Who should I r5?

LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
edited May 2021 in Strategy and Tips
I am currently at act 5.2. I didn't try 5.3 due to lack of time. But in near future, I would go for Cavalier. Who should I r5 considering the r5 champ would help me for Cavalier?
P.S. Only Darkhawk is Awakened.

Who should I r5? 28 votes

Darkhawk (sig 45)
0%
Sorcerer Supreme
46%
ThunderGodMalreck04Kill_GreyKillswitch01IronGladiator22MaxLeeR1s02AGYAATYodabolt21BuggyDClownReal_Madrid_76_2tofuシDEADSHOT84891 13 votes
Venom
53%
MagrailothosYoMovesIron_Patriot_is_litProximaMidnight_8Sarvanga1_Ewell65SSS69AngelMG7DawsManAJAX1814Negative_100jscott96avenge_123SUPREME77Nalak8AndyBeardo 15 votes
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  • YoMovesYoMoves Member Posts: 1,285 ★★★★
    Venom
    Of these three, Venom has the most direct utility and helps clear a lot of content. Sorceror's good but surprisingly lacks in a lot of utility outside of some basic regeneration and self-generating power. Darkhawk is MY favorite of the three, but I wouldn't rank him unless you have a Night Thrasher/Nova for synergies or need some immunities in your life.
  • LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
    I have Nova but he is unduped. I use Darkhawk solo. Infact Why these 3 are in polls because I use all these 3 together whether its AW attack or in EQ or even in Incursions. (Though I admit I played incursions twice).
    I am comfortable with all 3 and so, these are my personal preference.
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
    Sorcerer Supreme
    I have both at r5 and was in same situation in act5. I did Sorcerer that time and I don't regret. Venom have good damage and utilities. But Sorcerer shines better in utility department and makes better sustainable champ. Tho venom shines in more contents like variants,Aw . At this time you should give priority to sorcerer.
  • LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
    Man.. Now I am super confused! 😅😅
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    edited May 2021
    Sorcerer Supreme
    YoMoves said:

    Of these three, Venom has the most direct utility and helps clear a lot of content. Sorceror's good but surprisingly lacks in a lot of utility outside of some basic regeneration and self-generating power. Darkhawk is MY favorite of the three, but I wouldn't rank him unless you have a Night Thrasher/Nova for synergies or need some immunities in your life.

    Lol, what? You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
    Sorcerer Supreme
    LordPSN said:

    Man.. Now I am super confused! 😅😅

    Venom:-
    Immunity:- none in terms of DOT(damage over time like bleed poison) But tech champs can't power drain him no matter what. So there's a lane in 5.3 where he is best

    Damage:- Takes little of ramp up but his damage is very solid

    Utility:- Gains ton of buffs. Good for buffed up node but bad for masochism and buffet node. No Spidey can evade him no matter what if your kylantar buff is active ( that black one with timer). On his Sp1 he nullifues opponent buff per hit and regen a bit( but it's not guaranteed. I forgot what are exactly the numbers but still it's nice). His armor buff can counter Havok. If opponent is less than 18% hp than he gains true strike ignoring evade effects and auto blocks while his specials become unblockable. He can apply armor breaks on his heavy while changing his last buff to something to new ( can be changed back to old one too cuz of RNG).

    Sig ability:- His ramp up is short and starts with extra buff ( I have forget one other detail but that's not too much)





    Sorcerer:
    Immunity:-No immunity

    Damage:- She have very good damage but if fight gets longer more deadlier she will become.
    As her damage is based upon on her current stored runes.just manage them.


    Utility:- Passive power gain like Dr strange and SS. Tho she can get through hit or being hit but it's low than normal ones. She can put slow stopping enemy's evade except science class.
    She can out armor break. She can regenerate and in longer fights her regen can become very potent and reliable. Also on her sp1 she can nullify 1 buff of enemy and activated a aura for a time which can nullify opponents buffs one by one in 0.8 seconds ( idk exact time) by being near to them. Also her sp2 pauses debuffs on enemy and buff in herself which add really solid impact on her utility and damage. Most important her runes and regen, power gain and fury are passive so no need to worry for nullify.

    Sig ability:- Gives her more Ability accuracy which make her direct counter to domino also to some other champs who do AA reduction. And her rune effects becomes more potent adding good points in her abilities.


    It's your decision after all. I may have forgotten many things but these are the basics. In my opinion Sorcerer have better utility. But venom is solid champ and eventually you will max him too as he's better than sorcerer in Variants.
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
    Sorcerer Supreme

    LordPSN said:

    Man.. Now I am super confused! 😅😅

    Venom:-
    Immunity:- none in terms of DOT(damage over time like bleed poison) But tech champs can't power drain him no matter what. So there's a lane in 5.3 where he is best

    Damage:- Takes little of ramp up but his damage is very solid

    Utility:- Gains ton of buffs. Good for buffed up node but bad for masochism and buffet node. No Spidey can evade him no matter what if your kylantar buff is active ( that black one with timer). On his Sp1 he nullifues opponent buff per hit and regen a bit( but it's not guaranteed. I forgot what are exactly the numbers but still it's nice). His armor buff can counter Havok. If opponent is less than 18% hp than he gains true strike ignoring evade effects and auto blocks while his specials become unblockable. He can apply armor breaks on his heavy while changing his last buff to something to new ( can be changed back to old one too cuz of RNG).

    Sig ability:- His ramp up is short and starts with extra buff ( I have forget one other detail but that's not too much)





    Sorcerer:
    Immunity:-No immunity

    Damage:- She have very good damage but if fight gets longer more deadlier she will become.
    As her damage is based upon on her current stored runes.just manage them.


    Utility:- Passive power gain like Dr strange and SS. Tho she can get through hit or being hit but it's low than normal ones. She can put slow stopping enemy's evade except science class.
    She can out armor break. She can regenerate and in longer fights her regen can become very potent and reliable. Also on her sp1 she can nullify 1 buff of enemy and activated a aura for a time which can nullify opponents buffs one by one in 0.8 seconds ( idk exact time) by being near to them. Also her sp2 pauses debuffs on enemy and buff in herself which add really solid impact on her utility and damage. Most important her runes and regen, power gain and fury are passive so no need to worry for nullify.

    Sig ability:- Gives her more Ability accuracy which make her direct counter to domino also to some other champs who do AA reduction. And her rune effects becomes more potent adding good points in her abilities.


    It's your decision after all. I may have forgotten many things but these are the basics. In my opinion Sorcerer have better utility. But venom is solid champ and eventually you will max him too as he's better than sorcerer in Variants.
    Sorry for some typos
  • LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
    @BuggyDClown thanks man for that clear explanation. Let me just put one thing out. I have 6 star Longshot too. And r3 Venom the duck. Both unduped.
    As said in description, I play with all 3 mentioned in the poll everywhere. I know how to play with them. So in your opinion, both Sorcerer Supreme and Venom should be r5. Correct?
  • AndyBeardoAndyBeardo Member Posts: 180
    edited May 2021
    Venom
    I just love Venom, have him at 5/65. My sorc supreme is duped + medium sig but still only 5/45 and I somehow hesitate to rank her up. Both are considered as great champs in their respective classes no matter who you ask so you probably can't go wrong. Maybe your masteries can help with the decision. Mystic dispersion vs. Deep Wounds.
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    Venom
    Venom is so good for variants, countering spidey evades (which you'll encounter a lot of in act 5) and overall just a beast. Sorcerer supreme has her place, but other champions are better. Venom is an amazing all rounder for an act 5 account.
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
    Sorcerer Supreme
    LordPSN said:

    @BuggyDClown thanks man for that clear explanation. Let me just put one thing out. I have 6 star Longshot too. And r3 Venom the duck. Both unduped.
    As said in description, I play with all 3 mentioned in the poll everywhere. I know how to play with them. So in your opinion, both Sorcerer Supreme and Venom should be r5. Correct?

    Yes both should be r5.Do ss first then Venom

    Long shot shines in heavy buff opponent matchups meanwhile VTD relies on Rng for ramp up. He's good for act 5 but with him fight can be stressful without correct buffs ti bank
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
    Sorcerer Supreme
    DawsMan said:

    Venom is so good for variants, countering spidey evades (which you'll encounter a lot of in act 5) and overall just a beast. Sorcerer supreme has her place, but other champions are better. Venom is an amazing all rounder for an act 5 account.

    Respectfully how other champs are better than her. Sorcerer is easily in top 5 mystic. In act 5 r4 venom can be used for spiders but Sorcerer is more versatile. Her regen is very potent and can save ton of pots and revives. Also except science Spidey and Gwen spider she also can shut down other spiders while maintainingher hp pool.
    I have used sorcerer in act 6 n more then venom. In act 5 Sorcerer helped me more than Venom in terms of item save
  • LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
    Man. That's why I asked in the forums here because I too was confused. But poor Darkhawk.. I love him... And no one voted for him.... Guess its between Venom and Sorcer supreme... 😅
    The thing is I play with both of them. I know both shines respectfully in their class. But I got confused who to r5...
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