Bg matchmaking nightmare

JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,283 ★★★★
edited February 2023 in Bugs and Known Issues
I know I’m beating a dead horse but is kabam going to do anything different with battleground matchmaking? It’s hard not to get frustrated when I’m matching a similar account 1/10 times, and most opponents have 2-3.5k more prestige than me and a way more developed entire deck.

I’ve never had a problem getting to gc with matchmaking until this season, and It’s actually comical how easy the first few fights are once I reached gc in the past.

I thought they fixed matchmaking so the whale accounts can’t beat on smaller ones, but that’s not happening in my experience.
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  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,283 ★★★★
    Ex.



    Oh and kabam decided to add a little spice in this match and auto lose me before entering the fight. Very fun very cool



  • PATSYWALKERPATSYWALKER Member Posts: 5
    My rating is 1.2 millions but the game keep matching me with 3-4 millions. I can’t even finish go above silver now in this season😂
  • XFREEDOMXXFREEDOMX Member Posts: 525 ★★★
    Hey gang! Kabamblah blah here! I would suggest you to “Git gud”!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,980 ★★★★★
    Not once has any Kabam representative said that.
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    edited February 2023
    I believe they can set the match making to match players with similar roster and progression.
    1. Priority 1
      Like Progression title,
      -eg thronebreaker vs thronebreaker.


    2. Priority 2
      Ranks and Rarity of their top 30 champions,
      15x 6star 3/45
      2x 6star 4/55
      3x 6star 2/35
      10x 5 star 5/56

    3. Priority 3
      Account age
      3yr old thronebreaker vs 3 yr old thronebreaker


    I know it can take longer to match.

    But they can also set two match making modes
    • First 'Progression based Queue'
    • where matchmaking follows a system to match players of similar progression.
    • Second 'Open Queue'
      where you match up with whoever is available and so you dont have to wait.
    It gives both progressing player and top End game players a challenge they can complete without having to waste time.
    Such a system in very common in First person shooter games like Counterstrike, Valorant, PUBG, COD, Apex Legends and others.

    I hope there will be smoother experience in next season without bugs and refined matchmaking.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    noclutch said:

    I believe they can set the match making to match players with similar roster and progression.

    1. Priority 1
      Like Progression title,
      -eg thronebreaker vs thronebreaker.


    2. Priority 2
      Ranks and Rarity of their top 30 champions,
      15x 6star 3/45
      2x 6star 4/55
      3x 6star 2/35
      10x 5 star 5/56

    3. Priority 3
      Account age
      3yr old thronebreaker vs 3 yr old thronebreaker


    I know it can take longer to match.

    But they can also set two match making modes

    First 'Progression based Queue' where matchmaking follows a system to match players of similar progression.
    Second 'Open Queue' where you match up with whoever is available and so you dont have to wait.

    It gives both progressing player and top End game players a challenge they can complete without having to waste time.
    Such a system in very common in First person shooter games like Counterstrike, Valorant, PUBG, COD, Apex Legends and others.

    I hope there will be smoother experience in next season without bugs and refined matchmaking.
    This is not a 1st person shooter...
    This is a game based on champs, ranks, signature lvl...why should lower accounts get easy matches to climb up in a competition?
    The only solution would be to have another battle ground like in arenas for lower accounts for lower prizes..
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    edited February 2023
    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
    The problem is Endgame accounts decimate the progressing accounts, similar progress based matchmaking can improve the situation we have right now.

    BGs do have different rewards in store for different progressions.
    And the moment it is the only game mode thats close to a pvp experience, I dont want it to be restrictive.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 2,018 ★★★★★

    My rating is 1.2 millions but the game keep matching me with 3-4 millions. I can’t even finish go above silver now in this season😂

    Why, exactly, do you deserve to earn wins while also avoiding the best players in your tier?
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    noclutch said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
    The problem is Endgame accounts decimate the progressing accounts, similar progress based matchmaking can improve the situation we have right now.

    BGs do have different rewards in store for different progressions.
    And the moment it is the only game mode thats close to a pvp experience, I dont want it to be restrictive.
    Its not different rewards cause u can keep the currency and spend it once u progress...
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,980 ★★★★★
    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
    The problem is Endgame accounts decimate the progressing accounts, similar progress based matchmaking can improve the situation we have right now.

    BGs do have different rewards in store for different progressions.
    And the moment it is the only game mode thats close to a pvp experience, I dont want it to be restrictive.
    Its not different rewards cause u can keep the currency and spend it once u progress...
    I doubt anyone would be sitting on it that long.
  • ChiliDogChiliDog Member Posts: 911 ★★★
    edited February 2023
    With a new progression based, either rewards would suffer and/or you get an even different worse store. Also the 28 day event would need reduced solo rewards as well as season 28 day event ranked rewards for those tiers...or a boost for the top players.

    I'm glad you want to get to the nfl playoffs (GC) by playing peewee teams, but it shouldn't work that way. If you want to play other peewee teams, enjoy your 4 or 5* shard rewards.

    I am horrible and want to play the best and worst in the tier I am in. Silver2, right now I believe. That's it..no other algorithms. .The only issue then is the few pricks that win 2 and lose 2 to not go up and just get 48 hour objectives until near end of the season.

    Account size is horrible also, punished for raising all those 2 to 4 stars or a huge stack of 6r1....yeah that makes sense.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    edited February 2023

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
    The problem is Endgame accounts decimate the progressing accounts, similar progress based matchmaking can improve the situation we have right now.

    BGs do have different rewards in store for different progressions.
    And the moment it is the only game mode thats close to a pvp experience, I dont want it to be restrictive.
    Its not different rewards cause u can keep the currency and spend it once u progress...
    I doubt anyone would be sitting on it that long.
    U doubt they might keep it.. fair enough; but its a dount, being a currency with an extreme high limit is a fact.
    Lets imagine u got a dollar.. and u know the store closest to you sells a can of coke for 1 dollar.. and the one 3 blocks away sells 2 for 1 dollar... Well the dollar u had didn't lose any value...its your choice to decide how to spend it
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,980 ★★★★★
    Coppin said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
    The problem is Endgame accounts decimate the progressing accounts, similar progress based matchmaking can improve the situation we have right now.

    BGs do have different rewards in store for different progressions.
    And the moment it is the only game mode thats close to a pvp experience, I dont want it to be restrictive.
    Its not different rewards cause u can keep the currency and spend it once u progress...
    I doubt anyone would be sitting on it that long.
    U doubt they moght keep it.. fair enough; but its a dount, being a currency with an extreme high limit is a fact.
    Typically, the people who save and hoard have a large enough Roster and are accumulated enough to have that luxury. Their wants and needs are more acute. They have "enough" Champs. They have "enough" of most Mats. They're saving for specific needs. There are outliers to this, people who do "unboxing" type content, and such. Generally, people are spending the Tokens and earning more as they go along.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★

    Coppin said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
    The problem is Endgame accounts decimate the progressing accounts, similar progress based matchmaking can improve the situation we have right now.

    BGs do have different rewards in store for different progressions.
    And the moment it is the only game mode thats close to a pvp experience, I dont want it to be restrictive.
    Its not different rewards cause u can keep the currency and spend it once u progress...
    I doubt anyone would be sitting on it that long.
    U doubt they moght keep it.. fair enough; but its a dount, being a currency with an extreme high limit is a fact.
    Typically, the people who save and hoard have a large enough Roster and are accumulated enough to have that luxury. Their wants and needs are more acute. They have "enough" Champs. They have "enough" of most Mats. They're saving for specific needs. There are outliers to this, people who do "unboxing" type content, and such. Generally, people are spending the Tokens and earning more as they go along.
    We are not discussing resource management, a token is a token.. the reward is the same regardless of the cost of the market..
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,980 ★★★★★
    Coppin said:

    Coppin said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    Coppin said:

    noclutch said:

    In current matchmaking, Lower accounts gets wiped off against end game accounts.
    Its feels like handing them wins, when one cant compete in.

    Would you prefer only end game accounts competing in BGs and lesser number of progressing players participating in them?
    I hope not.
    My idea was to refine matchmaking in way that encourages more players to participate in.

    Comparison to fps games was to show a better matchmaking system where lower accounts can compete with players of similar progression not the kind of gameplay they have.

    Progression based matchmaking seems a better matchmaking system. Today a thronebreaker with no rank 4 6stars can get matched against fully stacked roster of rank 4 6stars. Clearly it needs a rework/refinement.

    You are only seeing 1 side.. because right now there are many higher accounts facing each other and struggling to get out of Silver...
    And why would we not prefer to have a higher account competition?.. Arenas are the same.. u got a baby arena with baby prices and then the 6* feat and Basic with point modifiers and "better rewards" (not really that much better but still)...
    They should have done BGs only for TB+... Cavs and UC should spend their energy and units progressing not buying every single shard in the BG store...
    The problem is Endgame accounts decimate the progressing accounts, similar progress based matchmaking can improve the situation we have right now.

    BGs do have different rewards in store for different progressions.
    And the moment it is the only game mode thats close to a pvp experience, I dont want it to be restrictive.
    Its not different rewards cause u can keep the currency and spend it once u progress...
    I doubt anyone would be sitting on it that long.
    U doubt they moght keep it.. fair enough; but its a dount, being a currency with an extreme high limit is a fact.
    Typically, the people who save and hoard have a large enough Roster and are accumulated enough to have that luxury. Their wants and needs are more acute. They have "enough" Champs. They have "enough" of most Mats. They're saving for specific needs. There are outliers to this, people who do "unboxing" type content, and such. Generally, people are spending the Tokens and earning more as they go along.
    We are not discussing resource management, a token is a token.. the reward is the same regardless of the cost of the market..
    That's the problem. A Token is a Token, but what that's worth changes depending on what availability a Player has in the Store.
  • RenaxqqRenaxqq Member Posts: 1,718 ★★★★★
    Who's Kabam Spice?
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