Lots of Rintrah bugs added to Trello

Noob_Master69

So it seems that yesterday quite a few bugs regarding Rintrah have been added to the Trello board. Rintrah is a popular champ so I figured it'd be worth mentioning here too so that less people are blindsided when something changes. Also as an added note, the way the bugs are listed here are a lot more in depth and detailed than the older ones on Trello, so it does seem that Kabam is trying to improve. But here ya go:

Ashacekar

Rintrah Nerf Incoming.

AverageDesi

"Improved neutralize does not have listed potency"???

It's written very clearly that the potency is 200%

AverageDesi

Ashacekar said:

Rintrah Nerf Incoming.

You mean buff

Noob_Master69

AverageDesi said:

"Improved neutralize does not have listed potency"???

It's written very clearly that the potency is 200%

It's saying there is no listed "chance"
Normally he has a 60% chance of placing a Neutralize but against Cosmic champs this changes, no number is given to the chance so it's expected to be 100% but in reality it's 120% chance. Meaning that even when his ability accuracy is reduced by 15% he still has over a 100% chance for it to proc

The potency of the Neutralize is how much it reduces opponent buff ability accuracy, the chance is the likelihood of there being a Neutralize in the first place

Furrymoosen

AverageDesi said:

"Improved neutralize does not have listed potency"???

It's written very clearly that the potency is 200%

They said chance of inflicting neutralize, not potency. The chance for the unimproved is 60%, so I think the bug they are talking about is that improved should be listed with a 100% potency but in game it is doubling to 120%, following suit with the potency of neutralize doubling as well.

BeastDad

Sounds like a lot of things that are pro player are not working.

AverageDesi

Noob_Master69 said:

AverageDesi said:

"Improved neutralize does not have listed potency"???

It's written very clearly that the potency is 200%

It's saying there is no listed "chance"
Normally he has a 60% chance of placing a Neutralize but against Cosmic champs this changes, no number is given to the chance so it's expected to be 100% but in reality it's 120% chance. Meaning that even when his ability accuracy is reduced by 15% he still has over a 100% chance for it to proc

The potency of the Neutralize is how much it reduces opponent buff ability accuracy, the chance is the likelihood of there being a Neutralize in the first place

Ahhh that thing. I always assumed everything just doubled . 3s to 6s, 100% to 200% and 60% to 120%

Demonzfyre

BeastDad said:

Sounds like a lot of things that are pro player are not working.

Isn't that normally how bugs work?

Vergeman78

Demonzfyre said:

BeastDad said:

Sounds like a lot of things that are pro player are not working.

Isn't that normally how bugs work?

No, the pro player ones never have to be listed on Trello. They get fixed immediately

Demonzfyre

Vergeman78 said:

Demonzfyre said:

BeastDad said:

Sounds like a lot of things that are pro player are not working.

Isn't that normally how bugs work?

No, the pro player ones never have to be listed on Trello. They get fixed immediately

What?

AverageDesi

Vergeman78 said:

Demonzfyre said:

BeastDad said:

Sounds like a lot of things that are pro player are not working.

Isn't that normally how bugs work?

No, the pro player ones never have to be listed on Trello. They get fixed immediately

Like the rintrah neutralize being 6 seconds and neutralize chance being 120?

MrSakuragi

Vergeman78 said:

Demonzfyre said:

BeastDad said:

Sounds like a lot of things that are pro player are not working.

Isn't that normally how bugs work?

No, the pro player ones never have to be listed on Trello. They get fixed immediately

There’s nobody at Kabam deciding what’s pro player and not, deciding to prioritize based on that. Take off the tinfoil hat.

ReignkingTW

That second to last one is concerning...

I can't believe there are so many bugs listed!

Demonzfyre

Vergeman78 said:

Demonzfyre said:

BeastDad said:

Sounds like a lot of things that are pro player are not working.

Isn't that normally how bugs work?

No, the pro player ones never have to be listed on Trello. They get fixed immediately

Zemo and Moleman say hi. Seriously, at this point, how can you even type this and think it's still true? It's one of the most debunked myths within the MCOC community. Straight conspiracy at this point.

Midnightfox

If a nerf happens to rintrah I’m done. Day 1 player here but enough is enough.

Kabam Miike

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

Fit_Fun9329

Kabam Miike said:

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

Just for my understanding - when a bug will be stated on the trello board, it’s not yet clear what to do with the bug? Which means it can either be fixed or let it how it is? Don’t know how to feel about that to be honest 😅 it creates a feel of uncertainty

Typhoon

Kabam Miike said:

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

So I think it's great that things are *finally* making it onto the Trello board, but I am also becoming concerned about what else is yet to come. Rintrah has been out for quite a while now and there is a laundry list of bugs here - how long has Kabam known about these bugs before making it to the Trello board?

Are there other champs who are buggy like Rintrah that we have yet to learn about via Trello?

[Deleted User]

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Kabam Miike said:

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

Just for my understanding - when a bug will be stated on the trello board, it’s not yet clear what to do with the bug? Which means it can either be fixed or let it how it is? Don’t know how to feel about that to be honest 😅 it creates a feel of uncertainty

Honestly, I prefer it this way. It's much more transparent than hiding these bugs from the community entirely. As long as they're listed as "Under Investigation" I wouldn't expect any bug to be guaranteed to change.

ahmynuts

Pretty much everything on the trello board points to rintrah being weaker in game than he is supposed to be right? Why is everyone mad that kabam are trying to fix the bugs for us?

AverageDesi

ahmynuts said:

Pretty much everything on the trello board points to rintrah being weaker in game than he is supposed to be right? Why is everyone mad that kabam are trying to fix the bugs for us?

Tbh the neutralize chance and duration are the only thing that matters

BigPoppaCBONE

Typhoon said:

Are there other champs who are buggy like Rintrah that we have yet to learn about via Trello?

Demonzfyre

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Kabam Miike said:

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

Just for my understanding - when a bug will be stated on the trello board, it’s not yet clear what to do with the bug? Which means it can either be fixed or let it how it is? Don’t know how to feel about that to be honest 😅 it creates a feel of uncertainty

So do you want transparency or you don't want it?

Fit_Fun9329

Demonzfyre said:

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Kabam Miike said:

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

Just for my understanding - when a bug will be stated on the trello board, it’s not yet clear what to do with the bug? Which means it can either be fixed or let it how it is? Don’t know how to feel about that to be honest 😅 it creates a feel of uncertainty

So do you want transparency or you don't want it?

Yes I want it, thanks. I just want to now how to classify the information on the trello board for myself. Don’t want to fight ✌🏻

Drago_von_Drago

I think the real concern is whether Rintrah will be up for a “rebalance” after these are all fixed and presumably make him even better.

I definitely want the transparency and think this is a great step in the right direction. We had bugs with Kate, Sentry, and root all fixed in the last update with no real acknowledgment they were even being worked on. This lets people know if something is on Kabam’s radar at least.

Is the Howard armor up bug going to be up there soon?

Fit_Fun9329

AngelMcNugget said:

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Kabam Miike said:

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

Just for my understanding - when a bug will be stated on the trello board, it’s not yet clear what to do with the bug? Which means it can either be fixed or let it how it is? Don’t know how to feel about that to be honest 😅 it creates a feel of uncertainty

Honestly, I prefer it this way. It's much more transparent than hiding these bugs from the community entirely. As long as they're listed as "Under Investigation" I wouldn't expect any bug to be guaranteed to change.

I agree bro ☺️ just want to know how to “read” trello board. Peace

Josh2507

Ashacekar said:

Rintrah Nerf Incoming.

Kabam would prefer the word “balance”

BigPoppaCBONE

I wouldn't want that job, but I hope someone (or a team of someones) has been tasked with verifying all of the timings in the game. That many things being wrong with one champ makes every timing in the game sus. Fixing these en masse would be great.

MR_61088

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Kabam Miike said:

So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.

Just for my understanding - when a bug will be stated on the trello board, it’s not yet clear what to do with the bug? Which means it can either be fixed or let it how it is? Don’t know how to feel about that to be honest 😅 it creates a feel of uncertainty

This is just listed to being safe of a „compensation shitstorm“

Searmenis

I have some questions.

1- Don't you have any other bugs to fix before "improving" older champions? Like, I don't know, PARRY?

2- This is the reason the buff program is paused, because you try to find bugs in older champions?

3- Why CCP never even mentioned even one of those "not working as intended" attributes/abilities/stats?

4- How come you found all these now? Because this is not by chance, you have to say "ok, now it s Rintrah time, let's nitpick the guy" to find bugs that have differences like "5 seconds instead of 6" etc.

5- Why don't you just give every champion 2 two basic attacks and a heavy and be done with it? This constant "rebalance" is getting out of hand.