The biggest issue with BG matchmaking

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  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

    Damn you seem to really hate the fact that people keep pointing out how terrible the game mode is due do the flaws in its design. If you want to keep bullying people with lower rosters just say that instead of typing paragraphs acting all "I know what the problem actually is and I also know the solution, everyone else is wrong and only I am right"
    How is it bullying smfh I really don't see tht they reset the standing every season so everyone starts at the same place yes it sucks to face rosters filled with the newest champs at the highest ranks but tbh the majority of ppl that have those earned them now your trying to call them bullies for using them strategically what a joke
    Using them strategically? You mean using 15 maxed out 6* and then 15 1* so your rating is low enough that you face people who barely have any 6* and basically get a guaranteed win while they get nothing cause there's literally noth8ng they can do about it? That's not using them strategically, that's being an arsehole lmao why you gotta lie to yourself like that?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★

    @ItsClobberinTime there is zero point to these back and forth so with you but I'm going to just dona quick summary of your responses in this thread.

    Your initial response was heavy disagreeing with me and accused me of bullying.

    Several in the thread have pointed how what an inaccurate comment that was by you, and I find it more interesting that your the one who keeps going to insults and name calling while accusing those of a different thought process than you as bullying.

    You have claimed several times in this thread and others that you keep getting horribly unfair matchups in bronze, but despite half a dozen requests you have failed to show even one screenshot which proves you are heavily exaggerating the conditions of what you are claiming.

    I strongly believe you are heavily exaggerating your claims as I've tested this out numerous times and nothing even remotely close to what you claiming has happened in lower tiers where you claim it's happening constantly to you.

    You heavily disagrees with my initial post but then later agreed with an exact idea (with different symantics) that someone else said which was the same recommendation I made in original post.

    You claim others as being entitled, but your the one expecting to get special treatment based on having a less developed roster while most of the rest of us just want to compete in a way that is fair to those competing for the same rewards (why should weaker player get easier path to same rewards as someone more invested in the game?).

    I know your going to feel the need to get the last word and probably counterdict yourself even more, but have at it as therea zero point in continuing this conversation with someone who is displaying the above traits.

    When I used the word bullying I assumed you people would take it with a grain of salt not literally, I now see some of you lack the intelligence and do take it literally so yes that is my fault for assuming I guess lmao.

    Dozen requests? You're the only one asking for them even though there's already loads of them on the forums from other people who actually took the screenshots, I didn't because as Ientioned a dozen time, I didn't think someone in these forums would be dumb enough to not realize how flawed the matchmaking is.

    Highly doubt you tested it since you don't see the problem and cry every single time someone mentions it.

    I never asked for special treatment, or asked for the same rewards as you, I just want to face people who are at my same level even if I get less shards or whatever. You're just assuming at this point lol
  • VinodCherryVinodCherry Member Posts: 63
    As per your logic n ask, Uncollected and Cavaliers shouldn’t be allowed to join any Gold and above tier alliances.

    They should be only in Bronze!

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,100 ★★★★★

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

    Damn you seem to really hate the fact that people keep pointing out how terrible the game mode is due do the flaws in its design. If you want to keep bullying people with lower rosters just say that instead of typing paragraphs acting all "I know what the problem actually is and I also know the solution, everyone else is wrong and only I am right"
    How is it bullying smfh I really don't see tht they reset the standing every season so everyone starts at the same place yes it sucks to face rosters filled with the newest champs at the highest ranks but tbh the majority of ppl that have those earned them now your trying to call them bullies for using them strategically what a joke
    Using them strategically? You mean using 15 maxed out 6* and then 15 1* so your rating is low enough that you face people who barely have any 6* and basically get a guaranteed win while they get nothing cause there's literally noth8ng they can do about it? That's not using them strategically, that's being an arsehole lmao why you gotta lie to yourself like that?
    No, it means that that you add champs you ban most of the time in any star level and ban them, so during pick phase you are more likely to get a champ you'd prefer. Like I always ban rintra and Penny, but only have them as 2* and 3* accordingly. I can either add these, or I can add my r3 6* max sig argon, who is a guaranteed loss both in attack and defence. Hmmm, what would I choose? And it's the case for most champs who are in the game for less then a year — I will most likely have them as 2* or 3* and won't have them at higher rarity. Wong, hulking, black cat, scorpion, gallon, sauron, irondomm, gorr, cap Britain, cap Wilson — all of those I only have at 3*, all of those were good for bgs so far. And I mostly ban these champs, as I have old champs ranked myself, so no reason to ban nick or torch for me
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Aleor said:

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

    Damn you seem to really hate the fact that people keep pointing out how terrible the game mode is due do the flaws in its design. If you want to keep bullying people with lower rosters just say that instead of typing paragraphs acting all "I know what the problem actually is and I also know the solution, everyone else is wrong and only I am right"
    How is it bullying smfh I really don't see tht they reset the standing every season so everyone starts at the same place yes it sucks to face rosters filled with the newest champs at the highest ranks but tbh the majority of ppl that have those earned them now your trying to call them bullies for using them strategically what a joke
    Using them strategically? You mean using 15 maxed out 6* and then 15 1* so your rating is low enough that you face people who barely have any 6* and basically get a guaranteed win while they get nothing cause there's literally noth8ng they can do about it? That's not using them strategically, that's being an arsehole lmao why you gotta lie to yourself like that?
    No, it means that that you add champs you ban most of the time in any star level and ban them, so during pick phase you are more likely to get a champ you'd prefer. Like I always ban rintra and Penny, but only have them as 2* and 3* accordingly. I can either add these, or I can add my r3 6* max sig argon, who is a guaranteed loss both in attack and defence. Hmmm, what would I choose? And it's the case for most champs who are in the game for less then a year — I will most likely have them as 2* or 3* and won't have them at higher rarity. Wong, hulking, black cat, scorpion, gallon, sauron, irondomm, gorr, cap Britain, cap Wilson — all of those I only have at 3*, all of those were good for bgs so far. And I mostly ban these champs, as I have old champs ranked myself, so no reason to ban nick or torch for me
    Not sure how banning champs has anything to do with the matchmaking being unfair. If you ban their 3 strongest they still have 12 more that are probably maxed out as well (I'm obviously talking about people who are either Paragon or Thronebreaker and do this to get easy matches and get all the rewards for free pretty much, not people like you)
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★

    As per your logic n ask, Uncollected and Cavaliers shouldn’t be allowed to join any Gold and above tier alliances.

    They should be only in Bronze!

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

    Right? I don't know why a lot of these older players insist on gatekeeping the game for newer people lol
  • tusharNairtusharNair Member Posts: 290 ★★
    _Pez_ said:

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

    Damn you seem to really hate the fact that people keep pointing out how terrible the game mode is due do the flaws in its design. If you want to keep bullying people with lower rosters just say that instead of typing paragraphs acting all "I know what the problem actually is and I also know the solution, everyone else is wrong and only I am right"
    So you think you should compete for the same rewards and not face higher accounts? The only fair things are to have matchmaking completely random within the same tier ignoring all ranking or separate the tiers out by progression and not let lower progressions compete for the same rewards.

    I Do feel the start of season could be made less chaotic by not starting everyone from the same spot, maybe everyone drops one tier from their final position and gets to claim all rewards up to that tier.

    There is a slight difference in rewards with price differences but the rank rewards and final placement cannot be the same for everyone if different rosters are separated by matchmaking.
    I think rewards are not same for cavalier, thronebreakers and paragon..you get same amount of tokens but value of them differs between above levels... Prices in Store for BG is not same across all level of players... So i don't understand when people say "competing for same rewards"
  • ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★

    _Pez_ said:

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

    Damn you seem to really hate the fact that people keep pointing out how terrible the game mode is due do the flaws in its design. If you want to keep bullying people with lower rosters just say that instead of typing paragraphs acting all "I know what the problem actually is and I also know the solution, everyone else is wrong and only I am right"
    So you think you should compete for the same rewards and not face higher accounts? The only fair things are to have matchmaking completely random within the same tier ignoring all ranking or separate the tiers out by progression and not let lower progressions compete for the same rewards.

    I Do feel the start of season could be made less chaotic by not starting everyone from the same spot, maybe everyone drops one tier from their final position and gets to claim all rewards up to that tier.

    There is a slight difference in rewards with price differences but the rank rewards and final placement cannot be the same for everyone if different rosters are separated by matchmaking.
    I think rewards are not same for cavalier, thronebreakers and paragon..you get same amount of tokens but value of them differs between above levels... Prices in Store for BG is not same across all level of players... So i don't understand when people say "competing for same rewards"
    You are competing for the exact amount of tokens as everyone else, how you spend them is up to you. You are more than able to hold onto them until you progress to a higher level.

    How you spend the tokens has nothing to do with the fact that we get the exact same amount. Also, we are competing for the same rank rewards, why should weaker players get an easy path there?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★

    _Pez_ said:

    Well the biggest issue with BG matchmaking isn't the reason that people are non stop posting about on forums. Many lower and less developed accounts frequently post complaints that they are being matched with people with more developed accounts than theirs.

    If we weren't all competing for the exact same rewards that are based on progression through BG, I would understand their points but since that is not the case I feel these complaints to be unrealistic.

    I feel that the reason these complaints grow is because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is it DOES take BG roster (rating or prestige) into account in matchmaking. Don't believe, switch out all your high ranked 6 stars with 4 stars and you will get significantly lower ranked opponents which proves this is taken into account for matchmaking.

    However, there is a catch. This really only seems to make a major difference in the highly populated lower tiers like bronze, silver and even to some extent gold (depending how deep into season).

    The higher tier you get into, the fewer the options, especially the fewer the amount of lesser developed rosters. Most of those I've seen complain on unbalanced matchups either don't show pictures of the active BG rosters or are in a tier that is much higher than they belong.

    If a low developed roster is primarily getting matched with other low tier rosters while in bronze, silver and gold, that almost completely goes away by high gold or platinum, as those options don't exist in high quantity anymore.

    But they get upset that they are all of a sudden to getting harder matches when in fact they only reason they got that high was because of the biggest flaw in the BG matchmaking system which is that it DOES take rating/prestige into account, to some extent setting up false expectations for lower rosters and allowing them to get higher than they belong.

    There are two fair ways to fix this issue. The most obvious way is to make this matchmaking like AW, which goes simply by AW rating and that's that. If everyone is competing for same rewards that makes the most sense.

    I can understand and respect issues with that, but then those who don't compete with the higher rosters shouldn't get same rewards as the higher rosters. So this would lead to a second possible solution. This would be have separate leagues. The separate leagues would only compete with those in that league but the higher league would have higher rewards and those in the lower league would have lower rewards.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a ton of disagrees, which is fine, but if you disagree, please explain why.

    Damn you seem to really hate the fact that people keep pointing out how terrible the game mode is due do the flaws in its design. If you want to keep bullying people with lower rosters just say that instead of typing paragraphs acting all "I know what the problem actually is and I also know the solution, everyone else is wrong and only I am right"
    So you think you should compete for the same rewards and not face higher accounts? The only fair things are to have matchmaking completely random within the same tier ignoring all ranking or separate the tiers out by progression and not let lower progressions compete for the same rewards.

    I Do feel the start of season could be made less chaotic by not starting everyone from the same spot, maybe everyone drops one tier from their final position and gets to claim all rewards up to that tier.

    There is a slight difference in rewards with price differences but the rank rewards and final placement cannot be the same for everyone if different rosters are separated by matchmaking.
    I think rewards are not same for cavalier, thronebreakers and paragon..you get same amount of tokens but value of them differs between above levels... Prices in Store for BG is not same across all level of players... So i don't understand when people say "competing for same rewards"
    You are competing for the exact amount of tokens as everyone else, how you spend them is up to you. You are more than able to hold onto them until you progress to a higher level.

    How you spend the tokens has nothing to do with the fact that we get the exact same amount. Also, we are competing for the same rank rewards, why should weaker players get an easy path there?
    Why should weaker players get an easy path there? If you had an ounce of common sense you'd realize that as time goes by (and with 7* now announced) it's going to take longer to max out your account or complete story mode, thereby they need to make the game easier and quicker to progress for newer players due to the fact that now there's a lot more content to cover. You really seem to hate newer players for whatever reason lol. Honestly, get well soon, stop no lifeing this game so hard and go touch some grass cause this is sad.
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