Skill champs purifying Apoc's debuffs

Musha27Musha27 Member Posts: 120
Apocalypse reduces purification ability accuracy by -100% so how come Zemo, Jabari Panther, Black cat and other champs with cleanse passives can purify his debuffs? Do cleanse passives have 200% ability accuracy or are they immune to ability accuracy reduction

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  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,985 ★★★★★
    The ability Accuracy check is made when generating the effect.

    Apocalypse can reduce the champions ability to immediately Purify, through abilities like Tenacity.

    He can't reduce the opponents ability to generate a charge of Cleanse.

    The fact that Cleanse happens to subsequently remove debuffs is pure coincidence.
  • Musha27Musha27 Member Posts: 120

    It's weird, but Cleanse passives just don't count as a Purify effect

    I feel like cleanse passives should be explained differently or have more details regarding this tho
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,701 ★★★★★
    By that logic, champs should not recieve damage when Bishop's debuffs were cleansed. Had anyone tried this? (Same with havok debuff charges)
  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,049 ★★★★
    mgj0630 said:

    What @JustWantTheRewards said is accurate.

    Apocalypse reduces purify AAR by 100%, effectively shutting it down.

    Cleanse, while fundamentally does the same thing, is in fact a different mechanic.

    Similar to Stagger vs Neutralize. On the surface, they both prevent buffs, but they're different mechanics, so while one champ may be immune to stagger, a champ that applies neutralize may still work, and vice versa.

    Well that's just great. LOL. How convenient for Kabam.
  • PantherusNZPantherusNZ Member Posts: 2,211 ★★★★★
    Much like Nullify, Fate Seal, and Buff Immunity are not the same thing, despite having effectively the same effect, Cleanse and Purify are not the same thing either.

    It's all complexity that has grown over time as counters to counters to counters grow and enter the contest.
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