Mutant Cav EQ Node

Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,204 ★★★★
This mutant cav eq node combo is bare long man. By far my least favourite cav eq quest till date. I've been using apoc, and he works well don't get me wrong. The problem for me is that the mutant node doesn't purify the poisons from biohazard.

There are times when I have to intercept the opponent to gain openings, the AI being passive here just makes this very annoying. I preemptively dash in to intercept but they bait me and just sit there blocking. I hit their block once, get poisoned and lose a chunk of health.

I'm not saying that it's too difficult or unfair, heck I explored the quest without using a single item. It was just really frustrating and unenjoyable doing so. Atleast IMO. What did you guys think of the node?

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  • CyborgNinja135CyborgNinja135 Member Posts: 1,120 ★★★★
    It was fine. I'm used to not hitting block with biohazard unless I have a poison immune champ. I ran the entire quest with Omega Red, Old Man Logan and Sabretooth. Sabre was there just for the synergies with OR and OML.

    Cav EQ is something I do every month on the first 3 days and then forget about it.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,204 ★★★★

    It was fine. I'm used to not hitting block with biohazard unless I have a poison immune champ. I ran the entire quest with Omega Red, Old Man Logan and Sabretooth. Sabre was there just for the synergies with OR and OML.

    Cav EQ is something I do every month on the first 3 days and then forget about it.

    Omega Red just bypasses the nodes entirely. That's a different story.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 3,847 ★★★★★
    Biohazard is a bit annoying considering everything else plays off of bleed, especially if the AI is super passive, but on the whole it really isn’t bad. The worst every month is whatever they do for the mystic chapter. It’s always based on gaining prowess while every other class you get to increase your full damage and it’s never easy to actually gain said prowess because also unlike the other classes they aren’t permanent passives. It’s not difficult, but it is unnecessarily long simply because it doesn’t follow suit with every other class nodes.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,204 ★★★★
    edited December 2022

    It was fine. I'm used to not hitting block with biohazard unless I have a poison immune champ. I ran the entire quest with Omega Red, Old Man Logan and Sabretooth. Sabre was there just for the synergies with OR and OML.

    Cav EQ is something I do every month on the first 3 days and then forget about it.

    Omega Red just bypasses the nodes entirely. That's a different story.
    And? Even without Omega Red playing around biohazard is not that difficult. Be less aggressive and wait for good openings. As long as you don't hit their block the poison is not a problem. You can even bring Prof X + Colossus to heal from the poison. There are so many good teams you can form in the mutant class that I don't see why biohazard is a problem.
    I'm not hitting their block on purpose though, am I? It just happens sometimes when the AI is too passive. Yea sure, being patient and careful with every attack helps but it's annoying to do that for every single path when exploring. That's my point. I just found it exhausting and unenjoyable to explore the quest. I usually bang out the exploration in a few days too but I delayed doing it because of this.
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★
    Parry.
  • Giantwalrus56Giantwalrus56 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
    I really like it. Gives me a chance to use white mags
  • TitoBandito187TitoBandito187 Member Posts: 2,072 ★★★★
    Cable is also good for this, especially with apoc synergy just racking up degens.

    I know Sauron and Toad are kinda new, but they added some poison immunity to the Mutant class too.

    Most mutants don't need to hit into block at all - heavy spam with colossus or magneto is pretty easy stuff.

    Kitty just phases most of the damage, but you do need to be careful with not racking up too many poisons to be safe. Namor is another great option.

    There's always a handful of champs that excel at the node buffs, and many more that take advantage of them pretty well. If need be though, just use the best counter nad play it straight up - a robot will do just fine.

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  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,204 ★★★★

    Cable is also good for this, especially with apoc synergy just racking up degens.

    I know Sauron and Toad are kinda new, but they added some poison immunity to the Mutant class too.

    Most mutants don't need to hit into block at all - heavy spam with colossus or magneto is pretty easy stuff.

    Kitty just phases most of the damage, but you do need to be careful with not racking up too many poisons to be safe. Namor is another great option.

    There's always a handful of champs that excel at the node buffs, and many more that take advantage of them pretty well. If need be though, just use the best counter nad play it straight up - a robot will do just fine.

    My cable is only 5* r3, my toad is at 5* r1, I don't have Colossus, Omega Red, Sauron or (Either) Magneto as 5/6*s, my namor isn't max sig, and my 6* kitty isn't awakened. Not a favourable node for my roster tbh. I ended up using Apoc and played it slow. Also used nimrod for a few fights who takes ages aswell (even at 6* r3).
  • Sw0rdMasterSw0rdMaster Member Posts: 1,793 ★★★★
    I used namor heavily for this
  • TitoBandito187TitoBandito187 Member Posts: 2,072 ★★★★

    Cable is also good for this, especially with apoc synergy just racking up degens.

    I know Sauron and Toad are kinda new, but they added some poison immunity to the Mutant class too.

    Most mutants don't need to hit into block at all - heavy spam with colossus or magneto is pretty easy stuff.

    Kitty just phases most of the damage, but you do need to be careful with not racking up too many poisons to be safe. Namor is another great option.

    There's always a handful of champs that excel at the node buffs, and many more that take advantage of them pretty well. If need be though, just use the best counter nad play it straight up - a robot will do just fine.

    My cable is only 5* r3, my toad is at 5* r1, I don't have Colossus, Omega Red, Sauron or (Either) Magneto as 5/6*s, my namor isn't max sig, and my 6* kitty isn't awakened. Not a favourable node for my roster tbh. I ended up using Apoc and played it slow. Also used nimrod for a few fights who takes ages aswell (even at 6* r3).
    Maybe share your roster for some additional options. If they aren't there though, gonna have to do some strategic rank ups if this is the content you want to prioritize.

    No offense - don't take this the wrong way because it's not directed at you. But, this is the downside of rapid progression.

    When I first got CAV, I was still mostly using 4* for a lot of the content (5* were still fairly slow to aquire and 6* were a blip on the radar). Sometimes I had to accept I couldn't always clear, let alone explore CAV eq. But I pushed with my 4* and 5* R3 and got the job sone as much as I could, knowing full well it wasnt always possible with my roster at the time.

    Younger accounts can now seemingly smash content for titles with 6* almost immediately, but those same rosters might not be able to handle specific nodes/fights/paths in CAV eq or later acts without more specific counters, better understanding of interactions and long term acquired skills.

    It will get better/easier over time, if you stick it out.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,204 ★★★★
    edited December 2022

    Cable is also good for this, especially with apoc synergy just racking up degens.

    I know Sauron and Toad are kinda new, but they added some poison immunity to the Mutant class too.

    Most mutants don't need to hit into block at all - heavy spam with colossus or magneto is pretty easy stuff.

    Kitty just phases most of the damage, but you do need to be careful with not racking up too many poisons to be safe. Namor is another great option.

    There's always a handful of champs that excel at the node buffs, and many more that take advantage of them pretty well. If need be though, just use the best counter nad play it straight up - a robot will do just fine.

    My cable is only 5* r3, my toad is at 5* r1, I don't have Colossus, Omega Red, Sauron or (Either) Magneto as 5/6*s, my namor isn't max sig, and my 6* kitty isn't awakened. Not a favourable node for my roster tbh. I ended up using Apoc and played it slow. Also used nimrod for a few fights who takes ages aswell (even at 6* r3).
    Maybe share your roster for some additional options. If they aren't there though, gonna have to do some strategic rank ups if this is the content you want to prioritize.

    No offense - don't take this the wrong way because it's not directed at you. But, this is the downside of rapid progression.

    When I first got CAV, I was still mostly using 4* for a lot of the content (5* were still fairly slow to aquire and 6* were a blip on the radar). Sometimes I had to accept I couldn't always clear, let alone explore CAV eq. But I pushed with my 4* and 5* R3 and got the job sone as much as I could, knowing full well it wasnt always possible with my roster at the time.

    Younger accounts can now seemingly smash content for titles with 6* almost immediately, but those same rosters might not be able to handle specific nodes/fights/paths in CAV eq or later acts without more specific counters, better understanding of interactions and long term acquired skills.

    It will get better/easier over time, if you stick it out.
    Here's my roster- https://imgur.com/a/ufYcThk

    I've already explored this chapter btw, I'll probably finish exploring the rest within the week aswell. Still, I'd love to hear some thoughts and rank up advice.

    I do have some rank ups planned. Notably 2 new 6* r3s (skill and science). Is it better I go for that or a bunch of 5* rank ups?
  • mgj0630mgj0630 Member Posts: 1,096 ★★★★

    Cable is also good for this, especially with apoc synergy just racking up degens.

    I know Sauron and Toad are kinda new, but they added some poison immunity to the Mutant class too.

    Most mutants don't need to hit into block at all - heavy spam with colossus or magneto is pretty easy stuff.

    Kitty just phases most of the damage, but you do need to be careful with not racking up too many poisons to be safe. Namor is another great option.

    There's always a handful of champs that excel at the node buffs, and many more that take advantage of them pretty well. If need be though, just use the best counter nad play it straight up - a robot will do just fine.

    My cable is only 5* r3, my toad is at 5* r1, I don't have Colossus, Omega Red, Sauron or (Either) Magneto as 5/6*s, my namor isn't max sig, and my 6* kitty isn't awakened. Not a favourable node for my roster tbh. I ended up using Apoc and played it slow. Also used nimrod for a few fights who takes ages aswell (even at 6* r3).
    Maybe share your roster for some additional options. If they aren't there though, gonna have to do some strategic rank ups if this is the content you want to prioritize.

    No offense - don't take this the wrong way because it's not directed at you. But, this is the downside of rapid progression.

    When I first got CAV, I was still mostly using 4* for a lot of the content (5* were still fairly slow to aquire and 6* were a blip on the radar). Sometimes I had to accept I couldn't always clear, let alone explore CAV eq. But I pushed with my 4* and 5* R3 and got the job sone as much as I could, knowing full well it wasnt always possible with my roster at the time.

    Younger accounts can now seemingly smash content for titles with 6* almost immediately, but those same rosters might not be able to handle specific nodes/fights/paths in CAV eq or later acts without more specific counters, better understanding of interactions and long term acquired skills.

    It will get better/easier over time, if you stick it out.
    Here's my roster- https://imgur.com/a/ufYcThk

    I've already explored this chapter btw, I'll probably finish exploring the rest within the week aswell. Still, I'd love to hear some thoughts and rank up advice.

    I do have some rank ups planned. Notably 2 new 6* r3s (skill and science). Is it better I go for that or a bunch of 5* rank ups?
    There's obviously not an exact science to this, but if it's of any value, I had about 45 5* 5/65 champs before I turned all my attention to 6* champs.

    That's not to say you shouldn't rank 6* at the same time. Obviously if you pull a 6* Doom, you rank him up as quickly as possible. That said, if you don't have a 6* champ who provides a niche capability, and you only have like 20 5* 5/65 champs, it's probably still worth investing in additional 5*.

    I suppose I'd put it this way....

    Next month, attempt to explore Cav EQ WITHOUT 6* champs. If you can do that without any real struggle, your 5* roster is deep enough. If you can't, it might be a good idea to rank up some of those champs to fill gaps you haven't yet filled with 6* champs.

    Good luck!
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,111 ★★★★★
    I used CGR and Nimrod for most of it unless they were metal, then, you know.
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,204 ★★★★
    mgj0630 said:

    Cable is also good for this, especially with apoc synergy just racking up degens.

    I know Sauron and Toad are kinda new, but they added some poison immunity to the Mutant class too.

    Most mutants don't need to hit into block at all - heavy spam with colossus or magneto is pretty easy stuff.

    Kitty just phases most of the damage, but you do need to be careful with not racking up too many poisons to be safe. Namor is another great option.

    There's always a handful of champs that excel at the node buffs, and many more that take advantage of them pretty well. If need be though, just use the best counter nad play it straight up - a robot will do just fine.

    My cable is only 5* r3, my toad is at 5* r1, I don't have Colossus, Omega Red, Sauron or (Either) Magneto as 5/6*s, my namor isn't max sig, and my 6* kitty isn't awakened. Not a favourable node for my roster tbh. I ended up using Apoc and played it slow. Also used nimrod for a few fights who takes ages aswell (even at 6* r3).
    Maybe share your roster for some additional options. If they aren't there though, gonna have to do some strategic rank ups if this is the content you want to prioritize.

    No offense - don't take this the wrong way because it's not directed at you. But, this is the downside of rapid progression.

    When I first got CAV, I was still mostly using 4* for a lot of the content (5* were still fairly slow to aquire and 6* were a blip on the radar). Sometimes I had to accept I couldn't always clear, let alone explore CAV eq. But I pushed with my 4* and 5* R3 and got the job sone as much as I could, knowing full well it wasnt always possible with my roster at the time.

    Younger accounts can now seemingly smash content for titles with 6* almost immediately, but those same rosters might not be able to handle specific nodes/fights/paths in CAV eq or later acts without more specific counters, better understanding of interactions and long term acquired skills.

    It will get better/easier over time, if you stick it out.
    Here's my roster- https://imgur.com/a/ufYcThk

    I've already explored this chapter btw, I'll probably finish exploring the rest within the week aswell. Still, I'd love to hear some thoughts and rank up advice.

    I do have some rank ups planned. Notably 2 new 6* r3s (skill and science). Is it better I go for that or a bunch of 5* rank ups?
    There's obviously not an exact science to this, but if it's of any value, I had about 45 5* 5/65 champs before I turned all my attention to 6* champs.

    That's not to say you shouldn't rank 6* at the same time. Obviously if you pull a 6* Doom, you rank him up as quickly as possible. That said, if you don't have a 6* champ who provides a niche capability, and you only have like 20 5* 5/65 champs, it's probably still worth investing in additional 5*.

    I suppose I'd put it this way....

    Next month, attempt to explore Cav EQ WITHOUT 6* champs. If you can do that without any real struggle, your 5* roster is deep enough. If you can't, it might be a good idea to rank up some of those champs to fill gaps you haven't yet filled with 6* champs.

    Good luck!
    I've been primarily using my r5 5*s for the majority of cav eq. I usually take the mutant quest paths with apoc, mystic quest paths with doom, science quest paths with scorpion, cosmic quest paths with angela and skill quest paths with agent venom. Tech is the only class where I use a 6* for the path.

    That said, I am missing some niche utility and depth, I agree. I am going to rank up my 6* Prof X for reverse control immunity and 6* black cat for DAA reduction utility. Maybe I'll do some 5* utility rank ups after that. Thanks for the advice.
  • IamGrO_otIamGrO_ot Member Posts: 172 ★★
    My team:


    OR mvp, Doom for Groot boss.

    Easiest Cav EQ in MCOC history.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,111 ★★★★★
    Mojo absolutely destroys the groot boss.

    Clairvoyant for the mystic path (I have dooms, but they bore me)
    Red mag for the mutant path.
    Red hulk is surprisingly good for the science path (I have torches too)
    Warlock wrecks the tech path
    CGR for cosmic
    NF for the skill, massacre works really well too.

    Apart from the science path with biohazard you can pretty much play well and do the whole thing with anyone half decent, no need for class restrictions but they do reward having good options.
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★
    Only problem with using mags and domino is that their AA reduction can stop the furies.
  • TitoBandito187TitoBandito187 Member Posts: 2,072 ★★★★
    mgj0630 said:

    Cable is also good for this, especially with apoc synergy just racking up degens.

    I know Sauron and Toad are kinda new, but they added some poison immunity to the Mutant class too.

    Most mutants don't need to hit into block at all - heavy spam with colossus or magneto is pretty easy stuff.

    Kitty just phases most of the damage, but you do need to be careful with not racking up too many poisons to be safe. Namor is another great option.

    There's always a handful of champs that excel at the node buffs, and many more that take advantage of them pretty well. If need be though, just use the best counter nad play it straight up - a robot will do just fine.

    My cable is only 5* r3, my toad is at 5* r1, I don't have Colossus, Omega Red, Sauron or (Either) Magneto as 5/6*s, my namor isn't max sig, and my 6* kitty isn't awakened. Not a favourable node for my roster tbh. I ended up using Apoc and played it slow. Also used nimrod for a few fights who takes ages aswell (even at 6* r3).
    Maybe share your roster for some additional options. If they aren't there though, gonna have to do some strategic rank ups if this is the content you want to prioritize.

    No offense - don't take this the wrong way because it's not directed at you. But, this is the downside of rapid progression.

    When I first got CAV, I was still mostly using 4* for a lot of the content (5* were still fairly slow to aquire and 6* were a blip on the radar). Sometimes I had to accept I couldn't always clear, let alone explore CAV eq. But I pushed with my 4* and 5* R3 and got the job sone as much as I could, knowing full well it wasnt always possible with my roster at the time.

    Younger accounts can now seemingly smash content for titles with 6* almost immediately, but those same rosters might not be able to handle specific nodes/fights/paths in CAV eq or later acts without more specific counters, better understanding of interactions and long term acquired skills.

    It will get better/easier over time, if you stick it out.
    Here's my roster- https://imgur.com/a/ufYcThk

    I've already explored this chapter btw, I'll probably finish exploring the rest within the week aswell. Still, I'd love to hear some thoughts and rank up advice.

    I do have some rank ups planned. Notably 2 new 6* r3s (skill and science). Is it better I go for that or a bunch of 5* rank ups?
    There's obviously not an exact science to this, but if it's of any value, I had about 45 5* 5/65 champs before I turned all my attention to 6* champs.

    That's not to say you shouldn't rank 6* at the same time. Obviously if you pull a 6* Doom, you rank him up as quickly as possible. That said, if you don't have a 6* champ who provides a niche capability, and you only have like 20 5* 5/65 champs, it's probably still worth investing in additional 5*.

    I suppose I'd put it this way....

    Next month, attempt to explore Cav EQ WITHOUT 6* champs. If you can do that without any real struggle, your 5* roster is deep enough. If you can't, it might be a good idea to rank up some of those champs to fill gaps you haven't yet filled with 6* champs.

    Good luck!
    This! Although I wouldn't build my 5* roster that big now if 6* are coming in. I still rank 5 some 5*, bit only those I don't have and only those that do something unique, or very well (AA, Magneto, Warlock, torch, etc.). If they are raw damage, skip them because damage won't get you far if you can't live long enough to take advantage of it).

    OP has a very decent roster, but my view is that they have mid-ranked Many champs instead of focusing on some that have specific functionality. I would focus on strategic rankups - maybe 2-3 champs at a time, each in a different class, that have a niche utility that comes in handy for cav eq and/or your next major content.

    For example (and I don't see them in your roster), but a champ like warlock or colossus have 3 immunities - great for many paths and matchups. Nimrod is excellent, but who's your coldsnap/incinerate counter? What's your best havok counter if nimrod is down and/or it's on an incinerate node or something like that.

    Some of your top champs (kitty /NF) are huge damage dealers, but can't handle DOT well (kitty will negate a lot when you do finally dupe her though). But you also have some great utility where they will shine.

    For this path, Apoc is definitely king. Nimrod and ghost should handle anything he might struggle with. You've got other bleed immune/friendly champs too, but of course not hitting into block is the main goal of they're not duel immune.

    You're on the right track, just going to take more time to round out the roster, so focus on the utilities that you're needing/wanting over raw damage champs if you can.
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