A Rare Thumbs up for Kabam

GeneralMerce

Lets all take a beat on bashing Kabam for making this 7* celebration a "High progression only" event, because, well... it should be. It seems like everyone thinks they are entitled to a prized 7* no matter your progression? We need to view it through the lens of 6*s. The availability of 6* has completely changed to landscape of the contest. The Collector, a fight created for 4*s, is now fought with r5 5* and r2 6*. The Grandmaster, a fight designed for r5 5* and r2 6*s is now being fought with R4s. Kabam recognized this and we all need to as well, 7*s will absolutely BREAK the game for anyone less than ACT 8 progression level. The best and biggest players don't have more than 5 6* R5s, and the 7* is essentially an R5. So why should everyone have access to it at launch and break the game?

Keep up the grind and you too will get yours!

Mackey

Agreed. What I think they deserve a bash about is that it's essentially a money spending event to go along with all the other money spending events we get year round, should have had some extra ways in there to get points for those who only able to get like 1 7* champ.

Boogaloogler

It's not though. It's a "high progression, whale spender only" event. Anyone pretending otherwise can't do simple arithmetic.

Colinwhitworth69

Boogaloogler said:

It's not though. It's a "high progression, whale spender only" event. Anyone pretending otherwise can't do simple arithmetic.

Agreed. Whales are paying the way for everyone else to play a complicated game with new champs and content every month, and their spending supports what I imagine are dozens of jobs needed to develop and deliver this game.

Arithmetic, indeed.

tntsl

I think the problem is that Kabam pitched this 'event' as if it were something all players should celebrate. It was pitched as the biggest champion crystal opening event ever. Since the event is actually aimed at only a portion of the players, it should not have been pitched by Kabam as a grand celebration for everyone.

TyEdge

Mackey said:

Agreed. What I think they deserve a bash about is that it's essentially a money spending event to go along with all the other money spending events we get year round, should have had some extra ways in there to get points for those who only able to get like 1 7* champ.

I’m more than happy to talk trash about the overlords but I haven’t spent a dime and there’s a good chance I get my third 5-star relic and first 6-star relic. I’ve gone from 25,000ish shards to having a third 7-star and I’ll get a fourth if I pull a few paragon crystals from shooting stars.

The launch plus the quest along with 200-unit Paragon crystals is a pretty good way to make this viable for f2p. They structured the rewards very well.

Edit: I’ll take it all back in two hours if the Shooting Stars rewards stink. My understanding is that they do not.

BowTieJohn

GeneralMerce said:

Lets all take a beat on bashing Kabam for making this 7* celebration a "High progression only" event, because, well... it should be. It seems like everyone thinks they are entitled to a prized 7* no matter your progression? We need to view it through the lens of 6*s. The availability of 6* has completely changed to landscape of the contest. The Collector, a fight created for 4*s, is now fought with r5 5* and r2 6*. The Grandmaster, a fight designed for r5 5* and r2 6*s is now being fought with R4s. Kabam recognized this and we all need to as well, 7*s will absolutely BREAK the game for anyone less than ACT 8 progression level. The best and biggest players don't have more than 5 6* R5s, and the 7* is essentially an R5. So why should everyone have access to it at launch and break the game?

Keep up the grind and you too will get yours!

There are things like the Apothecary and such which have received the due critique, but you have a good point there must be something which you have to actually earn and not just a participation trophy. I'd like a 7*, but I know with time I eventually will open my first 7* and for now I will work hard plodding through the game enjoying it at my own pace.

IvarTheBoneless

TyEdge said:

Mackey said:

Agreed. What I think they deserve a bash about is that it's essentially a money spending event to go along with all the other money spending events we get year round, should have had some extra ways in there to get points for those who only able to get like 1 7* champ.

I’m more than happy to talk trash about the overlords but I haven’t spent a dime and there’s a good chance I get my third 5-star relic and first 6-star relic. I’ve gone from 25,000ish shards to having a third 7-star and I’ll get a fourth if I pull a few paragon crystals from shooting stars.

The launch plus the quest along with 200-unit Paragon crystals is a pretty good way to make this viable for f2p. They structured the rewards very well.

Edit: I’ll take it all back in two hours if the Shooting Stars rewards stink. My understanding is that they do not.

So you had a lot of units and bought a lot of paragon crystals? That's the only way you could get a 4th 7 star without spending a dime.

I'm not complaining tho, with minimal unit spend I'm about to get my first full t6cc selector which brings me very close to a 2nd r5. This plus the 7500 7 star shards I got from solo and alliance event are nice rewards. There are 7500 more in there + 2 7 star crystals but for that you need to spend big time (cash or units).

noclutch

You are missing the part where only whales can clear all the milestones,
Non whales will have to sit and watch them strengthen their already beefed up roster.

Kabam will surely have good business this month. No doubt.
Its just disappointing for us who cant break the paywall.

Kerneas

I opened 1 7* crystal and 10 Paragon crystals with my units. That got me 25% of another 7*. Even from my laid back f2p perspective it isn't too bad of an event.

noclutch

Kerneas said:

I opened 1 7* crystal and 10 Paragon crystals with my units. That got me 25% of another 7*. Even from my laid back f2p perspective it isn't too bad of an event.

No one complains for participation.
Complain here is about not being able to complete it without spending or uniting through.

AMS94

Any event that involves spending should never have the word "celebration" in it
It's not exactly a celebration

Spending is necessary for the game, but don't package it as something that it's not

Also it's essentially very similar to the gifting event
So we should've received some prior info about the alliance participation lock-in periods so that players could've been better prepared for it
Many players have lost their rewards due to no fault of their own

With AW season, BG season & these events, all starting & ending at different timeframes but still requiring players to be in the alliance for a specified time, it gets close to impossible to switch alliances without losing on some rewards
Specially in such cases where players didn't have the requisite info to be prepared for it

And then there is the bug of missing Paragon Crystals which is not being addressed......neither on the forums nor in replies to support mails

It's fine to design spending based events, but this is not the way to do it

Magrailothos

noclutch said:

You are missing the part where only whales can clear all the milestones,
Non whales will have to sit and watch them strengthen their already beefed up roster.

Kabam will surely have good business this month. No doubt.
Its just disappointing for us who cant break the paywall.

I disagree. I'm essentially FTP; and I love playing this game, but it's definitely not people like me that make it a financially viable game.

GeneralMerce

I posted this and want to point out, I am paragon and free to play. I spent 2000units and opened 1 7* with 10K shards. I recently joined my alliance, but once I get the alliance rewards i will be able to open my second 7* and enough paragon crystals to qualify for a T6CC selector. So this event gave me a few rolls at a 7*, 1 T6CC, 1 T6B and 1 T3A all at the cost of ~2200 net units. that's not "whaling out" and certainly still very positive experience overall

klobberintyme

GeneralMerce said:

I posted this and want to point out, I am paragon and free to play. I spent 2000units and opened 1 7* with 10K shards. I recently joined my alliance, but once I get the alliance rewards i will be able to open my second 7* and enough paragon crystals to qualify for a T6CC selector. So this event gave me a few rolls at a 7*, 1 T6CC, 1 T6B and 1 T3A all at the cost of ~2200 net units. that's not "whaling out" and certainly still very positive experience overall

There are those who look around and say Why Do They Get Everything, and there are those who look inward and say I Like What I Got.

I liked what i got, and it sounds like you did too. Can't please everyone, though it's nice to look like you're trying every once in a while kabam.

Ayden_noah1

This game can't survive on good will from FTP only. I'm a FTP and will enjoy this event for what it is. My alliance most likely won't qualify for most of the good rewards but I expected as much since we don't have big spenders. I got my 2 7 stars at the discounted rate (10k each) and got lucky with the paragon crytals to get one more. So now I have 3 7 stars in total (dragonman, mysterio and spidergwen). I will need to grind the arena for more units to get the July 4th unit deals but that's what is required. Keep the whales happy so I can play this game ads free. I play a few other phone games and trust me I hate having to watch ads after each level I complete. I don't want to see ads after each fight. So I'm happy to see the Whales get a head start so they can keep this game going. Anyone that thinks FTP accounts should be near the Whales account is delusional, Whales needs to be fed. This event will make Kabam lots of money so I can keep playing this game. Not sure what summoners are expecting but this is exactly what I thought it would be.

Vegeta9001

Colinwhitworth69 said:

Boogaloogler said:

It's not though. It's a "high progression, whale spender only" event. Anyone pretending otherwise can't do simple arithmetic.

Agreed. Whales are paying the way for everyone else to play a complicated game with new champs and content every month, and their spending supports what I imagine are dozens of jobs needed to develop and deliver this game.

Arithmetic, indeed.

With the state the games in and how long it's took to still not fix input issues, and the network issues further declining. I'd say they could use some more support.

Searmenis

Whales celebration event, indeed, any way you can look at it. You want some good rewards and not only the 1% paragon crystals? Buy units. You already have units saved for July 4th? Use them, and when July 4th comes, buy units. A lose/lose situation.

Mackey

TyEdge said:

Mackey said:

Agreed. What I think they deserve a bash about is that it's essentially a money spending event to go along with all the other money spending events we get year round, should have had some extra ways in there to get points for those who only able to get like 1 7* champ.

The launch plus the quest along with 200-unit Paragon crystals is a pretty good way to make this viable for f2p. They structured the rewards very well.

Ah but units are supposed to be for consumables 😂😂