New AW model is highly detrimental to 2 BG AW alliances

Haji_Saab

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

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ItsDamien

Haji_Saab said:

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

The fact that 2 BGs were placing in the same brackets as 3BG alliances shows that the whole system is fundamentally broken.

There should be a higher reward for higher risk with 3 BGs than for 2.

SpideyFunko

while I agree, I think 3 battle groups is higher risk than 2, and therefore should get higher reward

Treinin

Feel free to run a 3rd BG if you aren't getting enough points.

Jaded

This sounds like a solution to a problem people didn’t know existed. 2bg war alliances shouldn’t be in p2. That’s absurd.

Geralt_123

Haji_Saab said:

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

We are in Gold 3 and will push for Gold 2 next season and it is a massive hit for us as with the overwhelming rewards in lower tiers everybody don't want to participate in every wars neither we can force them to do so as we can't loose our friends due to these already biased war system.

Jaded

Geralt_123 said:

Haji_Saab said:

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

We are in Gold 3 and will push for Gold 2 next season and it is a massive hit for us as with the overwhelming rewards in lower tiers everybody don't want to participate in every wars neither we can force them to do so as we can't loose our friends due to these already biased war system.

You can force them, it’s a game. If they don’t want to play the game they don’t have to be in an alliance that does wars. This all sounds childish, how do you think parents get children to do school work? It’s not rocket science. Stop making excuses for your shortcomings.

Geralt_123

Jaded said:

Geralt_123 said:

Haji_Saab said:

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

We are in Gold 3 and will push for Gold 2 next season and it is a massive hit for us as with the overwhelming rewards in lower tiers everybody don't want to participate in every wars neither we can force them to do so as we can't loose our friends due to these already biased war system.

You can force them, it’s a game. If they don’t want to play the game they don’t have to be in an alliance that does wars. This all sounds childish, how do you think parents get children to do school work? It’s not rocket science. Stop making excuses for your shortcomings.

What if myself as a Leader don't want to do this and why would I do when I know that these Gold tiers rewards are not worth of giving our hundred percent in all bg for 1 month.
And yeah still we can maintain Gold 2 next season as we have solid skillful guys and I am addressing how it will affect us not giving excuses and the alliance who run two bg can understand it easily.
If you think that you make people work by forcing them to do wars for 1 month in the lower tier bracket when you have option to rotate everybody by giving them minimum stress then you are taking this game more seriously where you do care more about this game war system (where even high tier skilled players get bored and burnt and they join lower tier alliance to relax) than your supportive alliance mates.
I am not that type of guy!

Jaded

Geralt_123 said:

Jaded said:

Geralt_123 said:

Haji_Saab said:

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

We are in Gold 3 and will push for Gold 2 next season and it is a massive hit for us as with the overwhelming rewards in lower tiers everybody don't want to participate in every wars neither we can force them to do so as we can't loose our friends due to these already biased war system.

You can force them, it’s a game. If they don’t want to play the game they don’t have to be in an alliance that does wars. This all sounds childish, how do you think parents get children to do school work? It’s not rocket science. Stop making excuses for your shortcomings.

What if myself as a Leader don't want to do this and why would I do when I know that these Gold tiers rewards are not worth of giving our hundred percent in all bg for 1 month.
And yeah still we can maintain Gold 2 next season as we have solid skillful guys and I am addressing how it will affect us not giving excuses and the alliance who run two bg can understand it easily.
If you think that you make people work by forcing them to do wars for 1 month in the lower tier bracket when you have option to rotate everybody by giving them minimum stress then you are taking this game more seriously where you do care more about this game war system (where even high tier skilled players get bored and burnt and they join lower tier alliance to relax) than your supportive alliance mates.
I am not that type of guy!

Uhhh yeah the problem is completely and only you. I play with like minded individuals that want to do war. There is no Twisting of arms. We go 6-6 in war season for p3/4 rewards, we don’t stress deaths unless we have lost 3 in a row. This past season we won the first 4, lost the next 5 and won our final 3. Easy platinum 4 rewards.

You’re stressing over gold bracket rewards? How do you think people get higher bracket rewards? By winning wars and moving up. If you want to complain about effort vs reward then put more effort in for more rewards. P3/4 is definitely easier to snag now a days with an organized alliance putting in 100% effort.

Again, as I stated at the beginning the only problem is you.

Kill_Grey

Jaded said:

Geralt_123 said:

Jaded said:

Geralt_123 said:

Haji_Saab said:

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

We are in Gold 3 and will push for Gold 2 next season and it is a massive hit for us as with the overwhelming rewards in lower tiers everybody don't want to participate in every wars neither we can force them to do so as we can't loose our friends due to these already biased war system.

You can force them, it’s a game. If they don’t want to play the game they don’t have to be in an alliance that does wars. This all sounds childish, how do you think parents get children to do school work? It’s not rocket science. Stop making excuses for your shortcomings.

What if myself as a Leader don't want to do this and why would I do when I know that these Gold tiers rewards are not worth of giving our hundred percent in all bg for 1 month.
And yeah still we can maintain Gold 2 next season as we have solid skillful guys and I am addressing how it will affect us not giving excuses and the alliance who run two bg can understand it easily.
If you think that you make people work by forcing them to do wars for 1 month in the lower tier bracket when you have option to rotate everybody by giving them minimum stress then you are taking this game more seriously where you do care more about this game war system (where even high tier skilled players get bored and burnt and they join lower tier alliance to relax) than your supportive alliance mates.
I am not that type of guy!

Uhhh yeah the problem is completely and only you. I play with like minded individuals that want to do war. There is no Twisting of arms. We go 6-6 in war season for p3/4 rewards, we don’t stress deaths unless we have lost 3 in a row. This past season we won the first 4, lost the next 5 and won our final 3. Easy platinum 4 rewards.

You’re stressing over gold bracket rewards? How do you think people get higher bracket rewards? By winning wars and moving up. If you want to complain about effort vs reward then put more effort in for more rewards. P3/4 is definitely easier to snag now a days with an organized alliance putting in 100% effort.

Again, as I stated at the beginning the only problem is you.

Lol, we probably faced you guys unknowingly last season.

Kill_Grey

We probably faced your ally unknowingly last season @Jaded

Geralt_123

Jaded said:

Geralt_123 said:

Jaded said:

Geralt_123 said:

Haji_Saab said:

Current AW win = 50,000 points (this is same for both 2 BG and 3 BG alliances)
New AW win = 30,000 points
And more points for exploration. Now, the thing is that there is more to explore in 3 BG as compared to 2 BG.

Currently, for a 2BG alliance, if you win everything (as we do ) you can place in platinum 2. With the new scoring system, we will be lucky to place in platinum 3 and most likely will fall to platinum 4. For other 2 BG alliances, who win 50% of their matches, they are looking at Gold 1, plat 4 now even if they are in playing tier 1, 2 wars.

Just something to consider for 2 BG alliances.

We are in Gold 3 and will push for Gold 2 next season and it is a massive hit for us as with the overwhelming rewards in lower tiers everybody don't want to participate in every wars neither we can force them to do so as we can't loose our friends due to these already biased war system.

You can force them, it’s a game. If they don’t want to play the game they don’t have to be in an alliance that does wars. This all sounds childish, how do you think parents get children to do school work? It’s not rocket science. Stop making excuses for your shortcomings.

What if myself as a Leader don't want to do this and why would I do when I know that these Gold tiers rewards are not worth of giving our hundred percent in all bg for 1 month.
And yeah still we can maintain Gold 2 next season as we have solid skillful guys and I am addressing how it will affect us not giving excuses and the alliance who run two bg can understand it easily.
If you think that you make people work by forcing them to do wars for 1 month in the lower tier bracket when you have option to rotate everybody by giving them minimum stress then you are taking this game more seriously where you do care more about this game war system (where even high tier skilled players get bored and burnt and they join lower tier alliance to relax) than your supportive alliance mates.
I am not that type of guy!

Uhhh yeah the problem is completely and only you. I play with like minded individuals that want to do war. There is no Twisting of arms. We go 6-6 in war season for p3/4 rewards, we don’t stress deaths unless we have lost 3 in a row. This past season we won the first 4, lost the next 5 and won our final 3. Easy platinum 4 rewards.

You’re stressing over gold bracket rewards? How do you think people get higher bracket rewards? By winning wars and moving up. If you want to complain about effort vs reward then put more effort in for more rewards. P3/4 is definitely easier to snag now a days with an organized alliance putting in 100% effort.

Again, as I stated at the beginning the only problem is you.

Nice to hear!
Seems like you are from another planet who don't know about alliance which plays with 2 bg only.Many of them in Gold 1 too.
You saw another example where platinum 2 with 2 bg war as with current system it is all about points and ratings.I can't say how is it fair for 2 bg alliance to stay in Plat 2 in comparison to 3 bg as we don't have any actual data about the no. of these alliances.
And people who are feeling it unfair were the same who whine that match is fair if you have similar war rating.And if you moved up by defeating the tougher opponents then why it should be a problem.
I know with 3 bg it is easier to maintain ranks and there was already a benefit with playing 3 bg war and I am not taking it like arena changes.I will wait and see how it will affect us and every alliance have different perspective about how they want to play wars and definitely we are not changing to the three bg as I know the stress of war either you claim it is not stressful or it is doesn't change it's fact.

Jaded

Kill_Grey said:

We probably faced your ally unknowingly last season @Jaded

Maybe, I check every ally for names that I may recognize. I’m always jadedfusion in game.

Kill_Grey

Jaded said:

Kill_Grey said:

We probably faced your ally unknowingly last season @Jaded

Maybe, I check every ally for names that I may recognize. I’m always jadedfusion in game.

Well, if you remember facing any Indian ally last season, then that was probably my ally lol

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-sixate-

If 2bg alliances are getting P2 then this is a change that should have happened a while ago. And I'm in an alliance that doesn't run 3bg wars.

We run 1bg wars and finish G2. I'm sure if we ran 2bg wars we would easily hit Platinum. We stay in tier 3-4 so our mltiplier if pretty high.

AouxWoux

You always have the option to do 3 BG's, join a new alliance, or create one yourself. Dont see any problem here.