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Longshot Mechanics

solopolosolopolo Posts: 883 ★★★
edited April 2022 in Strategy and Tips
Longshot's abilities mention his base Ability Accuracy being 300%. What does this mean exactly? That all his abilities have their AA tripled? Or that they can't be reduced if his AA isn't reduced below 100%?
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  • solopolosolopolo Posts: 883 ★★★
    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Posts: 3,943 ★★★★★
    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Posts: 5,342 ★★★★★
    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
    Do you have a screenshot?
  • CyborgNinja135CyborgNinja135 Posts: 1,016 ★★★★
    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    In his passive abilities description it states that modified chances are already shown in his abilities page. Same goes for any of his synergies.
  • buffajrbuffajr Posts: 411 ★★
    I think his increased AA is one of the most overlooked abilities in the game. He’s so reliable!
  • CyborgNinja135CyborgNinja135 Posts: 1,016 ★★★★
    buffajr said:

    I think his increased AA is one of the most overlooked abilities in the game. He’s so reliable!

    Perfect against Black Cat in this month's EQ
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Posts: 3,943 ★★★★★
    edited April 2022
    TheBair123 said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
    Do you have a screenshot?
    @TheBair123

  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Posts: 3,943 ★★★★★
    For example, what would happen with buff cornucopia?

    Would it go from having a 50% to trigger to having a:

    150% (3*50)
    350% (300+50)
    Or would no increase in ability accuracy occur?
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Posts: 5,342 ★★★★★
    edited April 2022
    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
    https://youtu.be/Y9SmtbSbf1I
    @SkyLord7000 there’s your answer
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,451 ★★★★★
    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
    The increased ability accuracy would work for nodes like those. Even as a defender he increases the chance of defensive nodes like harard shifts or biohazard of triggering
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Posts: 3,943 ★★★★★
    TheBair123 said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
    https://youtu.be/Y9SmtbSbf1I
    @SkyLord7000 there’s your answer
    What does that mean? Would it be 90% or 390%?
  • ImmortalImmortal Posts: 323 ★★
    CyborgNinja135 said:

    buffajr said:

    I think his increased AA is one of the most overlooked abilities in the game. He’s so reliable!

    Perfect against Black Cat in this month's EQ
    I read this and took him in… instantly destroyed lol so what does he counter on that fight??
  • CyborgNinja135CyborgNinja135 Posts: 1,016 ★★★★
    Immortal said:

    CyborgNinja135 said:

    buffajr said:

    I think his increased AA is one of the most overlooked abilities in the game. He’s so reliable!

    Perfect against Black Cat in this month's EQ
    I read this and took him in… instantly destroyed lol so what does he counter on that fight??
    He's immune to passive AAR and Black Cat reduces DAA for every hit on her combo meter. I got rekt a few times too because I still can't get consistent parries against her for some reason when using Longshot or Archangel, despite both of them having AAR immunity
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
    https://youtu.be/Y9SmtbSbf1I
    @SkyLord7000 there’s your answer
    What does that mean? Would it be 90% or 390%?
    It’s covered in his spotlight.

    “Low Chance Buff nodes
    If Longshot is placed on a Node in Alliance War Defense that has a low chance of activating, Longshot’s base increase of Ability Accuracy increases the chances of that ability activation by 300%.”

    “Developer Notes: Longshot will be unaffected by passive Ability Accuracy modifications from Champions like Domino or Blade. Additionally, if you place him on a War defense node that has a Buff such as “Freezer Burn”, his base Ability Accuracy makes it so he has a 60% chance to Incinerate his Opponent whenever he is Struck.”

    Freezer Burn
    When striking the Defender, the Attacker has a 20% chance to be inflicted with an Incinerate Debuff
  • KaruseusKaruseus Posts: 528 ★★
    Increased by 300%, and the 20% chance becomes 60% chance?
    Isn’t that 200% increase?

    Increased by 100% means 20% becomes 40% chance (+20%p)
    So 300% increase should mean 20% become 80% (+60%p)

    Seems like Kabam made a small mistake there
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Karuseus said:

    Increased by 300%, and the 20% chance becomes 60% chance?
    Isn’t that 200% increase?

    Increased by 100% means 20% becomes 40% chance (+20%p)
    So 300% increase should mean 20% become 80% (+60%p)

    Seems like Kabam made a small mistake there

    Normally champions have 100% ability accuracy which then modifies the 20% ability chance to be 20%. longshot has 300% modifying that 20% by 3 for 60%.
  • MSRDLDMSRDLD Posts: 910 ★★★
    TheBair123 said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    TheBair123 said:

    solopolo said:

    TheBair123 said:

    the whole point is that even if you have somebody like archangel who can even get up to like 150% ability accuracy reduction, longshot won't have his abilities fail. basically, it's a safety net against ability accuracy reduction entirely

    but does it actually increase the percentages written on his abilities and synergies?
    no, it just ensures that they are going to trigger. the stats are the same, it's just that there's almost no way that they would fail to trigger because of ability accuracy reduction.
    What about things not in his kit like the incursions hack “lightning fists” then?
    https://youtu.be/Y9SmtbSbf1I
    @SkyLord7000 there’s your answer
    I love how you told the dude to take node 4 and he goes for 3. Always a good time.
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