Digestible solution to 6* AG issue

Sighsohard

Final day store is open offer:
Thronebreaker: 5* generic AG 1k units
Cavalier: 5* class specific AG 1k units
Uncollected: 5* awakening gem crystal 1k units

Thronebreaker don’t much care for 5* generic. Most of us just traded them all in for 1 random 6* AG or got kinda shafted for not hoarding. I’ve awakened quite a few champs simply because gems were expiring

Cavs should have access to the 6* AG at a cost likely expensive to them while sacrificing something still likely useful to them.

And so on.

There is a limit on the AGs so it’s not like a TB could buy multiple with thousands of units.

Coppin

So your total pricing for 1 6* AG is about 5k units... Under 200 dollars .. its very optimistic...

Sighsohard

Coppin said:

So your total pricing for 1 6* AG is about 5k units... Under 200 dollars .. its very optimistic...

For a TB? Other TBs spent 5 generics for 1 AG. 5 5* generics to a TB are a 0$ value….
1k units is more valuable to a TB than 5 5* generic gems.

MCOCHazza

I agree with this. Maybe make the purchase limit 1, or 2 maximum, since I think it would include those on the cusp of a 6* gem, who are still in the category of ‘I don’t use 5*s anymore so I don’t find 5* gems that valuable’ but still obviously use them on a new champion if they’re interesting etc.

MCOCHazza

Or rather than ‘dont use 5*s’, just ‘my focus is 6* and so I don’t rank up 5*s much anymore’. You get the idea. People in that boat

Sighsohard

Hazzalec said:

Or rather than ‘dont use 5*s’, just ‘my focus is 6* and so I don’t rank up 5*s much anymore’. You get the idea. People in that boat

Exactly. I’ve awakened multiple 5* champs simply because I had an AG expiring. I never leveled these champs. But it felt odd to let it expire. This was obviously pre cap removal.

Coppin

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

So your total pricing for 1 6* AG is about 5k units... Under 200 dollars .. its very optimistic...

For a TB? Other TBs spent 5 generics for 1 AG. 5 5* generics to a TB are a 0$ value….
1k units is more valuable to a TB than 5 5* generic gems.

It doesnt matter what progression you are... 1000 units are 1000 units...
3 feat cav and change
33 energy packs and change..
And so on

I am not saying its worth more or less, i am comparing it to a 6* Generic Ag that "cost" or was behind a 15k paywall... Yeah there was a lot of items before u could buy it and were worth the other units... But still to get it u had to have 18k units...

Sighsohard

KaLikOT said:

Sighsohard said:

Hazzalec said:

Or rather than ‘dont use 5*s’, just ‘my focus is 6* and so I don’t rank up 5*s much anymore’. You get the idea. People in that boat

Exactly. I’ve awakened multiple 5* champs simply because I had an AG expiring. I never leveled these champs. But it felt odd to let it expire. This was obviously pre cap removal.

How can 5 star awakening gems expire when they do not go to overflow? They have no limit.

There used to be a limit. When there was. I had them expiring….

Sighsohard

Coppin said:

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

So your total pricing for 1 6* AG is about 5k units... Under 200 dollars .. its very optimistic...

For a TB? Other TBs spent 5 generics for 1 AG. 5 5* generics to a TB are a 0$ value….
1k units is more valuable to a TB than 5 5* generic gems.

It doesnt matter what progression you are... 1000 units are 1000 units...
3 feat cav and change
33 energy packs and change..
And so on

I am not saying its worth more or less, i am comparing it to a 6* Generic Ag that "cost" or was behind a 15k paywall... Yeah there was a lot of items before u could buy it and were worth the other units... But still to get it u had to have 18k units...

What I think you’re either missing or just disagreeing on is the fact that 5* gems have immense value to some and no value to others. I have 12 gems of various class(or generic) I’d gladly trade all 12 for a 6* AG. I’ll never use them for anything else.
Being that a 6* AG previously was behind a 15k paywall isn’t relevant to it being behind a 5, 5* generic paywall now.

Bpn88855

Sighsohard said:

Hazzalec said:

Or rather than ‘dont use 5*s’, just ‘my focus is 6* and so I don’t rank up 5*s much anymore’. You get the idea. People in that boat

Exactly. I’ve awakened multiple 5* champs simply because I had an AG expiring. I never leveled these champs. But it felt odd to let it expire. This was obviously pre cap removal.

But u could awaken just those that expires and leave others. I had 4-7 gems at some classes before trade event

Sighsohard

Bpn88855 said:

Sighsohard said:

Hazzalec said:

Or rather than ‘dont use 5*s’, just ‘my focus is 6* and so I don’t rank up 5*s much anymore’. You get the idea. People in that boat

Exactly. I’ve awakened multiple 5* champs simply because I had an AG expiring. I never leveled these champs. But it felt odd to let it expire. This was obviously pre cap removal.

But u could awaken just those that expires and leave others. I had 4-7 gems at some classes before trade event

Did exactly that. Fell short. Used 3 expiring mystic and 1 mutant. 1 of either would have been enough in this case.

Coppin

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

So your total pricing for 1 6* AG is about 5k units... Under 200 dollars .. its very optimistic...

For a TB? Other TBs spent 5 generics for 1 AG. 5 5* generics to a TB are a 0$ value….
1k units is more valuable to a TB than 5 5* generic gems.

It doesnt matter what progression you are... 1000 units are 1000 units...
3 feat cav and change
33 energy packs and change..
And so on

I am not saying its worth more or less, i am comparing it to a 6* Generic Ag that "cost" or was behind a 15k paywall... Yeah there was a lot of items before u could buy it and were worth the other units... But still to get it u had to have 18k units...

What I think you’re either missing or just disagreeing on is the fact that 5* gems have immense value to some and no value to others. I have 12 gems of various class(or generic) I’d gladly trade all 12 for a 6* AG. I’ll never use them for anything else.
Being that a 6* AG previously was behind a 15k paywall isn’t relevant to it being behind a 5, 5* generic paywall now.

The value was the same until this trade store came out... The reason why the value was the same is that the acquisition of champs is based on RNG.
Thats where the player decision comes, u could have used them just cause u wanted or save them.
This trade store just upped the value by a lot.
Lets say there was an offer for money.. 1 generic 5* AG for 24.99 dollars before the trade store u would have thought.. "That's crazy at this stage of the game" .. If they put one today for 49.99 and u r only missing 1 you might actually consider buying it.

Shadowstrike

They're not going to give us units, no matter how much we beg.

ChunkeyMonkey_1016

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Coppin

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

Sighsohard

Coppin said:

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

What about AGs that were used because they were expiring. How is that the fault of the summoner. You keep glossing over that

CoatHang3r

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

What about AGs that were used because they were expiring. How is that the fault of the summoner. You keep glossing over that

Expiring 5* gems never existed.

Sighsohard

CoatHang3r said:

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

What about AGs that were used because they were expiring. How is that the fault of the summoner. You keep glossing over that

Expiring 5* gems never existed.

I don’t want to continue searching thru millions of screen shots but yes there was

CoatHang3r

Sighsohard said:

CoatHang3r said:

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

What about AGs that were used because they were expiring. How is that the fault of the summoner. You keep glossing over that

Expiring 5* gems never existed.

I don’t want to continue searching thru millions of screen shots but yes there was

I don’t see a limit. Searching through a million screenshots wouldn’t change the fact they never had a limit. And that screenshot says nothing when it could’ve been taken today; any item with no limit says the same look at platpool pieces, sigil credits, act 5 keys etc.

Coppin

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

What about AGs that were used because they were expiring. How is that the fault of the summoner. You keep glossing over that

So you are trying to tell me that he timed class catalyst with advancement event and expiration....
Hmm btw i am answering him not u.. hrnce the quote...

Sighsohard

Coppin said:

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

What about AGs that were used because they were expiring. How is that the fault of the summoner. You keep glossing over that

So you are trying to tell me that he timed class catalyst with advancement event and expiration....
Hmm btw i am answering him not u.. hrnce the quote...

But again you’re putting value on something that some people see no value in. 5* AGs, especially class specific, have no value to a lot of people. They’re literally throw always. You said “too low to consider on AG on” a 5* class gem is less useful than a t1 iso to some people. So if people used them for advancement or for item use that might have been, and probably was, the ONLY use they could find for them. Now it’s turned into something that miraculously has a wonderful use.
There’s not much point in going back and forth anymore tho. I said my piece. I’ll leave it there. Fact is, and it’s not disputable, if you boarded all your AGs it was a good idea. Counter to the ever narrative that you shouldn’t hoard.

GroundedWisdom

People really shouldn't go out of the way of their normal habits either way because of this. It wasn't designed with the intentions of getting people to save everything. It was designed with the intentions of allowing the people who aren't using them to begin with, to get some use from them. It's neither encouragement or discouragement.
Personally I'll never subscribe to the idea that only Ranking and Awakening one Rarity is the best option to play, but I still respect that it's how some people choose to play. I certainly wouldn't suggest people ignore uses that could help them in lieu of the Trade-In down the line either.

LordSmasher

I can understand why people afer miffed. 6 star awakening gems are extremely rare, I had obtained 1 in 4 years. Now 2 because RNG went in my favour.
I'll never open a 3-4 star awakening gem crystal ever again. I'll refrain from using 5 star gems as well. The pay off for holding them is too high.

Coppin

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

Sighsohard said:

Coppin said:

ChunkeyMonkey_1016 said:

Perhaps the 6* ag should be given depending on how many 5* ag you've acquired total and have an event to attain a tad more. The way the trade-in is currently structured assumes and/or rewards those that hoard their gems and goes against their principle on hoarding. I've used my gems on advancement events for points with no premonition of this trade-in event because my roster has transitioned to 6*s. This among other issues questions their integrity which is no bueno. On the verge (just saying).

Advancement event rewards are too low to even consider using a AG; but thats my opinion

What about AGs that were used because they were expiring. How is that the fault of the summoner. You keep glossing over that

So you are trying to tell me that he timed class catalyst with advancement event and expiration....
Hmm btw i am answering him not u.. hrnce the quote...

But again you’re putting value on something that some people see no value in. 5* AGs, especially class specific, have no value to a lot of people. They’re literally throw always. You said “too low to consider on AG on” a 5* class gem is less useful than a t1 iso to some people. So if people used them for advancement or for item use that might have been, and probably was, the ONLY use they could find for them. Now it’s turned into something that miraculously has a wonderful use.
There’s not much point in going back and forth anymore tho. I said my piece. I’ll leave it there. Fact is, and it’s not disputable, if you boarded all your AGs it was a good idea. Counter to the ever narrative that you shouldn’t hoard.

The game is RNG based, 5* AG have value, if in your case they didnt i'm sorry i guess .
Tell someone who has 100 6* but was never able to pull Nick Fury for example that a 5* Skill AG has no value... Its all RNG based starting from the acquisition of the champ u r going to spend that AG on.. so its RNG over RNG.
There is a funny part about this trade store...
There is people who open AG crystals hoping fot that 1 class that they don't have and continuo stacking up the class that they have the most...
Those people finally caught a BIG BREAK.