Nameless GM Abilities

ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
edited November 2023 in General Discussion
This could change of course.


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  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Rip Juggs 🥲
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Ashacekar said:

    I think you cannot post spoilers directly. Jax tells in livestream that he doesn't like Petyrs who spoil things before livestream. You can use spoiler tag or use urls or indirect references.

    Never seen a post with leaks get taken down before tbh people do it all the time when content gets leaked. If that's true though then I'm glad it's Sunday lol.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,941 ★★★★★
    jesus christ
  • LpooLpoo Member Posts: 2,215 ★★★★★
    This is not confirmed, but I don’t see a special 3? Would it possibly be locked?
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,922 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    Use a champ immune to reverse controls?
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    He looks crazy. Definitely reliable info for now, this guy has been right 100% of the time over the last year. Wonder if they’ll modify anything
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,922 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    Use a champ immune to reverse controls?
    Did you miss the part where you take direct damage if you are immune to reverse control?
    I did miss that actually. Thats....shady to say the least lol.
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,144 ★★★★★
    I liked the part where you try to play a game of Grandmaster says to complete challenges 😂
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,963 ★★★★★
    Lpoo said:

    This is not confirmed, but I don’t see a special 3? Would it possibly be locked?

    I'd imagine it'll still be instant ko
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,011 ★★★★★
    Wait, no random unstoppable abilities?

    Nah, this isn't a kabam thing to do ...
  • Grootman1294Grootman1294 Member Posts: 900 ★★★★
    LordSmasher said:

    The reverse control stuff is just ****. Surely there is enough challenge in the Necropolis without resorting to this cheap mechanic.

    Plus there's the global node as well, so you'll be rooted during his specials and he'll be unblockable later on... Very unkind
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  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,941 ★★★★★
    Magrailothos said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Graves_3 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    Use a champ immune to reverse controls?
    Did you miss the part where you take direct damage if you are immune to reverse control?
    I did miss that actually. Thats....shady to say the least lol.
    Not necessarily, tbh.

    If it's actually taking just 1% health/s then that's probably an acceptable trade-off for the immunity.

    I don't know about you, but I guarantee that I'll be taking a lot more damage than 1% health/s, if I'm actually trying to fight using Reverse Controls 🤷‍♂️.
    if the number is in brackets then it’s a placeholder number @Magrailothos
    even if it is 1% a second you’ll still die before anything gets done
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

    So I assume this fight won't have that stupid node from the Necropolis that will cap your time, right?

    Otherwise it might really be impossible to complete enough tasks till he gets wounded

    I hope so. If these leaks are true then they are indeed trying to make Everest content harder but with less bs mechanics that you can't prevent and are extremely punishing such as the random unstoppable in previous Everest content so yeah I assume he won't have that stupid node with the timer but we'll see. Wouldn't be surprised if he has it too though.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    I would take the reversed controls over unavoidable damage or bs mechanics like Abyss Collector tbh. I'm not saying reversed control are going to be fun cause they definitely won't be (especially the ones on phase four, that's going to be a nightmare) but at least you can counter those with a lot of practice.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Teleus said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    Yes, worst design choice in the game period, just total laziness by the devs - spend years teaching muscle memory and the basic mechanics of the game only for them to destroy it. Reverse controls should never have been part of the game.

    And yeah, I will probably bring an immune champ and suffer the degen and revive.
    If you do that you will probably die before you can even wound him and deal any damage.
  • Milan1405Milan1405 Member Posts: 952 ★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    I would take the reversed controls over unavoidable damage or bs mechanics like Abyss Collector tbh. I'm not saying reversed control are going to be fun cause they definitely won't be (especially the ones on phase four, that's going to be a nightmare) but at least you can counter those with a lot of practice.
    How are you gonna get a lot of practise though, as you have to go through the entire path to get to him, not like we can fight him any other way for testing purposes. I'm thinking aegon could do extremely well against him.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Milan1405 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    I would take the reversed controls over unavoidable damage or bs mechanics like Abyss Collector tbh. I'm not saying reversed control are going to be fun cause they definitely won't be (especially the ones on phase four, that's going to be a nightmare) but at least you can counter those with a lot of practice.
    How are you gonna get a lot of practise though, as you have to go through the entire path to get to him, not like we can fight him any other way for testing purposes. I'm thinking aegon could do extremely well against him.
    My advice, practice with Act 6 GM first. That's what I'm going to do for a couple of months, at least until I can one shot or kill him with zero revives. Currently I can one shot with Juggs easily but since that won't be an option I'll have to first get used to every animation he has with the reversed controls before I even attempt Necropolis GM. I'm sure he won't be as hard if you do this, he'll be hard for sure but not 30k units per run hard.
    Also, while I'm busy doing this, I'm sure top players will start uploading videos with best counters, strategies etc I'll get my r5s and ascensions ready as well as my units and my potions, then I'll go for it.
  • Milan1405Milan1405 Member Posts: 952 ★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Milan1405 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    I would take the reversed controls over unavoidable damage or bs mechanics like Abyss Collector tbh. I'm not saying reversed control are going to be fun cause they definitely won't be (especially the ones on phase four, that's going to be a nightmare) but at least you can counter those with a lot of practice.
    How are you gonna get a lot of practise though, as you have to go through the entire path to get to him, not like we can fight him any other way for testing purposes. I'm thinking aegon could do extremely well against him.
    My advice, practice with Act 6 GM first. That's what I'm going to do for a couple of months, at least until I can one shot or kill him with zero revives. Currently I can one shot with Juggs easily but since that won't be an option I'll have to first get used to every animation he has with the reversed controls before I even attempt Necropolis GM. I'm sure he won't be as hard if you do this, he'll be hard for sure but not 30k units per run hard.
    Also, while I'm busy doing this, I'm sure top players will start uploading videos with best counters, strategies etc I'll get my r5s and ascensions ready as well as my units and my potions, then I'll go for it.
    I can one-shot the act 6 grandmaster but the necropolis boss reads much much harder and I doubt I'll have anywhere near such an easy time on nameless grandmaster. I am fine with the reversed controls as they are constantly on during the timer, but in necropolis it keeps inverting and reverting every single action you take which sounds so much harder. I'm a pretty solid player and was able to explore abyss in about 1000 units worth of revives (I'm no MSD or Swedeah lol but not too bad) and honestly I think Ill spend more on this guy than the collector getting the fight down as I mostly play off muscle memory as opposed to actively thinking about every action which is what will be needed. If I can spend 2-3k units per path I'll be very happy.
  • KeonexKeonex Member Posts: 323 ★★★
    reverse controls going to be annoying
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Milan1405 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Milan1405 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm okay for anything, even unavoidable damage but reverse control? Dang not my cup of tea.
    I hate reverse controls with passion, seems like I never gonna attempt necro if this is true

    I would take the reversed controls over unavoidable damage or bs mechanics like Abyss Collector tbh. I'm not saying reversed control are going to be fun cause they definitely won't be (especially the ones on phase four, that's going to be a nightmare) but at least you can counter those with a lot of practice.
    How are you gonna get a lot of practise though, as you have to go through the entire path to get to him, not like we can fight him any other way for testing purposes. I'm thinking aegon could do extremely well against him.
    My advice, practice with Act 6 GM first. That's what I'm going to do for a couple of months, at least until I can one shot or kill him with zero revives. Currently I can one shot with Juggs easily but since that won't be an option I'll have to first get used to every animation he has with the reversed controls before I even attempt Necropolis GM. I'm sure he won't be as hard if you do this, he'll be hard for sure but not 30k units per run hard.
    Also, while I'm busy doing this, I'm sure top players will start uploading videos with best counters, strategies etc I'll get my r5s and ascensions ready as well as my units and my potions, then I'll go for it.
    I can one-shot the act 6 grandmaster but the necropolis boss reads much much harder and I doubt I'll have anywhere near such an easy time on nameless grandmaster. I am fine with the reversed controls as they are constantly on during the timer, but in necropolis it keeps inverting and reverting every single action you take which sounds so much harder. I'm a pretty solid player and was able to explore abyss in about 1000 units worth of revives (I'm no MSD or Swedeah lol but not too bad) and honestly I think Ill spend more on this guy than the collector getting the fight down as I mostly play off muscle memory as opposed to actively thinking about every action which is what will be needed. If I can spend 2-3k units per path I'll be very happy.
    I think people are just terrified right now because there's a lot of stuff in his kit and the phases look extremely hard on paper but once people go in, practice and get used to the mechanics that fear will go away along with the massive unit spending. Yes, this fight will definitely be harder than Abyss Collector but not because of bs mechanics, it'll be harder because of the amount of skill required.
    Just by reading the abilities you can see that every single one of them can be countered if you're skilled enough and have good muscle memory, there's no random bs unlike Abyss Collector. I think with enough patience and a lot of practice, this fight will be less frustrating and punishing than Abyss Collector for sure.
    And yes, you will have to do multiple runs before actually going in for the kill if you don't want to spend a **** ton of units which is precisely what I plan on doing, even if it takes me four months to do so lol I'm no MSD either but I refuse to spend 10k units on a single run.
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