Tier 3 Catalyst inventory limit

FluffyPigMonster

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

Pulyaman

FluffyPigMonster said:

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

The devs will know what amount they are releasing into the game. When the time comes, they will either increase the limit based on another progression title, or decrease the amount to rank up the champ so that you can claim the stash after ranking up a champ. The alternate is that you can buy the sigil and I think it will increase the limit.

FluffyPigMonster

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

The devs will know what amount they are releasing into the game. When the time comes, they will either increase the limit based on another progression title, or decrease the amount to rank up the champ so that you can claim the stash after ranking up a champ. The alternate is that you can buy the sigil and I think it will increase the limit.

The limit of 2 is with the sigil.

You speaketh as if you are privy to their plans!

Point is - some of us may have to wait more than 30 days to R4 someone. I don’t believe everyone will magically arrive at 3 Tier alpha 3 catalysts and have all their materials ready for the champ they want.

Bendy

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

The devs will know what amount they are releasing into the game. When the time comes, they will either increase the limit based on another progression title, or decrease the amount to rank up the champ so that you can claim the stash after ranking up a champ. The alternate is that you can buy the sigil and I think it will increase the limit.

They will increase limit whenever they need to as the capacity has never been tied to progression but with levels but since they stopped levels they upped it at times when needed or remove 1 required of the catalyst so be 2 t3a and 3 t6b

FluffyPigMonster

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

Bendy

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

ItsDamien

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

Well, Kabam knows exactly how much of the catalysts they've allowed into the game so far. They'll also increase the limit when they're ready to which for all we know will be in the next update.

We know for a fact that Kabam has raised the catalyst limits in the past so it is a safe bet to assume they would do it again. Besides there's no need for anyone to panic until Kabam have released enough T3A for it to actually go into the overflow, which again Kabam knows exactly how many frags they've released in total so far.

Mobile_P0tat0

*insert paywall conspiracies here*

FluffyPigMonster

Bendy said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

It’s just an example of an oversight to me. And it makes me feel like R4’s are not close to happening if they’re not planning it out properly from now.

Gamer

FluffyPigMonster said:

Bendy said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

It’s just an example of an oversight to me. And it makes me feel like R4’s are not close to happening if they’re not planning it out properly from now.

Was u here when 5 star r5 com there make it two tier5b rather that’s 3 or 4.

FluffyPigMonster

Gamer said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Bendy said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

It’s just an example of an oversight to me. And it makes me feel like R4’s are not close to happening if they’re not planning it out properly from now.

Was u here when 5 star r5 com there make it two tier5b rather that’s 3 or 4.

You only need 2 T5b for a R5 5*, and I’ve been here from the beginning in 2014.

ItsDamien

FluffyPigMonster said:

Gamer said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Bendy said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

It’s just an example of an oversight to me. And it makes me feel like R4’s are not close to happening if they’re not planning it out properly from now.

Was u here when 5 star r5 com there make it two tier5b rather that’s 3 or 4.

You only need 2 T5b for a R5 5*, and I’ve been here from the beginning in 2014.

Yes but before T5B was available to R5 a champ they required more than 2. Kabam later changed that.

FluffyPigMonster

ItsDamien said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Gamer said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Bendy said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

It’s just an example of an oversight to me. And it makes me feel like R4’s are not close to happening if they’re not planning it out properly from now.

Was u here when 5 star r5 com there make it two tier5b rather that’s 3 or 4.

You only need 2 T5b for a R5 5*, and I’ve been here from the beginning in 2014.

Yes but before T5B was available to R5 a champ they required more than 2. Kabam later changed that.

I remember. And perhaps they need a reminder that they’ll have to do it again.

Friendly reminder! Skip all the back and forth and make it so now instead of later.

ItsDamien

FluffyPigMonster said:

ItsDamien said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Gamer said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Bendy said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

It’s just an example of an oversight to me. And it makes me feel like R4’s are not close to happening if they’re not planning it out properly from now.

Was u here when 5 star r5 com there make it two tier5b rather that’s 3 or 4.

You only need 2 T5b for a R5 5*, and I’ve been here from the beginning in 2014.

Yes but before T5B was available to R5 a champ they required more than 2. Kabam later changed that.

I remember. And perhaps they need a reminder that they’ll have to do it again.

Friendly reminder! Skip all the back and forth and make it so now instead of later.

They'll do it when they're ready to. There's literally no rush to implement it right now.

Pulyaman

FluffyPigMonster said:

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

The devs will know what amount they are releasing into the game. When the time comes, they will either increase the limit based on another progression title, or decrease the amount to rank up the champ so that you can claim the stash after ranking up a champ. The alternate is that you can buy the sigil and I think it will increase the limit.

The limit of 2 is with the sigil.

You speaketh as if you are privy to their plans!

Point is - some of us may have to wait more than 30 days to R4 someone. I don’t believe everyone will magically arrive at 3 Tier alpha 3 catalysts and have all their materials ready for the champ they want.

You speak as if you are the only intelligent person playing the game. This has been brought up by CCP members long back. The devs are aware of it.
I have no idea regarding sigil since I don't buy that. But, it was a guess because we have had people not hitting lvl 60 getting to TB because if sigil.

Gamer

FluffyPigMonster said:

Gamer said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Bendy said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

I’m just saying sometimes things get overlooked. You both sound like Kabam has a master plan that includes only allowing 2 catalysts to be carried, yet requiring 3 for a rank up, only to be changed later.

Why don’t we skip that part and just make the limit 3 now since they’ve already set the rank up requirements.

I dont get why they made it 1 u can hold without sigil but i do think they will increase it to hold 3 without sigil its just when that is

It’s just an example of an oversight to me. And it makes me feel like R4’s are not close to happening if they’re not planning it out properly from now.

Was u here when 5 star r5 com there make it two tier5b rather that’s 3 or 4.

You only need 2 T5b for a R5 5*, and I’ve been here from the beginning in 2014.

Then u unfortunately didn’t see there changed the back then before u even cul rank them so I’m pretty sure there knew what to do

FluffyPigMonster

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

The devs will know what amount they are releasing into the game. When the time comes, they will either increase the limit based on another progression title, or decrease the amount to rank up the champ so that you can claim the stash after ranking up a champ. The alternate is that you can buy the sigil and I think it will increase the limit.

The limit of 2 is with the sigil.

You speaketh as if you are privy to their plans!

Point is - some of us may have to wait more than 30 days to R4 someone. I don’t believe everyone will magically arrive at 3 Tier alpha 3 catalysts and have all their materials ready for the champ they want.

You speak as if you are the only intelligent person playing the game. This has been brought up by CCP members long back. The devs are aware of it.
I have no idea regarding sigil since I don't buy that. But, it was a guess because we have had people not hitting lvl 60 getting to TB because if sigil.

I’m making a point. I don’t pretend to know what the CCP or developers are doing. Im merely pointing out a discrepancy. Of course they’ll change it, but I’m pointing it out. Im not apologizing or making excuses for Kabam. The way it is doesn’t line up, for now. All I know is what exists, not what could potentially exist. You even said “get the Sigil” but were correct there. Am I to believe that other assumptions are correct.

I’m pointing out a discrepancy.

Gamer

Also why worry abudt it now though

FluffyPigMonster

Gamer said:

Also why worry abudt it now though

I’m not worried. Merely pointing it out. People are ranting about Guilly and Ant-Man and I’m pointing this out, but it seems that I’m not allowed to point something out that is weird.

DawsMan

They might say its three, then tell us it's 2 after whales have spent to get three. They also might be planning new levels, perhaps new masterys? (Hello coming soon masteries)

FluffyPigMonster

DawsMan said:

They might say its three, then tell us it's 2 after whales have spent to get three. They also might be planning new levels, perhaps new masterys? (Hello coming soon masteries)

I agree with all that, but at least they can be consistent from the beginning.

ItsDamien

FluffyPigMonster said:

DawsMan said:

They might say its three, then tell us it's 2 after whales have spent to get three. They also might be planning new levels, perhaps new masterys? (Hello coming soon masteries)

I agree with all that, but at least they can be consistent from the beginning.

But this is consistent with what they've done in the past. They've done it before.

DawsMan

FluffyPigMonster said:

DawsMan said:

They might say its three, then tell us it's 2 after whales have spent to get three. They also might be planning new levels, perhaps new masterys? (Hello coming soon masteries)

I agree with all that, but at least they can be consistent from the beginning.

Well you have no control over that. And for all we know they are being consistent and we'll see what happens.

FluffyPigMonster

DawsMan said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

DawsMan said:

They might say its three, then tell us it's 2 after whales have spent to get three. They also might be planning new levels, perhaps new masterys? (Hello coming soon masteries)

I agree with all that, but at least they can be consistent from the beginning.

Well you have no control over that. And for all we know they are being consistent and we'll see what happens.

Thanks, dude. You’re right.

BuggyDClown

I can get some of what OP trying to say. And I can agree to some extent.

But we have to keep in mind that Devs ACTUALLY KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT T6CC AMD T6BC they have released so far. So when times comes When there will be a practical situation where someone or atleast 1 person in whole mcoc will have enough material to r4 someone as soon last bit of frag for t6 will release( deal or content whatever it may).
So far it haven't enough for 1(maybe it has). So for 3 T6 Cats to come It can actually take a year.

Now it gives a situation which is based upon current state and ROADMAP WE GOT

Devs said that New mastery will be available. So either we will get by them default or have to earn by Leveling ( assuming new level will be introduced). And Inventory Cap have been always tied to exp levels( untill sigil came). We can get simply Level upgrades to raise inventory cap .
OR
When times comes they will increase the Current inventory Cap to the required point.

Only problem I see that I don't want to see Paywall for inventory. As it will upset most of the F2P end gamers( here I mean sigil). Tho sigil actually can help to r4 6 stars on low exp levels as I to do for t5cc now.

Why I don't see need of cap to be increased right now:
Kabam have lot of things planned. They might ne waiting for the perfect or suitable time. Like the day there will be enough frags of t6 to form 2 of them they will act upon it. Or they have certain things In mind like introducing masteries, r4 champs by increasing inventory cap via levels which can be related to masteries too.

So till then I think we should wait how it turns around as t6 frags are coming either in Deals or in hand game content.

FluffyPigMonster

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

The devs will know what amount they are releasing into the game. When the time comes, they will either increase the limit based on another progression title, or decrease the amount to rank up the champ so that you can claim the stash after ranking up a champ. The alternate is that you can buy the sigil and I think it will increase the limit.

The limit of 2 is with the sigil.

You speaketh as if you are privy to their plans!

Point is - some of us may have to wait more than 30 days to R4 someone. I don’t believe everyone will magically arrive at 3 Tier alpha 3 catalysts and have all their materials ready for the champ they want.

You speak as if you are the only intelligent person playing the game. This has been brought up by CCP members long back. The devs are aware of it.
I have no idea regarding sigil since I don't buy that. But, it was a guess because we have had people not hitting lvl 60 getting to TB because if sigil.

I don’t pretend to know what the CCP or developers are doing, nor do I apologize for Kabam. It’s a discrepancy which doesn’t line up and I’m pointing it out.

FluffyPigMonster

BuggyDClown said:

I can get some of what OP trying to say. And I can agree to some extent.

But we have to keep in mind that Devs ACTUALLY KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT T6CC AMD T6BC they have released so far. So when times comes When there will be a practical situation where someone or atleast 1 person in whole mcoc will have enough material to r4 someone as soon last bit of frag for t6 will release( deal or content whatever it may).
So far it haven't enough for 1(maybe it has). So for 3 T6 Cats to come It can actually take a year.

Now it gives a situation which is based upon current state and ROADMAP WE GOT

Devs said that New mastery will be available. So either we will get by them default or have to earn by Leveling ( assuming new level will be introduced). And Inventory Cap have been always tied to exp levels( untill sigil came). We can get simply Level upgrades to raise inventory cap .
OR
When times comes they will increase the Current inventory Cap to the required point.

Only problem I see that I don't want to see Paywall for inventory. As it will upset most of the F2P end gamers( here I mean sigil). Tho sigil actually can help to r4 6 stars on low exp levels as I to do for t5cc now.

Why I don't see need of cap to be increased right now:
Kabam have lot of things planned. They might ne waiting for the perfect or suitable time. Like the day there will be enough frags of t6 to form 2 of them they will act upon it. Or they have certain things In mind like introducing masteries, r4 champs by increasing inventory cap via levels which can be related to masteries too.

So till then I think we should wait how it turns around as t6 frags are coming either in Deals or in hand game content.

Thanks. Logical response and makes perfect sense

BuggyDClown

FluffyPigMonster said:

BuggyDClown said:

I can get some of what OP trying to say. And I can agree to some extent.

But we have to keep in mind that Devs ACTUALLY KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT T6CC AMD T6BC they have released so far. So when times comes When there will be a practical situation where someone or atleast 1 person in whole mcoc will have enough material to r4 someone as soon last bit of frag for t6 will release( deal or content whatever it may).
So far it haven't enough for 1(maybe it has). So for 3 T6 Cats to come It can actually take a year.

Now it gives a situation which is based upon current state and ROADMAP WE GOT

Devs said that New mastery will be available. So either we will get by them default or have to earn by Leveling ( assuming new level will be introduced). And Inventory Cap have been always tied to exp levels( untill sigil came). We can get simply Level upgrades to raise inventory cap .
OR
When times comes they will increase the Current inventory Cap to the required point.

Only problem I see that I don't want to see Paywall for inventory. As it will upset most of the F2P end gamers( here I mean sigil). Tho sigil actually can help to r4 6 stars on low exp levels as I to do for t5cc now.

Why I don't see need of cap to be increased right now:
Kabam have lot of things planned. They might ne waiting for the perfect or suitable time. Like the day there will be enough frags of t6 to form 2 of them they will act upon it. Or they have certain things In mind like introducing masteries, r4 champs by increasing inventory cap via levels which can be related to masteries too.

So till then I think we should wait how it turns around as t6 frags are coming either in Deals or in hand game content.

Thanks. Logical response and makes perfect sense

Np mate. I am really glad you came up with this topic as it may not be important as of now but it shows relevance how things can go later so better to discuss now ( low-key a discussion to avoid the potential paywall on inventory cap which I really support) 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

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Pulyaman

Haji_Saab said:

I think they need to announce their intention sooner rather than later.

For example, if they decide to reduce the requirement to 1 t6b and there is half a t6b in an offer, this is now more valuable than the current situation.

Don't see why though. They could have a time line that people can r4 t champs only after july 4 or something like that. We are assuming that they will reduce the amount. But from the offers releasing, it looks like it may actually be 3 and we may get an inventory increase sooner than later.

Pulyaman

FluffyPigMonster said:

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

Pulyaman said:

FluffyPigMonster said:

So I was looking at my Tigra who is an R3 (highly recommend), and noticed that you will need 3 Tier 3 Alphas in order to bring her to rank 4.

Now I don’t even have 1, and I’m a loooooong way away from R4ing (is that a new verb?) a 6* champ, but when I went to check how many Tier 3 alpha shards I had from completing Gauntlet and Carina, I noticed that you can only have 2 Tier 3 catalysts max. A third will go into your stash?

Now we’re a long ways away from getting a third let alone a first, but given that you need 3, what if you don’t get the tier 6 basic you need and it all goes into stash and expires?




If there’s something I missed please let me know - but it’s a glimpse into what could be problematic in the future for many of us.

The devs will know what amount they are releasing into the game. When the time comes, they will either increase the limit based on another progression title, or decrease the amount to rank up the champ so that you can claim the stash after ranking up a champ. The alternate is that you can buy the sigil and I think it will increase the limit.

The limit of 2 is with the sigil.

You speaketh as if you are privy to their plans!

Point is - some of us may have to wait more than 30 days to R4 someone. I don’t believe everyone will magically arrive at 3 Tier alpha 3 catalysts and have all their materials ready for the champ they want.

You speak as if you are the only intelligent person playing the game. This has been brought up by CCP members long back. The devs are aware of it.
I have no idea regarding sigil since I don't buy that. But, it was a guess because we have had people not hitting lvl 60 getting to TB because if sigil.

I don’t pretend to know what the CCP or developers are doing, nor do I apologize for Kabam. It’s a discrepancy which doesn’t line up and I’m pointing it out.

You are pointing out an obvious thing. And when I tried to say that the devs know this thing, yo asked me if I am privy to their plans. No one is. Everyone is guessing at this point.