MCOC game current status

Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
This game has completely became whale out to win.

There is no way you can progress after arcane in bg if you are not spending **** ton of money.

This was ok till game don't had many competitive modes.

Now game completely focus on player against player mode as most of account progress rewards come from it.

So, basically swipe 500~1000 buck every 3 month to stay competitive.

I have stopped AQ, story mode also cut down, Side Quest and Monthly quest have meh reward with very easy difficulty so this month I didn't even explored.

Mostly I play bg and there I am always up against 15 r5 and few r2s with 19k prestige.

Seems like no more fun playing this game.
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  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    Shivacrux said:

    No way to progress after arcane 1, seriously?
    I am already in mysterium 2 with only two r5
    Which are btw came from completely f2p

    Let me know once season end, at which rank you end up.
    Currently climbing till mysterium 2 can be done if matchup favour you for 3-4 matches
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Wow. You and the guys posting about how you need to pay to r5 a champ are some of the most wrong people to pop up on the forums lately

    Why should I not post if I started disliking the game?
    How it makes me "wrong people" ?
  • Demonic_embraceDemonic_embrace Member Posts: 180 ★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Wow. You and the guys posting about how you need to pay to r5 a champ are some of the most wrong people to pop up on the forums lately

    Why should I not post if I started disliking the game?
    How it makes me "wrong people" ?
    Don't listen to him bro, he's not worth the time. He's just bitter cos he knows you're right but he can't admit it.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Wow. You and the guys posting about how you need to pay to r5 a champ are some of the most wrong people to pop up on the forums lately

    Why should I not post if I started disliking the game?
    How it makes me "wrong people" ?
    Don't listen to him bro, he's not worth the time. He's just bitter cos he knows you're right but he can't admit it.
    I mean.. OP is wrong. There's only so many people that can be in the higher tiers. If OP doesn't have the deck or the skills to do it, they don't belong in those tiers.

    Regardless if people spend or not, it's not against the rules to do so. It's a competition.
    That is why I started disliking the game, it started with mostly single player modes and few indirect multiplayer modes and people usually bought some amount to remain on top of game.

    Now, everything shifted toward multiplayer and "purchase to play" multiplayer games I dislike the most.

    Also pay like 100 buck is ok every year / 6 month.
    But dumping 1000 , I don't feel ok with it.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Wow. You and the guys posting about how you need to pay to r5 a champ are some of the most wrong people to pop up on the forums lately

    Why should I not post if I started disliking the game?
    How it makes me "wrong people" ?
    Don't listen to him bro, he's not worth the time. He's just bitter cos he knows you're right but he can't admit it.
    I mean.. OP is wrong. There's only so many people that can be in the higher tiers. If OP doesn't have the deck or the skills to do it, they don't belong in those tiers.

    Regardless if people spend or not, it's not against the rules to do so. It's a competition.
    Yes, only so many people can be on top but those should be by skill and not by whaling out.
  • SagaChampionSagaChampion Member Posts: 1,345 ★★★
    Modders enjoy only the game
  • Manup456Manup456 Member Posts: 891 ★★★★
    edited August 2023
    These are the 3 main things BGs is about to get wins and roster is #1 if not people wouldn’t push to rank certain champs for defense and offense, so roster size and strength is huge part of BGs and it can be bought. Number 3 comes easier if you have #1 already set, so some can use all 3 tools with no problem while most are having to rely on number #2 more than anything this creates a huge imbalance in a pvp mode.

    1 roster
    2 skill
    3 drafting

    PS If you have #1 all set and lack #2 no problem you can make up for that and buy shields lol
  • Maat1985Maat1985 Member Posts: 2,396 ★★★★
    Manup456 said:

    These are the 3 main things BGs is about to get wins and roster is #1 if not people wouldn’t push to rank certain champs for defense and offense, so roster size and strength is huge part of BGs and it can be bought. Number 3 comes easier if you have #1 already set, so some can use all 3 tools with no problem while most are having to rely on number #2 more than anything this creates a huge imbalance in a pvp mode.

    1 roster
    2 skill
    3 drafting

    PS If you have #1 all set and lack #2 no problem you can make up for that and buy shields lol

    No.
    Shields will not get you to climb.
    Only skills will.

    A roster and no skills may get you to a certain point, above those with lower roster and less skills, but then you reach a point where regardless of your roster you are no longer competitive.
  • Manup456Manup456 Member Posts: 891 ★★★★
    edited August 2023
    So you telling me that a majority of the people in GC don’t have staked rosters that were purchased because you can’t get those kinda rosters even completing every piece of content in this game.

    You guys think the people investing big money on stacked rosters don’t have skill? People really trying to reach 😆

    Stacked roster with decent skills and enough shields will get you GC way easier than players with weaker rosters and no shields working with just skill.

    How many people you guys think in GC right now have an average roster and a bunch of skill?
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    BG current state is ,
    Big roster with average skill can help you climb way higher that good skill and average roster.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    Also, only area/mode which gives proper reward and enjoyment is bg, single player modes are dry for very long time.
  • ShivacruxShivacrux Member Posts: 424 ★★★

    Shivacrux said:

    No way to progress after arcane 1, seriously?
    I am already in mysterium 2 with only two r5
    Which are btw came from completely f2p

    Let me know once season end, at which rank you end up.
    Currently climbing till mysterium 2 can be done if matchup favour you for 3-4 matches
    I ended up being q2 and q1 last couple of seasons
    Which is still by the way is better than arcane lol
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    Shivacrux said:

    Shivacrux said:

    No way to progress after arcane 1, seriously?
    I am already in mysterium 2 with only two r5
    Which are btw came from completely f2p

    Let me know once season end, at which rank you end up.
    Currently climbing till mysterium 2 can be done if matchup favour you for 3-4 matches
    I ended up being q2 and q1 last couple of seasons
    Which is still by the way is better than arcane lol
    Q2/Q1 is basically 2/3 more matches worth of win.
  • Ngoalong711Ngoalong711 Member Posts: 314 ★★
    i beat usafa with 3 r5s in my deck. and i'm 100% ftp.
    but i agree with you. bg is no fun for me anymore. using r4 against r2 7 star is too weak against oponents using r2 7 star against r4 defenders
  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Member Posts: 1,550 ★★★★★
    Manup456 said:

    So you telling me that a majority of the people in GC don’t have staked rosters that were purchased because you can’t get those kinda rosters even completing every piece of content in this game.

    You guys think the people investing big money on stacked rosters don’t have skill? People really trying to reach 😆

    Stacked roster with decent skills and enough shields will get you GC way easier than players with weaker rosters and no shields working with just skill.

    How many people you guys think in GC right now have an average roster and a bunch of skill?

    At least 1
  • Josh2507Josh2507 Member Posts: 736 ★★★★
    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.
  • UnOriginalUnOriginal Member Posts: 729 ★★★

    i beat usafa with 3 r5s in my deck. and i'm 100% ftp.
    but i agree with you. bg is no fun for me anymore. using r4 against r2 7 star is too weak against oponents using r2 7 star against r4 defenders

    Wait how?congrats
  • ShivacruxShivacrux Member Posts: 424 ★★★

    Shivacrux said:

    Shivacrux said:

    No way to progress after arcane 1, seriously?
    I am already in mysterium 2 with only two r5
    Which are btw came from completely f2p

    Let me know once season end, at which rank you end up.
    Currently climbing till mysterium 2 can be done if matchup favour you for 3-4 matches
    I ended up being q2 and q1 last couple of seasons
    Which is still by the way is better than arcane lol
    Q2/Q1 is basically 2/3 more matches worth of win.
    A win is a win
  • Ngoalong711Ngoalong711 Member Posts: 314 ★★

    i beat usafa with 3 r5s in my deck. and i'm 100% ftp.
    but i agree with you. bg is no fun for me anymore. using r4 against r2 7 star is too weak against oponents using r2 7 star against r4 defenders

    Wait how?congrats
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe_xxpyoth4&t=3s&ab_channel=TCSchannel
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  • Rudolph_RaindeerRudolph_Raindeer Member Posts: 321 ★★★
    Despite always getting to GC, I undertand OP.

    I started playing MCOC when it was launched back in December 2014. Until recent introduction of BGs, MCOC has not a pvp game, even though AW (and AQ) has been here for a long time. However, now the fundamental of the game has changed, since the best rewards are found in BGS. I really dislike BGS, but I feel I have to play it to stay relatively competetitve. It is not my preferences that have changed. It is the focus of the game. And for the worse, if you ask me...
  • Vegeta9001Vegeta9001 Member Posts: 1,708 ★★★★★
    I have a FTP account with 1 r5 that is relatively new. I got to GC twice, would have this season but I really don't have the motivation.

    Can you compete roster wise with the whales? Not really, can you still beat them in BG? Provided the drafting process doesn't shaft you, absolutely.

    Twice early in the season I had a guy get galan as his first pick, game proceeds to give me pebi Parker in all 4 following selections while conveniently leaving out my 4 top rated unbanned champions. But that's off topic.
  • Omega_RunnerOmega_Runner Member Posts: 143 ★★
    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,865 ★★★★★

    This game has completely became whale out to win.

    There is no way you can progress after arcane in bg if you are not spending **** ton of money.

    This was ok till game don't had many competitive modes.

    Now game completely focus on player against player mode as most of account progress rewards come from it.

    So, basically swipe 500~1000 buck every 3 month to stay competitive.

    I have stopped AQ, story mode also cut down, Side Quest and Monthly quest have meh reward with very easy difficulty so this month I didn't even explored.

    Mostly I play bg and there I am always up against 15 r5 and few r2s with 19k prestige.

    Seems like no more fun playing this game.

    The July 4th deals definitely ruined the games economy but not being able to make it out of arcane is more of a skill issue
  • Josh2507Josh2507 Member Posts: 736 ★★★★

    Josh2507 said:

    You do understand that a competitive game mode is supposed to be... competitive right?

    The whole point is that you wont always win.

    There will be skill caps, and roster caps. And only the best of the best will actually make it to the top.

    You do understand this is a competitive mode right?

    There should not be a roster caps in this and that also when you can basically shop your roster.
    Building your roster over the years is one of the most fundamental parts of this game. If we go with your idea of removing roster caps, then you might as well give everyone every champ. Except no, that wont happen because it makes no sense.
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