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Rank 4 Juggernaut Support Group
bentoddfred
Posts: 50 ★
How many of y'all out there spent 4 of the rarest items in the game on this dude and now he literally does nothing but ride the bench day in and day out? It's to the point where I hate even viewing my in-game profile or opening my champ roster because the pain of seeing him sitting there doing nothing and hogging 4 of the 12-14 possible T2A in the game for those of us who haven't 100% LoL yet.
Kabam - we understand what you're saying about how defensive champs like Juggernaut, Nightcrawler, Mordo etc have not had their abilities altered in anyway. That's perfectly clear and I understand how that argument makes sense from your perspective.
But can you please take a moment and look at it from our point of view? If we are in an alliance with more than 3 R4 Juggernaut (one per battlegroup), then any extraneous Juggernauts are effectively worthless. Actually, they are less than worthless as they can actively LOSE a war for you due to diversity. We worked hard for these T2A and we work hard for the superior 5-star champions that we are dying to use them on instead of a champion that has no purpose anymore.
Please at least acknowledge that this is a real problem... if you don't want to issue even 1 5-star rank down, then please acknowledge that something else needs to be done to make these investments worthwhile again.
Kabam - we understand what you're saying about how defensive champs like Juggernaut, Nightcrawler, Mordo etc have not had their abilities altered in anyway. That's perfectly clear and I understand how that argument makes sense from your perspective.
But can you please take a moment and look at it from our point of view? If we are in an alliance with more than 3 R4 Juggernaut (one per battlegroup), then any extraneous Juggernauts are effectively worthless. Actually, they are less than worthless as they can actively LOSE a war for you due to diversity. We worked hard for these T2A and we work hard for the superior 5-star champions that we are dying to use them on instead of a champion that has no purpose anymore.
Please at least acknowledge that this is a real problem... if you don't want to issue even 1 5-star rank down, then please acknowledge that something else needs to be done to make these investments worthwhile again.
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I can then bring Juggs on.
You nailed it though.. not only is it a bad idea to use your champ it can be a penalty..smdh. I know people are against rtds and I understand why. What slays me is the disregard kabam and fellow players show in this situation. Literally you can't use champs for the reason you ranked them up for. Not that the content makes them bad really. Juggernaut will always be a good defender. You just lose points.
People will argue that content changes and we need to adapt. Usually when content changes you can still use your champs but they might not be as effective. Juggernaut will still be effective but you'll probably lose because of having multiple ones. This really does rob you of resources.
I'm not advocating for rtds but war needs to be fixed. It sounds like kabam realizes they've made a mistake, let's hope they don't make more fixing this one.
It’s Rank down Tickets (rdt) not Ready to Drink (rtd) btw.
Fixed that for you, high tier AW is decided by diversity and defender rating so placing a duplicate champ is pretty much a guaranteed loss.
It's not a choice it's a requirement to win
What tier are you in?
I’ve explored LoL and have 5 5* r4s at 6k prestige. Half a t2a away from my 6th one.
I don't see how ranking a champ that could possibly help you win 700 5* shards 3 times a week is a bad decision - quite the opposite really. It's not our fault Kabam changed the rules of the game on us.
Gotcha, well I'm surprised you haven't come to the same conclusion in war that max diversity is the only real way to win. It's unfortunate and it is technically the players' decision, but it's a decision that has been brought on by a huge change to the meta of the game mode by Kabam.
I checked out your profile (impressive work, my friend) and I can see that you have nothing to regret in your R4 choices. I'm jealous as hell haha. But just take a second to put yourself in the shoes of someone who ranked up a Juggernaut or Spidey to help their alliance secure a few more war wins. That's not a decision anyone would make in the new era of AW.
I understand your viewpoint, but if you empathize a little, I think you'll agree that this is a problem.
It’s not that I’ve not come to the same conclusion. My alliance runs 150 unique defenders as well, and I have explained my stand to my members. Whatever was ranked prior to the change, have served the alliance well in getting the alliance to the current point and was the correct choice at that juncture of time
This is similar to how someone probably got a 4* duped iron man 1-2 weeks into the game and eventually 4/40ing him to use him as a path clearer for AQ and AW because he was the only choice. Fast forward 6 months, his roster developed and he doesn’t use his iron man again. Does it warrant a rank down ticket?
How I view it is that, whichever jug was r4ed prior to the change, has served his purpose for helping the alliance progress in terms of securing AW wins and shards. This is similar to all the Hyperions Mordos NCs that each alliance have. Do they all warrant rank down tickets?
There's a huge difference between your example and an R4 Juggernaut, though. More T4B can be earned with relative ease, whereas T2A won't be readily available to earn on a regular basis for a long time. It's a finite (and expensive) resource at this juncture.
And yes, the Mordos and Nightcrawlers are the same problem, in my opinion. I only use Juggernaut as an example because that's who I have.
Finally, I'm not saying that it HAS to be rank down tickets to solve this problem. I'm only saying that it's a problem that needs to be solved. Simply adding defender kills back into the AW scoring would be sufficient, in my opinion
I’m over 500k PI and I don’t even have one.
I fully understand where you're coming from. T4Bs were initially a scarce resource as well until the general population progressed past it. It'll be the same for T2A in time to come.
That being said, I support your idea in having defender kills count towards the total score, probably about 20 points per kill? That forces alliances to make a choice of "will this defender get more than 2 kills to compensate for my sacrifice of diversity?" IMO, making choices makes a game more meaningful and fun to play, which is why Rank Down Tickets was, and will be, a bad idea.
They simply invalidate choices players have made.
I'm really disappointed and i hope that it will be fixed.
I worked hard for my R4s (100% Act 4 over a year ago, LoL easy path with 4-Star Star-Lord).
Just because you've prioritized your progression differently, doesn't minimize our concerns about wasted resources.
You're absolutely right that T2A will be more plentiful someday. I can't wait for that day to come. It's just hard to look that far ahead right now when hard-earned resources are riding the bench. My point is that I think that it's not too much to ask of Kabam to improve our enjoyment of the game a bit by making these resources useful again, either by RDTs or by adjusting war scoring. Someday an R4 Jugg won't sting so much. But it's awful right now and it feels like Kabam just doesn't care.
Totally agree on that scoring proposal of 20 points per defender kill, btw. I love the strategy that would introduce.
Honestly, he’s really not as bad as everyone seems to think he is.
Yeah. If there’s a serious conversation of legitimate concern, definitely will keep it constructive. But a crybaby post, on the other hand....
So.... over 500k PI and you haven't explored Act 4 yet? Did you just buy an obscene amount of PI rating and only do AQ/AW?
With that roster, how would you be “paying” to be in tier 1? I have fought one tier 1 war and used one revive/2 (expiring) healths to clear path 1 (and only bc I missed a dang l2 strange evade with my magik the first time I went in and with my aa—I had lost voodoo to a dormamu on special lock one was just a bad luck fight earlier).
Regardless, I could have easily gone through that war without spending any items. I have only spent items in 2 wars since “diversity” was introduced (and the first time was two expiring alliance health potions also)