Fuss over compensation and Complaints over Sq

BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,402 ★★★★★
edited March 2021 in General Discussion
Many people are complaining that some people are getting Extra URU ( I received normal) and they are having some of kind of heavy advantage.
I really don't get the point. I know it's Kabam's fault but not the players who received it. And if it was not them many of us would have easily wasted 1 feather or 2 cuz of buffed node or something like that.
I am not siding with anyone. I'm just saying that More for them does not mean less for me. Yah it sucks that Dev should have checked before releasing content. But there's no fault of those players. Atleast let them enjoy some of the things that Game offered them by mistake 😂😂😂😂😂(also none of my friends or ally mate got extra so chill).
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  • TesladonTesladon Member Posts: 351 ★★
    Same old same old.
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  • HoitadoHoitado Member Posts: 3,707 ★★★★★
    Kabam really needs to start figuring out how to stop having Event breaking bugs every update it’s getting too repetitive
  • Hera1d_of_Ga1actusHera1d_of_Ga1actus Member Posts: 2,439 ★★★★★
    SWORD78 said:

    Kabam really needs to start figuring out how to stop having Event breaking bugs every update it’s getting too repetitive

    but community outlash and speaking about stuff helps keep the game alive as they can accurately see how many are invested on the forums and to what extent
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  • TrashyPandaTrashyPanda Member Posts: 1,574 ★★★★★
    I view it as another time where I got the short end of the RNG roll.

    That said, of course people are annoyed. At Kabam, mostly. What did you want to accomplish with this thread? More disagree points?
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    SWORD78 said:

    Many people are complaining that some people are getting Extra URU ( I received normal) and they are having some of kind of heavy advantage.
    I really don't get the point. I know it's Kabam's fault but not the players who received it. And if it was not them many of us would have easily wasted 1 feather or 2 cuz of buffed node or something like that.
    I am not siding with anyone. I'm just saying that More for them does not mean less for me. Yah it sucks that Dev should have checked before releasing content. But there's no fault of those players. Atleast let them enjoy some of the things that Game offered them by mistake 😂😂😂😂😂(also none of my friends or ally mate got extra so chill).


    You say this because it probably doesn’t affect you

    And plus if they let them keep the rewards then why don’t they give people who exploited Mutant Treasure Island their rewards back.
    Actually it doesn't even affect you because them getting 26% more does not mean you get less. The overall effect of this glitch depends on the number of people that got the additional rewards which Kabam has to determine. If it is too much, they may try to resolve it, if it is deemed very small, they may very well ignore it.
  • Valentinos13Valentinos13 Member Posts: 400 ★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    SWORD78 said:

    Many people are complaining that some people are getting Extra URU ( I received normal) and they are having some of kind of heavy advantage.
    I really don't get the point. I know it's Kabam's fault but not the players who received it. And if it was not them many of us would have easily wasted 1 feather or 2 cuz of buffed node or something like that.
    I am not siding with anyone. I'm just saying that More for them does not mean less for me. Yah it sucks that Dev should have checked before releasing content. But there's no fault of those players. Atleast let them enjoy some of the things that Game offered them by mistake 😂😂😂😂😂(also none of my friends or ally mate got extra so chill).


    You say this because it probably doesn’t affect you

    And plus if they let them keep the rewards then why don’t they give people who exploited Mutant Treasure Island their rewards back.
    Actually it doesn't even affect you because them getting 26% more does not mean you get less. The overall effect of this glitch depends on the number of people that got the additional rewards which Kabam has to determine. If it is too much, they may try to resolve it, if it is deemed very small, they may very well ignore it.
    Even tho I don't agree with them picking what to resolve or not, I can understand

    What I don't understand and we both can agree on, is that complete silence from kabam up untill now is not right and shouldn't be happening
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★

    Pulyaman said:

    SWORD78 said:

    Many people are complaining that some people are getting Extra URU ( I received normal) and they are having some of kind of heavy advantage.
    I really don't get the point. I know it's Kabam's fault but not the players who received it. And if it was not them many of us would have easily wasted 1 feather or 2 cuz of buffed node or something like that.
    I am not siding with anyone. I'm just saying that More for them does not mean less for me. Yah it sucks that Dev should have checked before releasing content. But there's no fault of those players. Atleast let them enjoy some of the things that Game offered them by mistake 😂😂😂😂😂(also none of my friends or ally mate got extra so chill).


    You say this because it probably doesn’t affect you

    And plus if they let them keep the rewards then why don’t they give people who exploited Mutant Treasure Island their rewards back.
    Actually it doesn't even affect you because them getting 26% more does not mean you get less. The overall effect of this glitch depends on the number of people that got the additional rewards which Kabam has to determine. If it is too much, they may try to resolve it, if it is deemed very small, they may very well ignore it.
    Even tho I don't agree with them picking what to resolve or not, I can understand

    What I don't understand and we both can agree on, is that complete silence from kabam up untill now is not right and shouldn't be happening
    I feel that there is nothing they can say that will satisfy everyone or anyone. Only thing that they can say to satisfy everyone is that they will give everyone more feathers for them to get the same amount or limit the entries. Anything less than that will only cause more outrage. Hopefully, they are discussing a solution that can make everyone happy.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,366 ★★★★★

    Do we really need a new thread on this?

    Yes because there is no announcement from Kabam what will happen to those players who took advantage of this bug.

    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit
    It's not a bug. The players that got extra had issues with the SQ.
  • HoitadoHoitado Member Posts: 3,707 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    Pulyaman said:

    SWORD78 said:

    Many people are complaining that some people are getting Extra URU ( I received normal) and they are having some of kind of heavy advantage.
    I really don't get the point. I know it's Kabam's fault but not the players who received it. And if it was not them many of us would have easily wasted 1 feather or 2 cuz of buffed node or something like that.
    I am not siding with anyone. I'm just saying that More for them does not mean less for me. Yah it sucks that Dev should have checked before releasing content. But there's no fault of those players. Atleast let them enjoy some of the things that Game offered them by mistake 😂😂😂😂😂(also none of my friends or ally mate got extra so chill).


    You say this because it probably doesn’t affect you

    And plus if they let them keep the rewards then why don’t they give people who exploited Mutant Treasure Island their rewards back.
    Actually it doesn't even affect you because them getting 26% more does not mean you get less. The overall effect of this glitch depends on the number of people that got the additional rewards which Kabam has to determine. If it is too much, they may try to resolve it, if it is deemed very small, they may very well ignore it.

    Alliance wise it does affect many people More Powerful Defenders and others because they now have more powerful defenders and attackers thus be raking the balance of the game
  • EdwxnEdwxn Member Posts: 215 ★★
    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    Great example. Admirable.
  • Valentinos13Valentinos13 Member Posts: 400 ★★★

    Do we really need a new thread on this?

    Yes because there is no announcement from Kabam what will happen to those players who took advantage of this bug.

    @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit
    It's not a bug. The players that got extra had issues with the SQ.
    I think only those that had the wrong tiers show up and used the feather got the extra Uru and feather, I myself only had the wrong tiers show up but didn't use the feather and I didn't got extra
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    That doesn't even make sense. Gender inequality is a deliberate thing that is happening. It is not done by glitch or a error. Also, more money for women does mean less money for the men in the same office because money is a finite resource. For someone to earn more, someone has to earn less.

    In this case, everyone was supposed to get 14%(7 runs if you are UC and above). Some people got more URU and so they got more than 7 runs. Does that mean you get less than 7 runs? Of course not. Two situations don's compare at all.
  • HoitadoHoitado Member Posts: 3,707 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    Pulyaman said:

    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    That doesn't even make sense. Gender inequality is a deliberate thing that is happening. It is not done by glitch or a error. Also, more money for women does mean less money for the men in the same office because money is a finite resource. For someone to earn more, someone has to earn less.

    In this case, everyone was supposed to get 14%(7 runs if you are UC and above). Some people got more URU and so they got more than 7 runs. Does that mean you get less than 7 runs? Of course not. Two situations don's compare at all.
    You missed the point

    So if two people ran a boss rush
    And the rewards promised were a 5* Nexus and half of a t5b. And one person ran it and got those rewards but the other ran it and got a 6* Nexus and a Fully Formed t5b. You would say that that is fair and thus okay?

    They did the same work but the rewards difference is huge.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    SWORD78 said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    That doesn't even make sense. Gender inequality is a deliberate thing that is happening. It is not done by glitch or a error. Also, more money for women does mean less money for the men in the same office because money is a finite resource. For someone to earn more, someone has to earn less.

    In this case, everyone was supposed to get 14%(7 runs if you are UC and above). Some people got more URU and so they got more than 7 runs. Does that mean you get less than 7 runs? Of course not. Two situations don's compare at all.
    You missed the point

    So if two people ran a boss rush
    And the rewards promised were a 5* Nexus and half of a t5b. And one person ran it and got those rewards but the other ran it and got a 6* Nexus and a Fully Formed t5b. You would say that that is fair and thus okay?

    They did the same work but the rewards difference is huge.
    But that was not the OP's point. He was comparing a resource in game with gender inequality which does not compare at all.
    I could come up with hypothetical situations too. If the 5 star nexus had 5 star Doom, and 6 star nexus had to be chosen from OG IM, OG CA and SIM, who would you say got the better deal? So, its not black and white always. We had a side quest reward structure that gave some people multiple 6 stars and some people only 3 stars. Was that fair?
    There were only people who benefitted and no one was affected due to the glitch. That was OP's point.
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  • KerneasKerneas Member Posts: 3,844 ★★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    That doesn't even make sense. Gender inequality is a deliberate thing that is happening. It is not done by glitch or a error. Also, more money for women does mean less money for the men in the same office because money is a finite resource. For someone to earn more, someone has to earn less.

    In this case, everyone was supposed to get 14%(7 runs if you are UC and above). Some people got more URU and so they got more than 7 runs. Does that mean you get less than 7 runs? Of course not. Two situations don's compare at all.
    You are partially right. It depends on pov, yes. More and less are values relative to something.

    However, that doesn't remove the issue. T5b is a limited resource and when some players are getting more than others CAN (that's important, others are literally unable to), it is wrong because it creates inequity of opportunities. And that wouldn't be so extraordinary if this game wasn't so strict about offering the important things to everyone. There is a big rng aspect in the game already, which can bless one sink another. This only widens the gap between players.

    I am fully aware that this isn't much of an argument and I apologise for lack of logic here.

  • EdwxnEdwxn Member Posts: 215 ★★
    Kerneas said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    That doesn't even make sense. Gender inequality is a deliberate thing that is happening. It is not done by glitch or a error. Also, more money for women does mean less money for the men in the same office because money is a finite resource. For someone to earn more, someone has to earn less.

    In this case, everyone was supposed to get 14%(7 runs if you are UC and above). Some people got more URU and so they got more than 7 runs. Does that mean you get less than 7 runs? Of course not. Two situations don's compare at all.
    You are partially right. It depends on pov, yes. More and less are values relative to something.

    However, that doesn't remove the issue. T5b is a limited resource and when some players are getting more than others CAN (that's important, others are literally unable to), it is wrong because it creates inequity of opportunities. And that wouldn't be so extraordinary if this game wasn't so strict about offering the important things to everyone. There is a big rng aspect in the game already, which can bless one sink another. This only widens the gap between players.

    I am fully aware that this isn't much of an argument and I apologise for lack of logic here.

    You dropped this my g 👑
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Kerneas said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    That doesn't even make sense. Gender inequality is a deliberate thing that is happening. It is not done by glitch or a error. Also, more money for women does mean less money for the men in the same office because money is a finite resource. For someone to earn more, someone has to earn less.

    In this case, everyone was supposed to get 14%(7 runs if you are UC and above). Some people got more URU and so they got more than 7 runs. Does that mean you get less than 7 runs? Of course not. Two situations don's compare at all.
    You are partially right. It depends on pov, yes. More and less are values relative to something.

    However, that doesn't remove the issue. T5b is a limited resource and when some players are getting more than others CAN (that's important, others are literally unable to), it is wrong because it creates inequity of opportunities. And that wouldn't be so extraordinary if this game wasn't so strict about offering the important things to everyone. There is a big rng aspect in the game already, which can bless one sink another. This only widens the gap between players.

    I am fully aware that this isn't much of an argument and I apologise for lack of logic here.

    But the gap is something you cannot see at all. That is what I am saying. Even if rng is on the player side and he pulls all 13 t5cc of the same class and forms a T5c from frags, it won't affect you in any way that you will know. I am not against players wanting fairness, but I am not sure they will give everyone 26% T5cc away, so all we are doing now is preventing the people who could get the extra shards from getting them.
  • HoitadoHoitado Member Posts: 3,707 ★★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    Kerneas said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Kerneas said:

    This is probably reeeeealy exaggerated but I see it just like the wage equality. When men earn more money for the same job than women, does it mean that women earn less? Ofc it does. And that's why people try to make these equal. You can't just say "the fact that men earn more doesn't mean that women earn less".(which is using op's exact words in a parallel made by me just ftr, people are weird these days)

    And imo it is same here: one group recieves more than other for same effort. Not fair.

    BUT it's not the players' fault and I have to agree with op here, please don't shame them. It's not their fault. They work with what's been given to them.

    That doesn't even make sense. Gender inequality is a deliberate thing that is happening. It is not done by glitch or a error. Also, more money for women does mean less money for the men in the same office because money is a finite resource. For someone to earn more, someone has to earn less.

    In this case, everyone was supposed to get 14%(7 runs if you are UC and above). Some people got more URU and so they got more than 7 runs. Does that mean you get less than 7 runs? Of course not. Two situations don's compare at all.
    You are partially right. It depends on pov, yes. More and less are values relative to something.

    However, that doesn't remove the issue. T5b is a limited resource and when some players are getting more than others CAN (that's important, others are literally unable to), it is wrong because it creates inequity of opportunities. And that wouldn't be so extraordinary if this game wasn't so strict about offering the important things to everyone. There is a big rng aspect in the game already, which can bless one sink another. This only widens the gap between players.

    I am fully aware that this isn't much of an argument and I apologise for lack of logic here.

    But the gap is something you cannot see at all. That is what I am saying. Even if rng is on the player side and he pulls all 13 t5cc of the same class and forms a T5c from frags, it won't affect you in any way that you will know. I am not against players wanting fairness, but I am not sure they will give everyone 26% T5cc away, so all we are doing now is preventing the people who could get the extra shards from getting them.


    Actually alliance wise this is affecting because now they get stronger defenders and attackers which makes it easier to win which leads to even bigger rewards and they get this for doing nothing more
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