty easy language to comprehend. I don’t care if it comes from a DEBUFF or a passive - the fact is that the damage is considered INCINERATION. - Which Vulture should Absorb and be Immune to as it says on the screen and in his abilities.
Either way, whether an answer comes from the dev or a fan, it will be a cop out so Mephisto can’t be stopped but with one champ.
I’m not arguing on behalf of Kabam. I’m arguing on the point of vulture’s abilities. I never mentioned Kabam. Yes captain Marvel takes energy damage, but not ALL energy damage. Coldsnap does energy damage but she doesn’t absorb that. It’s because there’s a specific way she does it, it isn’t from every source of it. If that’s still to hard to understand think of what Vulture’s abilities say, it doesn’t say immune it says “Incinerate feeds Vulture’s chitauri energy and gives him extra” or something like that. But it doesn’t say he’s immune. When he gets an incinerate it never says immune, it just goes away and his chirauri energy goes up. That’s because it’s on him, you can’t absorb an ability that’s on the other champion. Since the incinerate is on Mephisto, Vulture can’t absorb it. Also, I never said I agreed with the decision of that. I think he should just be immune, I’m not endorsing Kabam’s choices. Don’t twist my words. I’m simply telling it how it is
Vulture is not immune to the bonus energy damage that comes from heat charges.
Vulture is immune to the incinerate debuff that would come from his SP2 or SP3, since that is an actual debuff.
Basically, Vulture is only immune to DoT's, not direct damage.
That said, the aura being countered by only one champ, and his 10% regen currently working on modified health instead of base in AW... yeah, kabam knew what they were doing making him.
don't have vulture, so not actually taking sides in this argument. just wondering about this DOT vs Direct damage.
how do the descriptions compare to NC wording?
"NC cutlass has xx chance to strike a Deep Wound. dealing xxx Bleed damage instantly..."
Just wondering if Kabam was consistent in the concept. Vision immune to bleed, and ALSO to instant bleed...
maybe instantly means something different than direct damage?
edit: maybe it is unrelated. I do see what you say about vulture not being immune to incinerate, only to having incinerate buffs placed on him.
And the node has "enhanced incinerate". first time I've noticed. can someone confirm? is this it's first appearance?
NC deep wound ability requires a bit of mental gymnastics to get what they are saying, but it doesn't work the same way that the mastery WITH THE SAME NAME!!! Which can easily cause confusion.
The mastery requires a bleed debuff (DoT) to be applied in order for the extra damage (Direct Damage) to be taken.
NC's Deep Wound works off of critical hits (Direct Damage) in order for the extra damage (Direct Damage) to be taken.
That said, NC's Deep Wound is classified as bleed damage, so direct or not, champs that say they are bleed immune don't take the extra damage. Champs like AV/OML that can shrug off debuffs aren't actually immune, so they still take the damage.
Additionally, iirc, they specifically stated that NC's Deep Wounds did not stack with the mastery, so you can't double dip.
Act 5 chapter 3. Green Goblin also has that node
Bottom line, is if Vulture can convert incinerate debuffs, he should at least absorb (similar to CM) incinerate damage.
Red hulk isn't immune to poison too