AQ ticket Cost out of balance

Hudsonman

I am currently in an Alliance that runs AQ 8X5. I enjoy playing the more challenging AQ maps and want to continue doing it. My dilemma is that with the current Cost to play it-i feel as though i am hurting my ability to grow my account. Gold has become a pain point for my account as I have 6 R4's and 44 R3's. Ranking these champs up has drained my gold and i would like to continue ranking up more niche champs to R3 especially with BG becoming more permanent. With Loyalty being more valuable with the addition of the store it's hard to justify spending it on alliance tickets. Which leaves units and Gold to play AQ. The gap in rewards between playing map 6 and map 8 is very minor and less valuable to me than the Gold/units. It just doesn't feel great to be spending resources to play harder content and instead of feeling rewarded for the effort i actually feel penalized.
I am wondering if others are feeling this way and if Kabam has taken a recent look at the discrepancy. We finish top 120 in my Ally and if i dropped down to map 6 i could still easily be top 800 and the rewards difference is practically nothing. The increase in T5CC, T5B, and T2A in side events and monthly event quest were great and welcome changes. But they have created a balance issue with the cost of AQ tickets and the rewards associated with playing higher tier AQ. I don't spend items in map 8 so that's not a concern for me-it's really just the cost of the tickets. I am fine with them existing and being part of the game but if they are going to be there the rewards need to be worth it. And right now if my goal is to continue to grow my account-I'm better off playing map 6.

TyEdge

What’s your weekly score? I have thoughts after I eat dinner

TyEdge

So, there’s a major issue with AQ scoring because you get 3400 glory at 250,000,000 and also at 599,999,999. The rewards, especially t5b and t2a, don’t scale with higher tiers. Glory doesn’t meaningfully increase, and even if it did, the glory store prices get worse with each purchase. Right now, my next glory purchase of t5b (an insignificant 15%) costs 650.

Run the numbers on that and you learn a few things.

1) if you spend any resources for AQ (healing items, I mean) you’ve basically come out behind.

2) you’re absolutely right that the loyalty store changes this calculation. Gold hoarders and arena grinders are the ones who can feel best here.

3) I run map 5 in a 665 group. We hit about 390mil just screwing around every week. I get 4600 glory and 3 t4cc. If you’re having to buy t4cc, 3 will cost you 900 glory. You don’t make that up elsewhere, either.

TitoBandito187

TyEdge said:

So, there’s a major issue with AQ scoring because you get 3400 glory at 250,000,000 and also at 599,999,999. The rewards, especially t5b and t2a, don’t scale with higher tiers. Glory doesn’t meaningfully increase, and even if it did, the glory store prices get worse with each purchase. Right now, my next glory purchase of t5b (an insignificant 15%) costs 650.

Interesting. Where are the point rewards listed at (just for my own curiosity)? We run map 6 and do minimal modifiers just to get to 400 million as a goal. That nets the base 3400 glory plus an extra 1200 glory in bonus each week (4600) which seems to be the same amount that @tyedge is getting doing 665 and possibly no modifiers(?).

I realize ally prestige makes a difference in scores as well (we're pretty big at about 62 million ally rating and 11761 day 1 prestige) but almost seems like, why even run any higher map than absolutely necessary to get the best amount of glory if the gaps is so big?

Going back to OP's point, I absolutely see his view if he's getting not much more glory for the cost. I will say though, the map 8 crystals and chance for the R4 materials with rank rewards is something I have no chance of getting while running map 6. As those become more available in game though, the AQ rewards do need updates to make it worth the same effort.

TyEdge

Click on AQ then hit “view rewards” in the bottom left. We are 12,006 prestige and run mostly heroic mods. We usually rank 800-1200 iirc.

The mini accounts that I’m going to abandon because of the terrible gifting nonsense…they’re TB and Cav. They run map 4 in a 554, score around 190mil and still get more than 4000 glory for doing it. So…why bother?

I say that specifically as someone who needs time and mental space to explore act 7 (30-35 paths left.)

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GabeZRod

Map 8 crystals don’t give R4 materials. The only way you get a minuscule amount of R4 materials is if you’re in the top 45 as of now, which requires a continuous spending or arena grinding to keep high prestige champs on your profile. Our alliance is testing out reward comparisons running just Map 6 because so many of our F2P players are just bone dry on gold and full of T5cc crystals they can’t use because they’re gold poor. It’s costing people 1.5M gold if not using loyalty, which just isn’t sustainable unless you’re continuously grinding arena or paying money for AQ tickets. Top 90 rewards from last week are below.

TitoBandito187

TyEdge said:

Click on AQ then hit “view rewards” in the bottom left. We are 12,006 prestige and run mostly heroic mods. We usually rank 800-1200 iirc.

The mini accounts that I’m going to abandon because of the terrible gifting nonsense…they’re TB and Cav. They run map 4 in a 554, score around 190mil and still get more than 4000 glory for doing it. So…why bother?

I say that specifically as someone who needs time and mental space to explore act 7 (30-35 paths left.)

Wow. I don't know how I never put that together. We could be doing map 5 with no mods and get the same glory. Just lose 2 crystals that sometimes don't come anyway if we complete cut don't explore cause someone is missing in action.

TyEdge

TitoBandito187 said:

TyEdge said:

Click on AQ then hit “view rewards” in the bottom left. We are 12,006 prestige and run mostly heroic mods. We usually rank 800-1200 iirc.

The mini accounts that I’m going to abandon because of the terrible gifting nonsense…they’re TB and Cav. They run map 4 in a 554, score around 190mil and still get more than 4000 glory for doing it. So…why bother?

I say that specifically as someone who needs time and mental space to explore act 7 (30-35 paths left.)

Wow. I don't know how I never put that together. We could be doing map 5 with no mods and get the same glory. Just lose 2 crystals that sometimes don't come anyway if we complete cut don't explore cause someone is missing in action.

Yeah, you lose 100 glory each time you drop one rank reward milestone but whatever. That’s essentially 1000 t5b frags.

Meanwhile I have over 5 million loyalty and I’ll be paragon when the next EoP ends. Then I’ll just stockpile AGs one per war season until my loyalty is gone.

Panchulon21

Yeah I get about 6k glory I believe. (Don’t even notice lol) we rank between 86-91 every week. I don’t care about spending gold but do care about spending units or loyalty on tickets. I think these maps should be rewarding gold and loyalty for completion. Loyalty is an alliance currency so why not reward it with alliance type of play? Or if you manage to clear it why not get back half your ticket costs in say.. gold or loyalty. Or maybe even get back half the tickets. So for map 8 it costs 30 tickets. If you clear 100% each member gets back 15 tickets. For map 7 each member gets back 7 or 8 tickets.